View Full Version : Why not make OGG streaming standard?

7th May 2003, 12:50
You realize a ~128kbps (or even ~96kbps) streaming ogg would sound ten times better than a 128kbps streaming mp3. There would be hardly any compression artifacts compared to a sloppy sounding 128kbps mp3. OGG is ideal for online broadcasting. You can basically do anything you want with ogg as long as you don't let people pay for it, so why not give it a try?

And to think most radiostations outside of shoutcast use realmedia or WMA for their streams.

Oh well, just a thought, I'm sure countless other people have said the same thing. It should be made a reality though.

7th May 2003, 16:15
Check out the results from a SHOUTcast forum search (http://forums.winamp.com/search.php) on 'stream ogg'.

Note: Other search criteria may yield more results.

7th May 2003, 21:32

2nd post by Tom Pepper.

8th May 2003, 01:44
"In the end, Ogg didn't measure up as our best candidate. We still
think Ogg is a worthwhile codec, and as such SHOUTcast-streamable
support for it is available via NSV."


8th May 2003, 03:40
yea I think they are going AAC Pro which is smaller then OGG i think. At least that's what everyone is buzzing about. 48kbps = CD quality

10th May 2003, 00:40
I'll believe it when I hear it. 64kpbs mp3PRO is supposed to be "cd quality" but it still has compression artifacts all over the place.

Is AAC pro free to use by all? Or does it have royalty fees? This is why OGG is so ideal; its free for all to use -- GREAT for radio stations, one less excuse for the suits to come after them. MP3s for example are not exactly open source.

10th May 2003, 01:41
no, it's not free, but last I heard nullsoft plans on covering the costs of it's users.

10th May 2003, 02:58
Originally posted by KXRM
no, it's not free, but last I heard nullsoft plans on covering the costs of it's users.

By nullsoft, you mean AOL, don't think that'll last very long.

11th May 2003, 05:18
So, would we have to redo (re-encode, I suppose) all of our music to AAC Prp or OGG, or would SHOUTcast encode it on the fly during streaming?


12th May 2003, 10:15
no, probably not.