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White Raven
22nd May 2003, 18:01
After a long time spent at this forum, I may be forced to leave for a while and not post as fequently as I would like to due to circumstances beyond my control.

This morning, I was kicked out of my house by my mother, after a long battle with her, she finally did it, just as I expected. I am writing this from school. I am only fourteen, I can't get a job, I have no money, and just the clothes on my back and even no food. I don't know how I am going to survive, but I am hoping that my boyfriend (He was here on the forums loooooooong before almost any of you) can take me in, but he is due to go into the army July 1st, (He delayed the date from last time) and he says he might run from it, but I really am not sure...

I don't know where I'm going to sleep tonight, what I'm going to eat, or anything, I'm really not sure and my getting kicked out over a report card mark really proves how much I am unloved.

My report card:

Japanese - B+
Science - A
Humanities (Socials and English combined) - C+
Math - (Withdrawn, long story, it's okay now)
CAPP - F
P.E. - I (Improved from F)

I do my math in a resource room and I am doing well. She kicked me out. I can't go back, she hates me...

And yeah, so this is the reason why I may not be able to post as much. I am hoping things will get better because I love it here in the forums. I love posting here, and if I am forced to go I will go on at least at lunch at school and make a few posts so you guys don't forget me, alright? I'll get here as often as I can. I miss you guys already, (And I wanna win MOTM! Haha, I am still here after all! I still will post! Every day!)

Miss you guys and I don't wanna leave,
Alida (That's my real first name)

Mrs_Mia_Wallace
22nd May 2003, 18:13
Hey Raven,

It's shocked me to hear that you got kicked out of your house from your own mother because of GRADES?!?! (What kind of crap is capp anyway) :igor: I don't know about your family situation but I'd think that this would still be alright again becasue it's not really somehting that big of a problem, there's always summer school and I don't know what...but if you really think that you cannot talk to her anymore, I hope that you'll find a place to stay (I'd say you could come over but when having the money for a flight to Switzerland, you wouldn't have to worry ;) ) and that everything will work out the way you want it to...

I hate when I'm not able to give real advice I know me posting her doesn't help much but you can be sure that I hope and wish for you that everything will turn out alright :)

I also hope that you'll be able to continue posting but this wouldn't be my most important wish :)

Take care of yourself,
Mia

PS I really like your real name.
PPS You can PM or e mail me when you want but I know that you have people on the forums that know you and you know them better so this wouldn't help you much, but still by all means do when you need someone!

Raz
22nd May 2003, 18:20
Holy crap, this seems a bit extreme but from your earlier posts i can gather that she was just searching for an excuse to kick you out and she found one. I hope you find a safe place to stay and that you don't get separated from your boyfriend. From the sounds of it i would take many more options before going back home, your mother doesn't exactly sound motherly.

Try not too far relatives if your boyfriend isn't able to take you in. Isn't there some law about kicking your kids out before a certain age? I wouldn't say forums are your biggest worry right now but your prescence will be missed and i hope you can sort things out and be able to come back soon.

cyana
22nd May 2003, 18:24
Dear raven,

ok this is shocking and as Mia I feel I would like to help but am forced to sit here in my safe room .. do you have relatives where you could go ? does it make sense when we - members of the forum - contact your mom ?

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 18:25
Thanks, your kind words do help me. I've been to Scandinavia before, it's nice.

My family situation is like this. (Or the way it should be, according to my mother.)

My whole life revolves around grades.
I am to spend all day doing chores.
I am not to talk to friends unless it has to do with homework.
My mother is always right. Always. Any hint of disagreement will result in a smack, and an hour long lecture.
I am not allowed to eat the bags of chips in the pantry, even though that's the only food in the house. Only my mother and Diane are allowed to eat them, because '90% of the food I consume is junk' Which is not true and she knows it.

Every day, a new argument, over tiny things, like I forgot to put away a cup right after I finished the drink. She hates me always on the net, talking to my boyfriend, and is taking away the net because I am only truly happy when I am talking to my friends and my boyfriend, or writing in my book. (Posting here also makes me happy. :D) But since these things make me happy, I am not allowed to have them anymore. Not even a place to sleep, she doesn't care if I have to become a hobo and live on the fucking street. She doesn't care. I bet she'd come over after work to laugh at me, and wouldn't even throw a penny for me.

I am just really pissed, I want a home, I want a family that loves me, and the only person who does love me I guess is my boyfriend.

it's good to know there's some friendly faces (Or avatars haha) around here.

Oh and thanks Mia, I like my first name too. Hehe, my middle name is Gabrielle.

/edit
About the relatives situation, all of them live far away, except my father who lives on the island too, but waaay up island and besides, he can barely afford to live himself. I can't do that to him. I wouldn't be able to go to the school I love so much, all my relatives live away (E.G. Norway, England, Ontario)
//edit

cyana
22nd May 2003, 18:31
maybe you should talk to your teachers right now ? which country are you living ?

Raz
22nd May 2003, 18:31
Sounds like a typical teenager parents relationship but taken to the next level if you ask me. Still i would get a damned assload of people you know that know damn well that you can't throw out a 14 year old on the street and go harass her. Or at least break some windows :D Either way you need to let her know that she cant just throw out her problems (yes it's her problem) and hope they'll go away. She sounds like she never grew up and can't accept that you have your own life and she needs to wake up.

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 18:39
I've said that I've found she has neglected to mature in many ways, she always talks down to me and treats me like a small child, says that I have 'lots of freedom' simply because she 'trusts' me enough that if I say I am going down to the mall, I'm allowed. That's good.

However I think I could easily best her at many things, and I want nothing more than to prove to her that with all the shit she's done to me, I can still succeed. I guess in some sick sick twisted small way I am kind of happy that I was kicked out because this gives me a chance to prove her wrong.

I am not stupid.
I am not retarded.
I can do things.
I don't need her breathing down my neck and belittling me any chance she gets.

This might actually give me a chance to go and live with my boyfriend, however there are so many complications what with him and the army and all. he's said before that if I ever got kicked out he would come and support me, but I'm just not sure now. That is a LOT to ask of a person. A lot. Also when he has problems of his own, wouldn't I just be a burden? I am still hoping so much that he will come and help me, I need someone like him right now. Someone to love me and also a roof over my head and food on the table so that I can go to school. I wouldn't even mind getting a damn job after school. McDonald's does start hiring at fourteen...

/edit
By the way, I live in Canada.
//edit

Joel
22nd May 2003, 18:47
Be carefull little dudette.
Take care of your self, really hope things get well.
Good luck... be strong little friend :)

Raz
22nd May 2003, 18:47
It can put a lot of strain on a relationship if they are forced to make steps faster than at their own will and could lead to unrepairable damage. I would suggest trying relatives first of all, a job is a good idea whatever age if you ask me, it gives you first hand experience at work and you get money. It can't be your main pririty for now though, first you need to secure a safe place to live.

c2R
22nd May 2003, 18:48
Go and present to social services, say you've been kicked out of the house. In England, you would then get social worker involvment to try and re-integrate you into your family. If that failed, you would eventually be placed in a foster home until such time as you are old enough to look after yourself.

pixiefied
22nd May 2003, 18:49
yep, and they can keep you in the same school too.

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 18:51
Okay, I don't want to be re-integrated, I want out, I suppose. She was looking for a reason to get rid of me and she damn well found it, I guess. Now I am going to have to live with the consequences. *Sigh*

I'm not sure about having a social-worker come see. My mom woud put on her fake plastic smile and make everything seem all peachy-keen until the worker left, then back to hell and re-kickage. I know how my mother works, and from what I can gather she doesn't love me anymore.

It's lunch and I have no food, time to go and beg for some... I'll be back...

Joel
22nd May 2003, 18:51
Originally posted by c2R
Go and present to social services, say you've been kicked out of the house. In England, you would then get social worker involvment to try and re-integrate you into your family. If that failed, you would eventually be placed in a foster home until such time as you are old enough to look after yourself.

It's that true? :eek:
Hope that service come in México,
that will help a lot of kids...

cyana
22nd May 2003, 19:01
Alida, even for grown ups it is damn hard when you are thrown back onto your own, and when I say I understand how you are feeling then it is exactly what it means, cause I've made a similar experience lately. This is not a game, but a quite serious situation. Don't count too much on your boyfriend, in a long termed view partnership only works when they are equal. He can give you love and comfort, but maybe not the other resources you are needing now, or only for a short time. When relatives are no option, you should contact the authorities immediately, either directly or via a person you trust. You are not in an age where you are supposed to live on your own and care for yourself. Maybe some members here are from Canada and can give you advice where to go to. Talking to your favorite teacher also could clear things up. Your mother is acting unbelievable :( and must be made responsible...

Avion
22nd May 2003, 19:43
I know you don't want me to be around anymore and that I am forgotten in your eyes. and I am not the person I once was in your mind and you don't want me to help in any way or something like that but a promise is a promise.
I can send you $350 and maybe even more to help you out.
but the problem is I won't have it untill july.
but it's money I purposly saved for you. so if you don't take it. then the money would probably be used for something not nearly as rewarding.

if things fall abart even more with the people you love...

well, my home is your home.



p.s.
I could even save up to $1000. it would be difficult but it could be done.
I could also give you a $50 to $100 a month while I'm attending college.
to help with the very little money that you would get from McDonalds.

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 21:24
Knightfairy, or Knight of Euphoria, or Theodis, you will always be that man I met on these forums. I still love you, you know, even if I can't be with you. You will always be the same, and I want you around and in my life although I know that things can't be exactly as you want them to be. I'm so sorry for that. I just keep messing things up, don't I?
Please, don't be mad, and I'm glad that you want to help me out, it makes me very happy, even in the emotional state of desolation I am in right now. I do want you around, I want as many people around me as I can get and especially you, so...
I've begun to miss everything already, I want to go home so badly but I just can't... I'm so scared and confused and I don't know what to do or say to anyone.

But I do know this. I do want you around, you are the same wonderful person I met, don't change. Ever.

dlinkwit27
22nd May 2003, 21:32
hey white. If you ever venture south of the border, I'll try to help out the best I can. If you get a perm or semi-permante address, PM me i'll try ti help with what littel money I can find. I hope everythign works out ok

ryan
22nd May 2003, 21:40
Best of luck to you Gabbi, Feel free to PM/Email me if you'd like to talk. Don't forget that everyone here loves you and wishes the best :)

- idiot

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 21:45
Okay, thanks everyone for your kind words. Thank you, thank you, and I really do hope things work out as well, glad to know people here are concerned as well.
*Smiles for the first time today.*

dlinkwit27
22nd May 2003, 21:48
where abouts in canada do you live btw? no specific town is neded, jsut like, north of michigan, north of main, etc.

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 21:50
Well I don't mind telling you the city where I live, since I'll be all around it now.
Victoria, BC, Canada. PM me if you want my old address and stuff too, just in case I manage to get back home to get my stuff or something.

dlinkwit27
22nd May 2003, 21:52
/me whips out yahoo maps....

/edit

oh wow, your way over there on the western side! quite a distance from me.

Smeggle
22nd May 2003, 21:55
sorry to hear of your Probs :( Any advice short term I can give is talk to your teacher immediately. request to see the Head or Principle in your school and explain your situation. Most Schools have councillors these days that deal with this sort of stuff.
I know this may not help but your Mother can't kick you out. She's duty bound by law to ensure your safety and as such is guilty of a number of child abuse charges in this action, not a position she would wish to be in.
that won't help you in the short term though but your Teachers can and are also bound by law to help!
Hope life gets better for you.....

:)

pixiefied
22nd May 2003, 22:05
yep,you can get your mom in serious trouble reporting her. kids suing their parents and disowning them.

White Raven
22nd May 2003, 22:08
I don't wanna be disowned by my mom... I wanna be loved by her... *Cries*

ryan
22nd May 2003, 22:12
Why don't you go home, and tell your mom how you feel.

Bilbo Baggins
22nd May 2003, 22:22
It doesn't matter if your mother puts on a sweet smile for the social services, get them involved. Even better, go to the police. I am sure that there must be laws against kicking a 14 year old out of the shouse.

cyana
22nd May 2003, 22:45
Originally posted by White Raven
I don't wanna be disowned by my mom... I wanna be loved by her... *Cries*
did you ever tell your mom ? ..

Avion
22nd May 2003, 23:28
Originally posted by White Raven
Knightfairy, or Knight of Euphoria, or Theodis, you will always be that man I met on these forums. I still love you, you know, even if I can't be with you. You will always be the same, and I want you around and in my life although I know that things can't be exactly as you want them to be. I'm so sorry for that. I just keep messing things up, don't I?
Please, don't be mad, and I'm glad that you want to help me out, it makes me very happy, even in the emotional state of desolation I am in right now. I do want you around, I want as many people around me as I can get and especially you, so...
I've begun to miss everything already, I want to go home so badly but I just can't... I'm so scared and confused and I don't know what to do or say to anyone.

But I do know this. I do want you around, you are the same wonderful person I met, don't change. Ever.


meow....I mean. thanks for your words.
I don't know why I made a cat sound, like I'm 'A Knight of Euphoria' not a cat but , yeah
I'm really glad that you still feel that way. You just don't know how much
you've rebuilt my heart. To read your words....well, I dunno, it just kicked ass!!!

as much as it hurts to say this...........I do hope things work out with you and your boyfriend,
but a say so with tears : p - that's suppose to be me sticking my tongue out but the bold 'p' looks like
I have mold on my tongue which is definitely not attractive, I asure you, I'm still shexy!

LoL
- sent you an e-mail -
talk to you later.
:D :D :D :D :D
:cool:

BMWboy
23rd May 2003, 02:13
I've got to go with Bilbo here, you need to call the police and/or social services. at worst, you'd be placed with a foster family until you are old enough to live on your own, but you would at least be off the street and have a safe home. at best, social services will force your mother to go to councilling, or take some classes, and this may help her to understand how she has been treating her, and then maybe, over time, you can start to heal your relationship with your mother.

PS-if your mother's mother(e.g. your grandmother) is still alive, I would consider calling her, and explaning your situation, you may not be able to talk any sense into your mother, but I'd be willing to bet if anyone can, it'll be her mother.

ryan
23rd May 2003, 06:46
I hope Gabbi's mom dosen't call the police and say she ran away, she could get sent to a juvenile center for that.

Bizznatch
23rd May 2003, 07:09
seriously, in the USA, this would be considered child negligence, her mom would do time for that, this situation is no different than if her mom chloroform'ed her set her 100+ miles from home and ditched her at the side of the road. This whole thing is fucking bullshit, I am enraged right now, too enraged to say what I actually want to say on this. I'll probably be posting again later on in this thread. :mad:

c2R
23rd May 2003, 07:41
Originally posted by Bizznatch
seriously, in the USA, this would be considered child negligence, her mom would do time for that, this situation is no different than if her mom chloroform'ed her set her 100+ miles from home and ditched her at the side of the road. This whole thing is fucking bullshit, I am enraged right now, too enraged to say what I actually want to say on this. I'll probably be posting again later on in this thread. :mad:


No, it's not negligence, or neglect - yes, if the child is younger than about 12 this is the case, but children from 12-17 are rightly treated differently. However, they still aren't allowed to kick you out of the house. Add to this that the state simply doesn't have the resources to care for all the children which have had arguments with their parents. However, the social services usually are able to re-integrate a child with a family - and for the most part the social workers aren't fooled by sweet smiles and lies - cases like this usually go for family centre involvment to help with parenting. It is possible, but very rare that the child is placed in a foster home - there simply aren't the available spaces. And you really don't want to live in one, anyway.

J_Bloggs
23rd May 2003, 08:01
Hey White Raven.

I guess there really isn't much I can do to help from here, except listen and hope things get better.
Whatever happens, when things settle down, I encourage you to get a small part time job. So long as it's not to stressful it can only help.

I hope things get better soon,
Paul.

Bizznatch
23rd May 2003, 08:05
Originally posted by c2R
No, it's not negligence, or neglect - yes, if the child is younger than about 12 this is the case, but children from 12-17 are rightly treated differently.

I dont know, but I beleive in California at least, I think it applies to anyone under 16, when I was in high school one of my friends had a similar situation where her stepfather kicked her out of her house and he ended up having to do 2 years worth of jail time, I dont know if anything else went on, all I know is the end result. She ended up having to move about 200 miles north from here to live with her aunt and uncle, I was so sad, but I was happy for her in the end.

But whatever her mom did, she is pathetic, she is the worst example of a mother one can possibly be. I hope she fuckin reads this. This is very sad and extremely fucked up. How the fuck can a person give birth to someone, someone who is supposed to be special to them, throw them away so fucking easily? I cannot fathom the fact that there are parents that actually do this to their children. Some people in this world are never meant to be parents, there is no fucking excuse for this.

White Raven's mother needs a fucking boot in her ass. A parent is supposed to help their children in times of trouble like these, not make matters worse. I can only feel sorry for White Raven and all the drama she has been put through because of the stupidity and blindness of her mother. I hope she one day looks back at these times and regrets it, because something like this is unforgivable.

- Patrick

Vie
23rd May 2003, 11:36
Report her to the police, that will give her a shock.

what it looks like that woman needs is sombody to point out that your not some baby to be ordered around, and your not some adult who can cope with a situation like this.

mc^^^^
23rd May 2003, 13:41
imo, if things are as ugly and sad as they are, i don't want to be the bringer of shit news, but better you know than don't. remember, i could be way off the mark when i say this, but if your mum really does feel that way, things will most likely not change by coincidence, they need a reason to change, a reason your mum can see. i rekon you should go to your your house when you know no-one will be there, break in, and take all your belongings. if your mum thinks you are gone for good, she may open her eyes and see what she has done.

also, find a teacher you can feel safe with and trust, stay after class and tell them the story, they may be able to help you more than anyone on the forums.

thinking of you and hoping for the best :)

aie93
24th May 2003, 23:17
CPUKiller just gave me the news and the link, so here i am. I think that all that needs to be said has been. And as a ViralSound mod to another I'd just like to say I hope it all works out. I don't particualy know if there is anything else that needs to be said, but I thought I should post to show you have my support too.

EnDurA
24th May 2003, 23:38
as already stated, suthorities are a good option, are any relatives available? father, aunt, uncle, grandmother/father to turn to? you've obviously been treated like shit and if it were me, it be time for some revenge.

i hope your life will improve soon, you've been a great asset to these forums.

RavenWolf
25th May 2003, 05:28
Dear Raven

I hope everything will be ok, and hopefully you will get a part-time job.
Maybe you could go house to house cutting peoples lawns or something. I wish I could help out:( If you wanna talk or need anything just e-mail me or PM me:)
I will try to help in anyway I can:)


Best Wishes,
Tara

P.S. I hope maybe one of your friends mom will let you sleep over for maybe a night... boy, that would be great:rolleyes: Good luck!:)

Kinetik*
25th May 2003, 05:35
Come down to North Carolina, USA, A little town called Eden and I'll give you a place to stay if it comes to that. :up: