50 Cent Or Eminem

[eminemfan]

Who Do You Think Is The Hotest, Beter Dancer, Best Rapper etc...

[Mr Jones]

Beethoven :p

[taylormemer]

Good MrJones, Beethove rules, I have all his symphonies hehe.

As for rap yer well I hate it so I think its crap!

[Twilightseer]

I heard a track by 50Cent, it was lame.
Still, I say none.

[Cylob]

Which one would I prefer to shoot??? Tough choice really. Can I pick both?

[ShyShy]

Voted for none. In all honesty though, if someone else made me listen to either I'd have to pick Eminem. 50 Cent remains on my shit list for that stupid ass song of his "In Da Club".

[Shenlong]

I can't deside who's the better rapper, so let's do it like the Romans; Pit them in a Gladiator fight against each other with no armor for defense, but a steak knife as a weapon. As a distraction to the fight between each other, we can release 2 tigers into the ring, which will visciously rip their limbs apart and kill them both instantly, if they can't use a steak knife to kill them first...

Bets are now open... :p

[Namelessv1]

Shouldn't "NONE of them" be "NEITHER of them?"

I'm not much of a rap fan anymore, but Eminem seems to be the better lyricist. 50 Cent sounds like he's mumbling.

[godoncrack]

Shenlong, if everybody thought like you......this would be a better fucking world

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Cylob
Which one would I prefer to shoot??? Tough choice really. Can I pick both?

Yes. Statistical eventuality would dictate that both will eventually send their respective posses of "homies" to "cap" the other, so that their close associate rap "musicians" can then write insincere songs that commemorate each of their deaths.

Why IS it Rap "musicians" are so obsessed with writing rhyming poetry about Killing- they love describing how wonderful their gun is, how good they are at shooting it, how many "NIGGAZ" they can shoot etc etc.

Then some "homie" actually "caps" another rap "musician" and the whole rap community acts extremely surprised. And on the local news, it is required that some rap "musician" is shown saying that "MC _______ was my 'homie", This is the Day the Music Died" - COMPLETELY ignorant that there already was a day the music died, when Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and the Big Bopper were killed in a plane crash.

FYI Rap "musicians", The music did not die when Tupac was shot, when the Notorious B.I.G. was shot, or when Alliyahh cratered. Number 1, that event already happened. Number 2, the music cannot die when no real musicians are "capped".

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
Beethoven :p

That's my line.

[taylormemer]

Looks like he took it from ya. hehe.

[Merlin]

50; his vocals flow in a way that Marshall's dont. How hot they are and their ability to dance doesn't bother me...

[ryan]

Jurassic 5 > * :)

[oNaMiSsIo]

Originally posted by eminemfan
Who Do You Think Is The Hotest, Beter Dancer, Best Rapper etc...

why is it that only one of those criteria relate to thier being musicians? and, anyway, ive never seen either dance at all, i dont think they do. (unless you count the swwaying back and forth, to which i say this. (http://www.godfatherofsoul.com/index.html))

[Ghoti]

Neither.

[DragonSon]

Honestly, I hate the both of them.

[music_man_mpc]

OK, most of you are being WAYYY to hard on hip-hop. Remember that there are a LOT of hip-hop artists you have never heard before. Personally I'm neither here nor there as far as Eminem and 50 Cent go, but they are inferior mainstream hip-hop. Some of you hip-hop bashers out there should try listening to some of my choices:

Buck 65
MC Paul Barman
Cunninlynguists
Anti-pop Consortium
Public Enemy
RJD2
or even old Eminem (I mean pre-"My Name Is" stuff) his "Off The Wall" album is really quite good.

[taylormemer]

Well if its hiphop then i hate it, why because i think its boring, my tastes are only towards Metal, rock, punk and dance.

[music_man_mpc]

Originally posted by taylormemer
Well if its hiphop then i hate it, why because i think its boring, my tastes are only towards Metal, rock, punk and dance.

I used to feel exactly the same way. You'll grow out of that phase eventually.

edit: except for dance, I used to hate dance too.

[taylormemer]

I will NEVER leave metal or rock...........!

[music_man_mpc]

Originally posted by taylormemer
I will NEVER leave metal or rock...........!

Good!! I didn't.:p I still love metal and punk and rock. I just now also love: soft rock, oldies, classical, jazz, electronic, avante guard, ambient, idm, world music (Cuban, Indian, African etc.), celtic, drum'n'bass, experimental, progressive, folk, hip-hop, blues, etc.

edit: you are allowed to like more than four types of music.:)

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by music_man_mpc
You'll grow out of that phase eventually.


I assure you that I would grow into a phase where I deem Hip Hip an actual legitimate artform right as soon as pigs are flying around a frozen hell.

[music_man_mpc]

Originally posted by Xerxes
I assure you that I would grow into a phase where I deem Hip Hip an actual legitimate artform right as soon as pigs are flying around a frozen hell.

Have you ever actually listened to underground hip-hop?? Or any of the hip-hop artists I mentioned? Its almost a completely different style of music altogether. Buck 65's work is far more like poetry with a beat than it is like traditional hip-hop. Anti-pop Consortium are on the same label as Aphex Twin, so they are REALLY comparable to Eminem :weird: . MC Paul Barman is jewish, so you can be SURE all his lyrics are about drugs and hoes . . . . . http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/html/emoticons/huh.gif

All I'm trying to say is that there is a lot of music outside of the MTV world and you cannot (or at least should not) make such sweeping judgements about a type of music soley based on what the mainstream version of it sounds like.

Oh and BTW I wasn't necessarily talking about a growing out of not liking hip-hop I was talking about growing out of the phase where you ONLY like metal, punk and rock, which are all excellent styles of music, don't get me wrong! There is just a LOT more stuff out there worth listening to.

[mikm]

Neither. Not a big fan of rap. I prefer older musicians (the Doors, the Byrds, Simon and Garfunkle, U2, Bob Dylan) with lyrics that actually meant something.

[Shenlong]

Mainstream rap or underground hip-hop, I just don't care much for it in general. Sure, I like people like Jurassic 5, the Nextmen, and Dub Pistols, but that's only 3 out of 7, which total in only a mere 10 songs that I've found myself to grow on. Those 10 songs barely even break a full 1% in total of all my playlist songs...

But that's just it; I don't care. I don't like the music, therefore I don't really listen to it from barely to at all. Just because there's a small group of underground artists that sway in a different way than their mainstreamer counterparts doesn't mean that I might like them more. I'm not even gonna give them a chance, because I don't...Forget it...My point is made. I like my music, other's have theirs. But everyone also has an opinion, whether it's a shiney respective one or not...

Besides, you havn't had the time to understand Xerxes taste in music, or his general personality first of all, so don't bother on the hip-hop part... ;)

[music_man_mpc]

Originally posted by Shenlong
Just because there's a small group of underground artists that sway in a different way than their mainstreamer counterparts doesn't mean that I might like them more.

I agree totally. I just thought it might not be fair if the people bashing hip-hop when many many of them haven't heard the best of it. Same goes for jazz, classical , folk, blues and many many others.

There are some bad and some good artists in all of these genres. In hip-hop the bad ones are just more popular than the good ones, IMO. :)

[Xerxes]

I highly disagree- the mainstream representitives of a genre are theoretically the most fit portions of that genre, since they are what the largest amount of people choose to consume.

Andy Warhol once argued that Good Art is what Sells- I argue that a synonym for "Underground" is "Commercially Unsuccessful as of Today" I feel entirely justified and correct when judging underground acts by listening to commercially successful a.k.a mainstream representitives.(You immediatly can identify a hipster when mainstream is a derogative term) I judge crooning music by the Gold Standards of Sinatra and Martin. I judge jazz by the commercially successful Davis, Armstrong, and Fitzgerald. These are the people that sold, they are the most successful.

But it is the post 60's. Now music people automatically discount what sells. Because they are so into their intellectual anti-establishment conciet "Punk/Thug" that they condition themselves not to enjoy it. The difference between Punks and Thugs (Rapper Punks) however, is when Thugs make money, they flaunt it and buy sparkly earings, and sing about their high status and how many expensive things they can buy and eat. Conversely, the Punk that makes money sees all his punk fans leave him because he has caved in the man. The Punk cannot wear sparkly earings nor sing about his possessions because it further alienates his anti-establishment fanbase- who's essence of being - the Punk Conciet, requires them to not "feel" like they are contributing the Machine. (Even if they are)

[music_man_mpc]

Originally posted by Xerxes
I highly disagree- the mainstream representitives of a genre are theoretically the most fit portions of that genre, since they are what the largest amount of people choose to consume.

I guess you have never heard of social engineering then? Plus this is a clear fallacy: appeal to authority.

Originally posted by Xerxes
But it is the post 60's. Now music people automatically discount what sells. Because they are so into their intellectual anti-establishment conciet "Punk/Thug" that they condition themselves not to enjoy it. The difference between Punks and Thugs (Rapper Punks) however, is when Thugs make money, they flaunt it and buy sparkly earings, and sing about their high status and how many expensive things they can buy and eat. Conversely, the Punk that makes money sees all his punk fans leave him because he has caved in the man. The Punk cannot wear sparkly earings nor sing about his possessions because it further alienates his anti-establishment fanbase- who's essence of being - the Punk Conciet, requires them to not "feel" like they are contributing the Machine. (Even if they are)

What relavence does this have, whatsoever?

All I'm trying to say is that, I think everyone should try to have an open mind about all musical styles. Not everything from any genre is bad. It wasn't very long ago when I hated hip-hop in all of its encarnations. Just give the less popular stuff a chance and I'll be more than happy. Oh and BTW if you don't like a particular style of music it is your opinion, nothing more.

[Merlin]

I've been musically open minded for years.

[richardharris]

Eminem and the best female singer of the moment: Thalia ;) I love her:up:

[zootm]

jurassic 5!

[Mr_007]

My vote is none!