Civilization II, III, TOT, SMAC

[Cylob]

Couldn't locate a CIV thread, so I thought I'd do the necessary (games section without CIV)?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

[Merlin]

"Sneak attack by Japanese forces!"

Bastards. How dare you violate our peace treaty and attack my poorly defended yet valuable remote outpost that's within easy reach of your capital? I was about to do that to you.

"Treacherous Romans!..."
Treacherous? I avoided war with your enemy and you're calling me treacherous?

What I'm trying to say is, the AI in Civ2 could have used a little more forethought. Then the enemy might not have sent wave after wave of inferior troops to attack my well-defended border cities at the Suez canal. Etc.

Alpha Centauri could have used a few more tribes to choose from, and done without the silly special attributes thinger - i.e., made the enemy tribes random. Having every tribe do the same thing every time made it less fun. Besides that, there was only one good tribe, the morganites. Everyone else was pathetic or had terrible manifestos, especially the peacekeepers. And what was with the University's remarkably phallic cities?
I used to employ huge teams of formers to clear land and sea fungus. Was it that there was less chance of the mind worms appearing if you did that? There must have been a reason...

[Cylob]

I love a nice predictable AI. Let them send waves of inferior troops right into my most heavilly defended regions - there's a feel-good factor in sending 10's of stealth fighters to attack 3 dragoons and a musketeer.

For me, the thing that ruined Civ2 was the end-game (or lack of it). Having built-up 200 howitzers it was rather easy sweeping all!

My strategy:
Build cities as quickly as possible (up to 65 or so). Lay down roads, irrigation (each city producing 2 setters for this purpose). Improvements built in the following order: Granary, temple, marketplace, etc etc, every city to build 3 caravans (or freight) as soon as it's marketplace is built. Stay out of trouble until 200 howitzers are amassed (and glinting in the sunlight). As for the ocean, have battleships and aegis cruisers occupy the same squares at all times. Carriers are really for prestige.

Wonders:
Great Library, Magellans Expedition, Michaelangelos Chapel, Leonardo's Workshop, UN (change to Communism).

Haven't played CIV for a year, but I'll always be shit-hot. I like SMAC alot too, but the changing sea-levels and fungus are a constant irritance.

Great how you can dload these games from Kazaa!!! I did it just to be able to play them without the discs.:)

[Merlin]

I do pretty much exactly that, but sometimes edit the rules.txt file to stop the library and Leonardo's workshop from ever expiring. :D

[Cylob]

You cheater you!!! Is there no sanctity?????? :)

[Merlin]

Well you know how it is. You built the Great Wall, and you're happily defending the Roman empire against relentless suicide attacks by the French, when some Egyptian clown decides to discover metallurgy, so all your cities are suddenly without walls and in march the French. So you edit rules.txt so that nothing causes the Wall to expire. :D

[Magic_Midget]

Does it work for Civ3?

I loved Civ2 cuz i could cheat but on the new one they deactivated them. Nothing like having built 50 nukes and obliterating each and every town, by doing so, u also caused the ozone layer to collapse and make the world a complete wasteland and then u blast off in ur uber cool spaceship.

[Cylob]

LOL!!!! I used to play TOT with a mate on hotseat. I made sure there was plenty of global warming. 'The global swamp'.

Sorry about your farmland, dude.

[dylman]

I've edited Civ3 so that the pathetic Germans have been replaced by the mighty Welsh. My Welsh Panzer divisions have destroyed England twice in the last week alone... :)

Never played Civ or CivII, I got the bug late on.

[Cylob]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Welsh Panzer Divisions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh the pain!!!!! That's the funniest thing I've heard all year!!!

:D :D :D :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[dylman]

You wouldn't laugh if you were on the receiving end.


;)

[Cylob]

I would....... A brigade of Welsh Panzers are spotted in the valley. The English troops fall over themselves laughing. The panzers advance, this brings on more laughter. Everyone's doubled-over. Finally, the panzers fire and kill the troops who descend up to heaven - still laughing like fuck!!!!! One GI who escaped had to be committed to an asylum, he never could stop laughing.

[Merlin]

Arcane: Don't know if it works for Civ3, haven't got the game. Check the Civ3 folder for a file called rules.txt, if it exists just open it, the instructions are all there.

The Welsh? putting up a fight? :blah:

;)

[Cylob]

Originally posted by Merlin
The Welsh? putting up a fight? :blah:

I've been laughing for 19 hours. Will it break into a 20th???

[mikm]

One way I found to use the Cheat menu was to make the changes and save it as a scenario. Then, there is no cheating penalty :p
(I also modified rules.txt alot to suit my needs)

One thing I saw the egyptians do a lot was nuke a city then ask for a peace treaty. I said no, but my damn Congress voted me down.

Another tactic I used was the turn before the end of the gain, I would put my luxury taxes to 100% to boost my score.

Sometimes, to have some fun, I made tons of Barbarian nukes near enemy cities.

A bug I found was a way to get unlimited range for air units-
When an air unit has one move left, press w so you can let all your other units move. Once you are back to that unit, press ctrl+alt+n to end the turn. The plane won't crash! (at least in my version- Gold Multiplayer Edition)

[Cylob]

I despise cheating!!!!!! I need to know I've kicked the AI's ass fair and square. Just so I can sleep at night.

I tell you what's really sad, when you go to bed at 2.00am and all you can see when you close your eyes is the Civ map. Instead of the usual hot chicks, you think about launching a surpirse attack on the Celts?!?!?!?

I'd still like to play against Hitler & Stalin.

[Merlin]

True that. I don't save a game if I've cheated on it. Hell, if I did that, I couldn't have 100%'ed Vice City. I don't use Civ2's cheat menu, there's no point in it.

There's a file you can edit to change the names of the other civ leaders (and the civ names, etc.) to whatever you want; Hitler, Pol Pot, Thatcher... fill the world with evil dictators! ;)

[Cylob]

Thatcher!!!!!!!!!
HE HE HE!!!

'There's no such thing as society'.

[mikm]

Oh...I forgot about SMAC. I have the expansion too, although it was hard to find (off Ebay). It has a bunch of new tribes, and allows a random selection mode. It also has a faction editor. While you can edit the factions without it, it makes it a lot easier and safegaurds against crashes. Heh...I edited the university so it had uber-technology and envirornment powers. Then I smashed all the other civs. One thing that is kind of annyoing with the expansion is that the Hunter-Seeker algorithim can be bypassed, which exploits the Universities horrible espionage capabilities.

[Mr_007]

Like this games!

[Cylob]

I presume you play the Persians (as I play the English)??