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Magic_Midget
1st December 2003, 16:46
Thought I never create another thread....
Just wondering what's everyone's opinion is on the new era of interracial dating and marriage. It's a new rise in the northern parts of USA. But not yet recognized in some parts of the South. Currently, I'm residing in Alabama, capital of all things bizarre and upside down. According to major sites out there, a black man dating a white woman is way up now compared to a white man dating black woman. Asian man dating white woman is way up also. But vice-versa...kinda down.
In some states including Alabama, you cannot marry in some of the major churches. Southern Baptists are dominant in the region and damn they got some strong ethics. Hell they won't allow Victoria Secret pageants to be televised. And yet the ten commandments stuff going with the Supreme Court of AL is still a mess. You got both religious and political sides neck and neck over the issue. Back on topic, right now I'm dating a wonderful white female and I'm asian. I get some curious looks when I goto the mall or somewhere public. Some of them stare, but I keep to myself. I mean why do people act the way they do when something is out of context, and they say something or stare uncontrollably. Kinda makes us feel uneasy about our surrounding, like we're not wanted in their presence.
I talked to my stepfather last weekend about it, he believes that races should not mix and that they should be the same. Those who don't follow that principle are gonna get media/or publicly 'blasted'. So my family doesn't think it's right to do what I'm doing. But this day and age, our generation we're gonna intermix more than previous generations.
Enough talk for me now....now it's you guys turn.
~Lee
Vie
1st December 2003, 17:10
Lets say I marry sombody of African or asian decent.
Over here in the UK, there would be no real problem in the south, north might get some of the local yobs to piss about with some BNP propoganda... ..pricks.
Over in the US, in the big cities or most of the North, there would be a lower chance of problems than in the southern states. (Judging by the things I've heard)
Strange...
..some people are racist morons at times, and it only takes a moment of Press trying to boost there ratings using the "Race Card" to stir up trouble.
Loveless
1st December 2003, 17:17
Enh, I think it all boils down to people. Personally, I have serious misgivings about anyone open minded enough to marry outside their own ethnicity but who still wishes to belong to one of the prohibitive churches you mentioned.
Take my family for example. We're white. One of my cousin's (my whole family is made up of cousins - very few brothers and sisters except at the grandparent level) daughters has a black child and remains unmarried. None of us really care, and even to the old folks, well sure it was a scandal, but they'd break their own right arm to help the kid out. The unmarried bit is more scandelous to them than the racial side.
Part of it's the heritage I'm sure. Southern Oklahoma stock tends to make you put a little question mark on the end of the statement "I'm white" :p
Bazman63
1st December 2003, 17:20
The sooner we're all khaki coloured, the better.
ShyShy
1st December 2003, 17:28
I'm the product of an interracial marriage, and sometimes it's not easy. Kinda helped growing in the military where it's more common place. So, for someone to tell me I need to stick to my own ethnicity for dating/marriage (which I've been told before) is pretty damn hilarious.
My family's awesome about stuff like that, I think we've got most continents covered now :D
The funniest thing though, is when I was with my ex. My daughter's biological father was if Irish descent(read: extremely pale child, lol) and my ex was latino. Just think of the stares we got :blah:
Loveless
1st December 2003, 17:28
Someone should invent an inplant with a little LCD control panel that lets you pick your theme...err wait a sec. Too much WA5. :p
@ ShyShy
How awful! Least you've got your sense of humor. :) Does little Shy catcha lot of that crap? :(
!!Anita-elf!!
1st December 2003, 17:46
Deep inside I am against interracial marriages .... but never say never...right ..;)
NJK
1st December 2003, 17:50
it's not the color - it's the person
don''t look at the outside it's just the box wrapped around the personality.
ShyShy
1st December 2003, 17:57
Originally posted by Loveless
@ ShyShy
How awful! Least you've got your sense of humor. :) Does little Shy catcha lot of that crap? :(
Heh, the rugrat doesn't sense the stares, she's not quite four yet and doesn't understand or realise things like this. Besides, the child's vain, lol, when people do stare, she thinks it's because they think she's cute :D
Magic_Midget
1st December 2003, 18:09
Yes, but some people just do not see it that way. You're a different color, that color has a long heritage going down. Plus the stereotypes surrounding color infect our minds. Its hard enough trying to fit into humanity without getting scorned at. It's just the old slave states that can't accept any type of interracial dating/marriage. But in time they will accept
Bazman63
1st December 2003, 18:27
I am truly astounded that this is still being considered as a debatable issue.
I havn't heard this question or some of the responses to it for more than 20 years.
How can anyone deny love,(or lust), on the grounds of race/skin colour. It's absurd.
My family are Irish, (Celts are honoury Arians, you know, Hitler said so), My son is half scandinavian, my nephew and nieces, half Arab, I have cousins who are half West Indian, my girlfriend is Colombian. Being Latin I suppose makes her a different race to me, so I should dump her.Right?.
I have dated/lived with with Scandinavians, Isrealis, Arabs, Korean, Japenese and a a girl from New Zealand. (OK, that was a mistake).
If anyone can truly believe that there is such a fundamental difference in human beings becuase of race that two people of different races should not live together or produce children, then surely that logic would indicate that social segregation and all that that implies is not just acceptable but is, in fact, actually desirous.
I looked at he poll a few moments ago and it stood at 50/50. I am genuinely horrofied that anyone of average intelligence would express or advocate racial purity as a legitimate sentiment in the 21st centuary.
I am saddened.:(
ScorLibran
1st December 2003, 19:29
Should "interracial mixing be allowed"? It's already allowed, so there is no "should" involved. And thank goodness. When I look at people I don't see color...only character. If I were restricted to only dating within my race, then that would be a pretty damn small pool to choose from.
Let's see...my heritage is Swedish, German, Irish, Scottish and Native American. Finding a woman that is exactly the same racial mix as me? That could take years!
Women of all races are goddesses, every one. And men and women shouldn't be filed by "race" anyway, because it masks the limitless potential that every person has to offer in this world.
I've been with women who were Hispanic, Polish, German, French, Russian, Korean, African-American, Argentinian, Jamaican, Vietnamese, ...and a few that were caucasian (American with very mixed heritage). Oh, and one from North Dakota...is that a different race?
:p
WomanOfHeart
1st December 2003, 19:37
As I write, the poll stands at two people voting "no". Personally, I look at a persons character, not the color of their skin! My maternal grandfather was a cowardly, KKK sheet-wearing racist. Luckily, my mother turned out the complete opposite of him! I wasn't raised to dislike people just because they didn't have the same skin color or beliefs that I did.
Raz
1st December 2003, 19:43
I don't hate people because of their race.
I hate people because they hate people because of their race.
All i need to say on the matter.
godoncrack
1st December 2003, 21:26
One, its all pink in the middle.
thats the only color i care about 90% of the time
Two, HELL NO DIFFERENT RACES SHOULD NOT CONCIEVE
Beastiality is just wrong, not to mention impratical for rearing offspring.
And i seriously doubt that my dog could fuddle my house cat and have little baby puppins running around the house.
Just say no to beastiality.
on a serious note, here on the coast, peoples of all color date and marry and divorce all the time.
Above the bottom six counties, you may run into turbulence.
And remember people, we are all apart of the HUMAN race.
ive seen many different colored dogs, yet each is a dog.
Just with different features.
but its still a dog and still tastes like chicken.
k_rock923
1st December 2003, 21:58
nothing wrong with it to me. why can't we just let people marry/date who they want to so long as its not in their own family. Let everyone else worry about themselves. If it bothers you then don't do it but please don't critcize/praise people based on an interracial relationship
Fickle
2nd December 2003, 00:57
I'm a white guy from the East Coast of New Jersey. I've dated a couple of asian girls and a latino. I've never dated a black girl/woman, but it wouldn't bother me. I'm with Raz on this one. I get more pissed off when people hate on others for stupid reasons like color or religion or sexuality.
whiteflip
2nd December 2003, 03:24
Filipino/Irish/German/Chek/Chinese/Spanish
I'll stick to my race hehe :) White guys dating Asian girls is very common (at least in Seattle area) and is not looked down upon. In fact I think its viewed even more as a PC thing or whatever than White girls and Asian guys.
I didn't know there were Asian people in Alabama Arcane. Seems kinda odd to me.
s1138
2nd December 2003, 04:20
i could care less who people date and marry. as for me, its all about the person. though certain characteristics of specific races dont appeal to m, both physical and having to do with personality.
i forgot my point. but yeah...it doesnt matter, if you love the person, that is all that should matter.
Internet God
2nd December 2003, 05:51
khaki colored is better than any color Bazman63.
marvinbarcelona
2nd December 2003, 06:30
There hasn't been a pure race on the Earth for thousands of years, if ever, so this is a strange debate to be having. If you live or come from Europe then you're a mixture of English, French, German, Scandinavian and Italian etc. Interestingly, if you are a dark haired Italian....you're also alittle bit Moorish ie Arab/African.
If you're from The US, you're all the above....and more.
There was a documentary on BBC a year or so ago that took people from Britian back to the Caribbean. Not all were black, some were white and wanted to find out what their grandparents, great grandparents did over there. One, very white, woman got the shock of her life when they found out her grandfather was as black as the ace of spades.
So, we're all interacial.....so lets just get on with it, eh?
apola_anamisha
2nd December 2003, 06:38
I know a girl from India who went to USA for higher study, stayed there for 4-5 years and naturally fall in love with a white-guy from USA.
But she couldn’t marry him.......... because she couldn’t. She couldn’t forget he responsibilities towards her parents. If she would have married him what would happen to them? They live in the society after all. What would happen to her younger sisters?She has no rightsto spoil their futures........... All these made her forget her love & she came back to her country & married someone from there.
It’s a true story. I’m telling it because I don’t think the main question interracial marriage or dating is color difference. There are differences in living style, mentality, and culture. I’m not using the word “hate”. Even that guy did visit her home with her during holidays and he was warmly welcomed as her friend but nothing more. So its not that these people hate him . They can take them as a friend of her daughter but they can’t even think of anything more. It’s their personal morality .Its just like a girl from a respectable Indian family just can’t afford to marry a foreign guy.Its just their personal sentiments. If she would marry that guy what would her parents do? They wouldn’t hate them. But they would never take it happily and things would never be normal again.
Don't get me wrong.I’m not discouraging interracial dating or marriage but I only want to say that color is not the main factor. What ‘bout these differences of living style, morality and personal sentiments between two person who want to live together but actually they are corresponding two different culture and society?
Be practical, is love alone enough to to face all these ?
Loveless
2nd December 2003, 08:09
Pray tell, if love isn't then what (at the individual level) is?
And being practical is good advice. I think (I hope) you'll find though that if you ever have a true, loving relationship, most definitions of practical will uphold that relationship.
ScorLibran
2nd December 2003, 08:49
Originally posted by apola_anamisha
I know a girl from India who went to USA for higher study, stayed there for 4-5 years and naturally fall in love with a white-guy from USA.
But she couldn’t marry him.......... because she couldn’t. She couldn’t forget he responsibilities towards her parents. If she would have married him what would happen to them? They live in the society after all. What would happen to her younger sisters?She has no rightsto spoil their futures........... All these made her forget her love & she came back to her country & married someone from there.
It’s a true story. I’m telling it because I don’t think the main question interracial marriage or dating is color difference. There are differences in living style, mentality, and culture. I’m not using the word “hate”. Even that guy did visit her home with her during holidays and he was warmly welcomed as her friend but nothing more. So its not that these people hate him . They can take them as a friend of her daughter but they can’t even think of anything more. It’s their personal morality .Its just like a girl from a respectable Indian family just can’t afford to marry a foreign guy.Its just their personal sentiments. If she would marry that guy what would her parents do? They wouldn’t hate them. But they would never take it happily and things would never be normal again.
Don't get me wrong.I’m not discouraging interracial dating or marriage but I only want to say that color is not the main factor. What ‘bout these differences of living style, morality and personal sentiments between two person who want to live together but actually they are corresponding two different culture and society?
Be practical, is love alone enough to to face all these ?
Please don't think I am saying this to be argumentative, but it's a simple and honest observation. This story is a very effective example of an entire culture rationalizing and utilizing racism (http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/r/r0007100.html).
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rac·ism (n.)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
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There is not much uncertainty about the definition of the word, so an essential question may be: "Does an entire culture utilizing racism in any capacity justify the concept of racism?" I know it's hard to expect her to sacrifice her reputation or to hurt her family image, but whose fault would that be...really? Hers? It would more likely be her fault if she propogates and continues the racism that has likely endured for many generations. Her quiet "obedience" is the very reason why there is still racism there. Because her parents, and their parents, gave their quiet obedience as well.
It's a dilemma. Do you ask her to hurt herself and her family by disobeying their culture? Or do you ask her to propagate racism by obeying it?
The solution would take a social revolution, one with casualties of reputation to be sure, but to live in a world society of acceptance and tolerance, it has to be considered worth the sacrifice at some point. Oppression must be surpassed, and racism is a very cruel form of oppression because you cannot escape your race. A whole culture using racism is effectively using "blanket oppression".
ertmann|CPH
2nd December 2003, 11:35
sure.....
I have a weaknes for halfbreeds actually, my ex was half Canadian half Danish, my current girlfriend, is half French (of the ummmm so nice southern breed) and half Danish...
:)
Germ
2nd December 2003, 17:25
I'm a cracker
Magic_Midget
2nd December 2003, 18:34
It's just the views on other people in this subject matter. Something inside when they see an interracial couple makes them tick and ask questions within. Hell, I thought America was a melting pot for all civilizations so we can intermix. Anyway, read in the newspaper this morning and they had a recent survey on interracial couples in Montgomery, AL; so far there has been a 30% increase. The biggest church supports interracial marriage and their United Methodist. But on the other side of town lies the Southern Baptists who believe we should stand with our own race.
Hopefully the once Confederate capital release the ban on interracial marriages in AL once and for all.
~Lee
ertmann|CPH
2nd December 2003, 18:59
Originally posted by [Arcane]
But on the other side of town lies the Southern Baptists who believe we should stand with our own race.
WTF? isn't that illigal? :weird:
ScorLibran
2nd December 2003, 19:50
Originally posted by ertmann|CPH
WTF? isn't that illigal? :weird:
If it were the government, yes, but it's a church, so they can adopt all the incorrect moralities they want to. Then again, in the South the line between church and state gets quite blurry.
:confused:
horse-fly
2nd December 2003, 20:45
what is race anyways? is it just the color of your skin, or the shape of your eyes, or any other physical attribute???
who cares what race people are
cyu
2nd December 2003, 21:40
I think I might be marrying someone outside of my race since I have been living in the US the majority of my life so far. So no, I am not against interracial dating and/or marriage. :)
Huehuetenango
3rd December 2003, 17:37
i have no problem with it at all
unfortunately, a few years ago i liked an indian girl, but her parents were dead set against her dating anyone else, so sadly, since we were both only 15 or so, nothing came of it
my older brother is currently, and has been for about 2 years, dating an asian girl
amazingly nice girl, everyone in my family likes her
me, i'm dating a welsh girl, i'm half irish/half scottish, if we had kids they would be so bloody white it wouldn't even be funny
my first girlfriend was an asian girl
i just ran into her again, and right now she's dating a black guy
so yeah, i have no problem at all w/ interracial dating/marriage/having kids that way
hell, some of the most beautiful girls i've ever met have been mixes
Widdykats
3rd December 2003, 17:57
This is Uncle Nicky! He is the product of a white cat and a black cat mating! Isn't he handsome?
http://www.persian-cats.com/gallery/ben2.jpg :D
Widdykats
3rd December 2003, 18:02
This is Lenny Kravitz! He is the offspring of a white parent and a black parent! Isn't he handsome?
http://www.poster.net/kravitz-lenny/kravitz-lenny-piercing-4000923.jpg :D
Raz
3rd December 2003, 18:06
Originally posted by apola_anamisha
I know a girl from India who went to USA for higher study, stayed there for 4-5 years and naturally fall in love with a white-guy from USA.
But she couldn’t marry him.......... because she couldn’t. She couldn’t forget he responsibilities towards her parents. If she would have married him what would happen to them? They live in the society after all. What would happen to her younger sisters?She has no rightsto spoil their futures........... All these made her forget her love & she came back to her country & married someone from there.
It’s a true story. I’m telling it because I don’t think the main question interracial marriage or dating is color difference. There are differences in living style, mentality, and culture. I’m not using the word “hate”. Even that guy did visit her home with her during holidays and he was warmly welcomed as her friend but nothing more. So its not that these people hate him . They can take them as a friend of her daughter but they can’t even think of anything more. It’s their personal morality .Its just like a girl from a respectable Indian family just can’t afford to marry a foreign guy.Its just their personal sentiments. If she would marry that guy what would her parents do? They wouldn’t hate them. But they would never take it happily and things would never be normal again.
Don't get me wrong.I’m not discouraging interracial dating or marriage but I only want to say that color is not the main factor. What ‘bout these differences of living style, morality and personal sentiments between two person who want to live together but actually they are corresponding two different culture and society?
Be practical, is love alone enough to to face all these ? If a whole race thought like that, i wouldn't like that race. That would mean i would be against a race. But this is because of how they think, not because they are that race. But to be part of that race, would be to think like that.
Am i racist?
Fortunately we know that people are different and although they may conform, it is because they have no other choice. However if the majority actually do think like that they can stick their culture right up their ass.
cyu
3rd December 2003, 23:36
This is Kristen Kreuk! She is a mix of Dutch and Chinese. Isn't she beautiful?
http://dawnzone.crosswinds.net/svl/gallery/lana/big/kristen53.jpg
k_rock923
3rd December 2003, 23:48
Originally posted by Widdykats
This is Lenny Kravitz! He is the offspring of a white parent and a black parent! Isn't he handsome?:D
Lenny is awesome!
whiteflip
4th December 2003, 07:57
@widdy LOL
@cyu SHIZZAM!
first time i saw her i was like well, SHIZZAM! Good thing for canadian broadcasting :)
product of two parents with different skin characteristics
http://www.screensavershot.com/music/akeys.jpg
where do i start?
http://www.koogiegolf.com/tigerwoods/woods44.jpg
Widdykats
4th December 2003, 13:03
This is Lisa Bonet...She is Lenny's Ex and Lenny..in reverse!!! Isn't she beautiful?
http://img.actressarchives.com/lisab/lisab036.jpg :D
White Raven
20th January 2004, 04:36
If what other people are doing in bed offends you... You had better pry that house off your sister, grab your ruby slippers and get the hell out of Oz.
This is the 21st century, people.
Get over it.
Me?
British, Canadian, Irish, Scottish, South Indian, one Japanese woman, a Chinese guy way the hell back when, and... Other people.
I'm mixed.
Who cares?
DragonSon
20th January 2004, 04:40
I sure as hell don't.
Starbucks
20th January 2004, 06:53
I have a question. Who voted no and why???
I date white women all the time. What happens when "white" is more and more difficult to define?
iomegajaz
20th January 2004, 07:47
What happens when "white" is more and more difficult to define?
I think that the type of person of whom you're asking that question, would object to dating/marrying another person of even slightly muddied lineage, and would require hard evidence of their prospective partner's heritage before proceeding.
Not that they'd put it like that...
Ga-hyuk, yer purdy, yessir. You proper whitefolk? *toothless leer*
Spazz333
20th January 2004, 08:32
Originally posted by ScorLibran
Oh, and one from North Dakota...is that a different race?
:p
Depends what you mean by different race :)
Many many people seem to think that North Dakota is a province of good ole Canada.
Mike H.
20th January 2004, 15:46
To continue Widdy's trend...
This is Jessica Alba! She is a mix of Mexican, French, and Danish! Isn't she gorgeous?
http://jessica-alba.org/002.jpg
Most of us are the product of interracial marriage somewhere in our family trees, so to be against it would be hypocritical.
Widdykats
20th January 2004, 16:07
This is "Uncle Nicky's" son, Rascal! Isn't he handsome?:D
http://www.sequimjournal.com/pfoa/animalfrd1.jpg
whiteflip
21st January 2004, 23:28
Not hypocritcal. No one ever said you couldn't hate yourself. As Shapel pointed on the Shapel show. The bit about the blind black man thinking he was the leader of the KKK.
hgnis
22nd January 2004, 17:59
Me be a hound dog with Asian, Portugese, Black, Latin and other things. It's not so much what's in the blood as what the eyes look like. :)
Originally posted by whiteflip
As Shapel pointed on the Shapel show. The bit about the blind black man thinking he was the leader of the KKK.
hahah.....funny shit. After he found out he was black, he divorced his wife for loving him.
Widdykats
22nd January 2004, 18:06
This is Halle Berry...This is for teh guys!
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Halle%20Berry.jpg :D ( A little of this, a little of that!)
DragonSon
22nd January 2004, 18:07
HOT!!
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