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23rd June 2003, 21:16
I'll be working on milkdrop for a bit now... so bring on the suggestions!
24th June 2003, 07:37
Ryan, has there been any progress in the Hardware blitting on nVidia based gfx cards?
I have read your conversation with chris81, and have posted a reply (no one answered) is there any hope for gf4ti users? and getting hw blitting?
Milkdrop is THE best vis out there... but i have a few feature request..
instead of a set waveform shape or position in a preset perhaps it could use a random one? or perhaps you could use a "library of effects" and combine the "effects", in any amount, contained within the "library" randomly, to create the final result? i.e. lets say these are "effects" in a "library": squigly, bob-n-weave, blobsucker, egg (ya gotta have egg), floodocolour and flyby-splash. it could combine em randomly such as it could combine bob-n-weave, egg, and flyby-splash for one "preset" while floodocolour and squigly could be comined to form another... I hope this is making sence because its about the best i can explain it.
if ya cant pull that then jes include more presets :D
I am sure i am not alone when i say this... Milkdrop, simply put, ROCKS, and we appreciate the work put into it. i install ONE vis with winamp... Milkdrop is it. nothing else comes close... Tripex is good as is rabid hamster but... milkdrop is still WORLDS better
anyways, thats my 2 cents :)
24th June 2003, 10:47
I'll be updating the wishlist in the next few days.
Gotta dash atm
24th June 2003, 16:49
Milkdrop is great, but there are two things I'd really love to see it do.
1) Text-entry mode.
Like your favorite online game, hit T or something to enter 'text entry' mode. Type a message, then either hit ESC to clear and cancel text-entry mode, or ENTER to display the text on top of the vis. Easier for custom messages than editing the INI file (and probably stopping or minimizing milkdrop to do it) and reloading.
2) Display in the Winamp video window.
If it's feasible to display Milkdrop in the Winamp video window instead of its own window, it would be possible to have a playlist of MP3's (with milkdrop vis) interleaved with video files (without milkdrop). When switching from a video to an mp3, the last video frame could transition out via Milkdrop, too.
I know I'd sure like to be able to have a playlist of music videos when possible, and at least something to look at if MP3, without disrupting the 'flow' of the pretty graphics.
Also other minor things, appended as a last-minute thought:
- Better on-top. The Windows start bar and systray icons show up flickering underneath a fullscreen Milkdrop if it doesn't change the video mode. Distracting!
- A 'console' for multi-monitor setups. Do the milkdrop keyboard functions on another monitor without displaying debug text and things on top of the visualizations.
24th June 2003, 19:16
OK this seems like a free for all here with requests.
A libary of random waveforms.
I honestly don't see how that will work with the currenet setup of MD.
I agree that more waveforms are needed or thinking more logically about it awaveform editor but I cannot see how these can be 'random'. even random in teh current setup oof teh 8 waveforms I do not know how it will work. AS all the presets require said waveforms to function correctly. This may work for Geiss and Geiss II but I cannpot see how it can be effective in MD.
I imagine teh next verision with be with the latest sdk therfore mkultiplae options for refresh rate that will sort /minimize the 'flicker' problem
COnsole for multi-monitor ???? Try VJ mode.
Text entry. Try VJ mode again with teh message editor from my website it really isn't all that more effort then entering text 'on the fly'
25th June 2003, 05:38
thats not exactly as i had in mind... i actually had 2 requests
1: "Instead of a set waveform shape or position in a preset perhaps it could use a random one?"
2: "Perhaps you could use a "library of effects" and combine the "effects", in any amount, contained within the "library" randomly, to create the final result? i.e. lets say these are "effects" in a "library": squigly, bob-n-weave, blobsucker, egg (ya gotta have egg), floodocolour and flyby-splash. it could combine em randomly such as it could combine bob-n-weave, egg, and flyby-splash for one "preset" while floodocolour and squigly could be comined to form another... I hope this is making sence because its about the best i can explain it."
appearently i could have indeed explained it better :) im jes so thrilled as my actually being the 1st person to post any reply to as the next features of milkdrop :)
25th June 2003, 12:59
Ok. I hadn't tried VJ mode, and it's basically what I was after, except that you can't type in arbitrary text. Editing milk_msg.ini, reloading, and then 00 is a bit klunky, but it should do fine..
I don't think the problem with the flicker is due to the refresh rate.. It might have something to do with the window's z order or something else. It shows up perfectly if the display mode changes at all when milkdrop starts.
What about displaying Milkdrop in the Winamp video window? *That* would be great, for playlists including mp3s and videos.
25th June 2003, 15:40
I would like to see some more VJ options also!
Especially this one.
"- Have scripted/detailed timing of the pop-ups. So we can pre-program what and when they come up. "
Glad to see you working on it again! :)
25th June 2003, 16:16
All these VJ's so few creating content. :);)
This update I think will be for the negleted authors. :)
Already being converted to DirectX8 and Ryan's vis sdk (like monkey, smoke, etc) as we speak. 1.04 is underway. :)
26th June 2003, 01:09
Rating (0-5) showing in the filelisting
maybe a litte preview of what it looks like
28th June 2003, 16:05
geiss, let's , make milkdrop the way you wanted it to be. SM
28th June 2003, 16:39
hope you can make all the wishes of everyone Geiss. I will be eternally grateful if you can. you are the only one that can. SM
29th June 2003, 04:25
Please make milkdrop cross-platform. I would love to be able to run milkdrop on linux.
2nd July 2003, 19:12
Its been mentioned before, but I would definitely like a more graceful handling of dynamic text sprites. Right now I have a script that updates a weather sprite and song detail sprite for G-Force. For those who don't know, G-force is another visualization engine. One of its features is to define certain files as being dynamic sprites. Those sprites are never cached by G-Force, so any changes made to them are automatically reflected in its visuals.
If I could port my scripts to MilkDrop, that would make me a happy man. Right now, its a bit clumsy to have my script update the text in question and simulate a key-click to reload all sprites.
Hope i'm making sense....
5th July 2003, 11:13
My most desired additions:
- Screensaver option (even using overlays like windowed mode would do)
- Hot-swap between display modes (window/fullscreen/desktop)
- Have the text size in windowed mode vary with the window
- be able to have per_frame->per_pixel passable variables (q1-q8) custom named. Let's say, anything starting with a q will be passed?
(q_beat, q_dx,... )
And another thought:
- A flag in presets (eg: genre) that would make presets with this flag favourable to the genre of music being played. eg: a preset could be defined at 'soft', 'rock', 'techno'. Or perhaps a combination.
"That'll do pig, that'll do" - Babe
5th July 2003, 12:24
Oh, and please, please, increase the number of user variables available. I just used all of them up in a recent preset!
16th July 2003, 13:47
I would love to see some random options added to the sprites, such as:
-- Have sprites selected randomly from a directory
-- Being able to designate a range of sprite presets to run randomly
With these options you would be able to set it up to run sprite options 10-35 using the sprite graphics in directory X. I suppose you'd also want a variable for how frequently the sprite would appear.
Obviously, the sprites are already a very cool feature. It would be nice if you didn't have to micro-manage their appearance.
Thanks for all your hard work Ryan!
21st July 2003, 04:18
Let the number of samples for custom waveforms be specified in the per-frame.
22nd July 2003, 14:14
I'd love to see Linux support (even better if it's FreeBSD, but I can't be too picky).
Other than that, just keep up the good work. I'm sure it'll be great!
22nd July 2003, 17:00
26th July 2003, 14:58
My only real request at this point is to throw my hat in and second (third, fourth?) the request for an instantaneous text mode. Lately I have either been using the laptop (which doesn't have enough oomp to push two displays while running milkdrop), or bringing the desktop and projector without the 80lb monitor so VJ mode is out. I would love to be able to just throw up some messages or shoutouts from the crowd.
5th November 2003, 21:17
What I'd like to see in Milkdrop (since I now use it 10x more than G-Force) is scripting. I think it'd be cool to have scripting similar to G-Force, such as having a time entry, starting at when the script starts, like:
0:00 Preset name
0:45 another preset name
1:00 yet another preset name
so you can program your list of configs/presets.
1st December 2003, 04:36
Only complaint i have is about the split sec pause between visualizations when you manually tell it to change (looks like program hangs for like 1/8th of a sec. other than that, it is THE PERFECT visual plugin.
10th December 2003, 15:50
hey there i have a request... let me explain my problem
in church we use milkdrop for the visualisation and on top of it we show the text of the songs. now I put the text in a graphic (i.e. text.jpg) and i load that with the sprite picture ini file. in the ini i set the text.jpg not to move and to make the pic transparent; the black background dissapears and the visualisation appears; so what you have is the text on the foreground and on the background the visualisation... a nice look... but a lot of work; because for every song a new picture has to be made and the problem is that the vj-er either needs to watch over the text and to watch for the visualisation...
now a possibility is that the picture can be edited by another person who's connected to the computer with a laptop trough a network... that person can edit the picture so the vj-er doesn't need to do that... the problem is that the graphics are loaded in a cache so when the pic on the harddisk changes, the pic on the screen doesn't change... could an 'auto refresh' be an option..? it seems to me that wouldn't be hard to program... a simple refresh of 1 time per second...
an other option is to have more sprite option; next to jpg it would be very cool if you could also load .avi, .mpg, etc. but also .swf (macromedia flash). It would be the best solution for me personnaly to be able to overlay a flash file in the plugin; there are really a lot of possibilities... if it would be possible to have the plugin on the background and to have a transparent .swf running on the foreground, that would be cool; animated text or pictures within the swf on the foreground, while running the plugin on the background... not all posibilities of the .swf can be used in de plug in; you can make textfields ready to be filled in with flash, but i think that it's hard to actually fill in a textarea of the swf as it's ran in the plugin... but the animated part would be nice...
a .swf can be programmed to show text animated and to read the text fromout a .txt file. That way the .swf layout changes as soon as the .txt is being changed. Now, if animation.swf is reading song.txt all the time and prints the text on the screen, and a second computer edits song.txt; then the text within animation.swf changes. If this animation.swf is loaded transparent on the foreground of de plug-in, the vj-er can only be working on the visuals, while someone else is working on the texts that appear and dissapear.
Hopefully you understood my explanation, my english is not the world's best. I don't know if there are more people who would like to see this happen, maybe i'm the only one interested in such thing.
I'll see what comes from it
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