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Pilot_51
31st July 2003, 08:40
Does anyone know of or is working on software like nsvscsrc, but more user friendly like nsvcap? And would it be possible to stream files other than nsv? I just want to stream some videos on shoutcast with the ease of streaming my webcam, the current way is way too complicated. :hang:

Jay
31st July 2003, 09:09
I am, but my first version will be for *nix because there is a greater need, a windows application will probably follow.

you can see the result of my work by viewing my stream [XRM] - TV in the Winamp Library or in my sig below. I got alot of the file format down, just need to add some touch ups and release. :)

Viberadio
31st July 2003, 12:04
Well I have a full production master control room for TV and converted video to nsv and now have over 300gigs. now what do I do? kxrm.

I have nsvtools and it comes with the nsvcap "it does pick up the .nsv files please explain how to past them on my server.

regards
maurice

Viberadio
31st July 2003, 12:07
oops typo "nsvcap does NOT pick up the nsv files"

Sawg
31st July 2003, 20:59
NSVcap is for live caopture only. If pre-encoded NSV files you need to use NSVSCSRC. Currently there is no tool to mix live and pre-encoded NSV into a stream.

Pilot_51
31st July 2003, 21:34
I have some .wmv files that need converted to .nsv and set up for streaming, if neccessary I can get the .mov version.

Does anyone know of a really good tutorial for a video file stream newbie like me? Just post the most easy/reliable tutorial you know. I can handle a lot of 'geek' talk but I'm lost using most of these NSV programs without a help file.

DJHotIce
1st August 2003, 00:38
well some other software to use (on a huge production scale)
http://www.videotoaster.com by http://www.newtek.com (we use that where I work)
and also :D

http://www.adobe.com makes a program called premier its a cool editor, if I had the money though, I would pick Videotoaster, think it costs 3 gran though, but it even has a windowsmedia video streamer app allready made :D

check out newteks videotoaster 3 its pretty dang cool! and its nick name is "TV Studio in a box" so it may be perfect for live nullsoft streaming, however how to inport the output of the videotoaster to a live stream is indeed the question ;)

Viberadio
1st August 2003, 01:55
ok, Sawg but how do I send the nsv file to the server??? People are doing it but nobody answers the question. Please help.

thanks

Viberadio
1st August 2003, 01:57
Please explain the nsvscrsc.

Jay
1st August 2003, 03:21
all ya got to do is encode a bunch of videos at the same compression settings, you can use NSVate (which is a great batch tool by the way)

then place all the videos into a single directory

now make a headers.txt file for the stream similarly to the NSVenc method then issue the command from the nsvenc directory

nsvscsrc localhost:8001:headers.txt C:\videodir\

(NOTE: this assumes that your shoutcast server is at localhost:8000)
and it should start streaming the videos.

Viberadio
1st August 2003, 09:27
Great, thank you. One more question, nsvate does want to encode some avi I have cause says can't find the audio to the video hmmm???

do you know about that?

thanks

Jay
1st August 2003, 13:27
I would assume that NSVate has the same limitations as NSVenc. So if you can't encode it there, then you need to convert it to something it can read, I convert all my video to DV before encoding.

della
1st August 2003, 22:32
oi,

seems a lot of people are interested in that vid format, shame its
missing a lot of features still like a bit of descent timing,
better error corection (bla bla bla, I prolly missed the rfc? hihi..)

anyway,
found the webplugin having a lil memleak (NSVplayX / 0.996) on my win2k/dx9. (about 8 to 12 KB/s at 80 kbps vid / 64 kbps lame audio)
while testing my LiveChunk thinghy.

dunno who to send the msg to but the creator of that plugin would be fine i guess :)

If, and if wished for, I might post the LiveChunk url in time, its
just a win32 app to stream to multiple servers at the same time in multiple bitrates, from a livesource only (ment for DJ's, not for
copying files).

baaah :) *Flossie ie waiting :)*

Jeeper One
4th August 2003, 07:01
Originally posted by KXRM
[B]all ya got to do is encode a bunch of videos at the same compression settings, you can use NSVate (which is a great batch tool by the way)

then place all the videos into a single directory

now make a headers.txt file for the stream similarly to the NSVenc method then issue the command from the nsvenc directory.I sure wish this process could be simplified via NSVCap....

Jeeper One

Jay
4th August 2003, 10:09
Originally posted by Jeeper One
I sure wish this process could be simplified via NSVCap....

Jeeper One :confused: not sure what you are trying to say? NSVcap is for live video/audio, this guy wanted to use static files.

KingKoz
4th August 2003, 16:44
I think he is trying to say that he (myself included) would like a GUI version of nsvscsrc that is easy to use like NSVCap.

Sawg
4th August 2003, 20:14
nsvscsrc works fine for me from the command line, no need for a GUI version. If you have a problem using command line tools then maybe you should wait until NSV comes out of Beta.

Jay
4th August 2003, 22:38
I concur, this tool is far to simple to be in a GUI.

KingKoz
5th August 2003, 03:28
I never said I had a problem using the CLI version, I was simply clarifying what I thought he was trying to say. I realize NSV tools are in beta.....but isn't it also the job of the beta testers to not only offer bug reports but make suggestions as to the features of the software they are testing? I would like to see a GUI version of nsvscsrc but I can also use the cli version until some smart programmer comes up with a GUI version.

ZeosPantera
5th August 2003, 07:13
Ok First you get a prog called Camtasia studio..or any other software that will capture audio and video right off the desktop. Then all you have to do is set it to capture the actuall video off the screen(Overlay Off) and it will appear as a capture source. I recomend playing the video in winamp and capturing @ 320x240. this system works well because theres no converting needed and any file you can play in winamp will be instantly captured and streamed... Its Kinda a Cheap cheaters work around.. But man does it beat reencoding files

Jay
5th August 2003, 08:31
did you really need to reply to 4 different threads with this?

ZeosPantera
6th August 2003, 00:02
Im tired of everyone always asking me to explain it.. so now i just send them to a forum-- any forum.. for the answer. people just piss me off

Jeeper One
6th August 2003, 05:22
Hi everyone:Originally posted by KXRM
:confused: not sure what you are trying to say? NSVcap is for live video/audio, this guy wanted to use static files. I want to be able to play NSV files for my TV station like I do with MP3 files for my radio station. If that's considered "static", then I hope this clears up your confusion. :)

Cheers for now :)

Jeeper One