The Matrix - What is on the minidisc???

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I bought this DVD when the film came out, and every time I watch it, one thing comes to mind.

At the start when he goes the door, what is he Neo selling on a Minidisc type disc that could be worth $2000??????

Some sort of mischevous hacking proggy? Porn? a WinDVD serial? The new Tori Amos album? All of the above?

You decide.... :D

[Bop]

Virtual drugs! (He got them from the unused stock in Strange Days)

[baafie]

Access to the FBI network.

[J. Burnaway]

Bootleg copies of Matrix 2 and 3?

[Hamylde]

Actually .. a lot of "good programms" are worth a lot of money. There could have been a copy of Photoshop & FlashMX,... on there..

The most expensive prog I know of (apart from buying a prog with a lot of licences) would have to be NA's "Sniffer Pro".. I think it cost's like 20.000$

[(Hamylde)]

[rm']

I always got the impression that it was the Bible, for some reason.

[psychoticguyver]

its a pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre release of winamp 3 the movie

[SNYder]

Originally posted by J. Burnaway
Bootleg copies of Matrix 2 and 3? :blah:

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by rm'
I always got the impression that it was the Bible, for some reason. Actually, that question always bugged me too when I see the movie.

The book Neo hides all his MDs in is called Simulation and Simulacra (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0472065211/qid=1032471896/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-7933256-9336057?v=glance&s=books&n=507846). However, I cant quite seem to be arsed enough to open up photoshop and do all that to get the names of the stuff that's in his book.

Perhaps baaf is right in his response. :)

[rm']

The more that I think about it, the more I'm convinced that it's the Bible. Of course, there is no way to confirm my suspicions.

[squell]

i always figured it was drugs, or some kind of information or pirated software or something...

[CremoNe]

maybe in the future where the story is set 2000$ aren't so much money...

[Rocky Raccoon]

Cactuar pr0n

[rm']

According to Morpheus, the present within the Matrix is around 1999, isn't it?

[psychoticguyver]

but is it 1999 after the millenium bug?

[Fickle]

Originally posted by CremoNe
maybe in the future where the story is set 2000$ aren't so much money...

The movie is set in 2199, but where Neo is in that instant is the Matrix, where it's supposedly 1999, meaning 2 grand is a bit of green--too much for it to be the bible, I find. You're probably right, 'rm, but I think it was something fairly trivial, mainly because the guy who bought it didn't act like the directors perspective of a hacker.
When I first saw it, I figured it was a program to hack into some system or another, so the buyer could do something from destroy a computerized security system to delete his name from various government lists, to disappear.

[bluetape2k1]

Winamp 5

or the trilogy of Lord of the rings

[InvisableMan]

playstation 9!!! inhale the spores! teleport yours today!

[Trigear]

it's probably a hacking program or access codes to a high level mainframe. maybe it's something that will allow troy to clear his criminal record?

whatever it is, neo is a master hacker and he's not selling cracked copies of photoshop or britney pr0n, that's for sure.

[whiteflip]

im in full agreement of with the cow man and tri gear. it is deffinately a hacker program. Mr. Anderson needs to make money for his expensive equpment and the group who he sold the disc too obviously does not have the skills to hack. Neo made them a hacking program to crack something. Perhaps a bank to secure funds for their lifestyle.

Brtiney Nudes, Bibles, Winamp 5, Or LOTR Trilogy is not worth 2,000 dollars. A good cracking program is.

Avid cinemas good program is worth 20,000 or so. Most industrial software retails for more than 1,000 dollars a box.

[SNYder]

Ten bucks says I can get the bible at the dollar store.

2000 bucks says it was some hacker/cracker software shit. (note how he says "you get cought using that...")

[rm']

How do we know this is not an alternate reality, where religion is underground? Persecution is a big theme in The Matrix. It makes so much symbolic sense for it to be the Bible. Then again, this movie isn't very symbolic...

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by rm'
How do we know this is not an alternate reality, where religion is underground? Persecution is a big theme in The Matrix. It makes so much symbolic sense for it to be the Bible. Then again, this movie isn't very symbolic... Did you not read my earlier post?! Read the reviews, or even the book and you will see that some portions of the book parallel the Matrix.

[n_ick2000]

I always immagined that it was some sort of illegal computer code/program or something.

[RanDom_ErrOr]

i do believe it is something to crash carnivore... but hey maybe not...

[capitan3]

their was this movie about a guy the used to sell memory from other person, on mini disc. don't remember the name of the movie. Good movie thou.

[whiteflip]

neo is in america and its 1999. the computer model simulation is based on OUR 1999. their is no persecution in our 1999

you cant look beyond the facts. they do not lie.

bibles are free. you can find a church that will give them away.

[rm']

Originally posted by 31337-2k2
Did you not read my earlier post?! Read the reviews, or even the book and you will see that some portions of the book parallel the Matrix.
I did. That's why I said it made so much symbolic sense.

Originally posted by 31337-2k2
you cant look beyond the facts. they do not lie.
I think the point of the movie is that because they do lie, you must look beyond the facts. I don't believe that it's ever specified where Neo lives (although I can be wrong on this), but it's known that Trinity cracked the IRS database a long time ago. That doesn't really mean anything, though, because the hacker world is supposedly international (all the headlines that Neo's program is scanning through in the beginning of the narrative).

[I am Jesus]

Whos' Neo?

[Trigear]

Originally posted by squell
i always figured it was drugs
read "snowcrash" by neal stephenson

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guys, i have a theory that still hasn't been disproven as far as i can tell. i believe that the matrix contains only one giant city, ala the movies "dark city" or "13th floor".

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by I am Jesus
Whos' Neo?

Neo is the digital manifestation of Jesus or New Jesus. You are Neo!?!:igor:

[Xerxes]

Judging by the guy he hands it too, I would imagine its a list of phone numbers, contacts, and invite only parties.

[simon snowflake]

I think its digital psychedelic drugs. I think so because right after it the go to some sort of weird party.

and a simple question added to this.
Why doesn't the minidisk take over the 3,5" disk???
I expected that that would be only a mater of time before that would happen, but it seems it takes longer then i thouht.

[Twilightseer]

A copy of an actually good movie ?

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Rave music.

[binary hero]

Originally posted by triGEAR

guys, i have a theory that still hasn't been disproven as far as i can tell. i believe that the matrix contains only one giant city, ala the movies "dark city" or "13th floor".

i just assumed it was Generic City, USA.

the minidisc has TEH FLAP (http://pixelmagic.dyndns.org/~snipey/flap.htm) homepage on it.

[simon snowflake]

the 13th floor was a good movie :D

[fwgx]

It's clearly Living Dead girl by Rob Zombie that they then start to play in that club in the next scene. I always thought it was a program that he was writing to detect the Matrix. He knew he was onto something and wanted to let others know - for a price. Maybe just some of the evidence he had collected so far. Or it might have been illegal Natzi hardcore music.

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Phily Baby
illegal Natzi hardcore music.

What? "The Sound of Music" soundtrack? :p

Eidielweissssss.....

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Originally posted by simon snowflake
Why doesn't the minidisk take over the 3,5" disk???

The minidisc was actually designed originally as a computer storage device - they can hold about 140MB, which, at the time was bigger than most hard drives. The only problem was that the drives alone cost thousands, and because of this the idea never took off. Recently though, sony have started to add minidisc drives to their laptops, so we could be in for a revival.

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by simon snowflake
Why doesn't the minidisk take over the 3,5" disk???

Yeah it should have. Sony also invented the floppy (or a version of it) and CD Roms with Panasonic. Dont forget Betas and 9mm video tapes. Sony has made a lot of formats. The only universal ones are the ones everyone can get in on cheaply such as CD's and 9mm tapes. Sony so far makes the only decent Minidisk players and not to many companies make minidiscs for cheap.

Minidisc has taken off in Europe though so if drive penetration is going to take place it should start there where a lot of people already have minidisk players. Europeans and their music are insepreable.

Americans favor the cd rom. its bigger holds more is faster and breaks easily. Plus its blue and pretty for burnning purposes :) Americans also love compatibility. CD-R's work in the millions of CD ROM products already out. Kinda like DVD players will play all disc formats almost.

the matrix is my favorite movie

[binary hero]

i have a friend who spent a very large amount of money on a minidisk player, and he doesn't have a cd player...he is trying to find albums on minidisc :)

requiem for a dream is my favourite movie

[rm']

Originally posted by Twilightseer
A copy of an actually good movie ?

:blah:

[simon snowflake]

mini disk is reasonably fast, cheap and can be over written a lot. AND its small.