The Passion

[hgnis]

Well it is supposed to be anti-semetic. I don't see how it can be this way if it was about a Jew's life. o.0
Anyone seen/ going to see and willing to save me $7.50? (I suspect I can drop the woman off...:D)

[marvinbarcelona]

Well, I'm going to see it.....well, my be not 'go' and see it. I'll wait until its available on the old net. I ain't putting money in the pocket of some relgious nutter.

[hgnis]

hmm....thought about it and I don't see how Mad Max could be a nutter. I mean this is William Wallace we are talking about here, the guy that singlehandedly defeated the English empire in not one but 2 centuries (The Patriot :D).

[LollipopLustKil]

I'm going to go and see it, just to find out what all the fuss is about, plus it does actually seem like a pretty good movie.

[zootm]

Originally posted by hgnis
I mean this is William Wallace we are talking about here, the guy that singlehandedly defeated the English empire in not one but 2 centuries (The Patriot :D).
:blah: same film, different time, yes. neither one based in historical fact, either, but that's another thread entirely.

i may go see it at some point, but i'm not confident it'll be any good. i'm not going in the opening weekend or anything, as some religious crazies were trying to make it the largest opening weekend of any film or something, and someone has to balance them out :)

[LollipopLustKil]

The Passion of Christ is based on historical fact.

[marvinbarcelona]

Originally posted by LollipopLustKil
The Passion of Christ is based on historical fact.

No, no its not. Its based on a book written by many people, about a man who, may or may not have existed. This same book is filled with inconsistances and myths.

It is not a factual film, its biography of a, reputed, real person. If you assert it is fact than please present your facts, otherwise, it is your faith that he lived etc, but not a fact.

[LollipopLustKil]

OK, historical was a bad word to use.

I do believe he was alive, but the myths of what he did and that sort of thing, is fake.

[Fickle]

I will watch it eventually. I think all the bad hype it's getting is because people love to gripe about shit that they can't control.

[xzxzzx]

I just can't see getting so exited and irrational about a movie.

I figure it's a publicity stunt. I guess it worked, because I want to see it to see what all the fuss is about.

[Mrs_Mia_Wallace]

Originally posted by xzxzzx
I just can't see getting so exited and irrational about a movie.

I figure it's a publicity stunt. I guess it worked, because I want to see it to see what all the fuss is about. Exactly, I would never go and seen it if it wasn't for all the controversy around it. Now I'm waiting for it to come out over here - whic hwill still take a while but I can wait.

Mia:)

[Raz]

The film is based on a well known story. Disputing whether the film should be refered to differently in the name of political correctness is futile.

[Magic_Midget]

I'm going to go see it because I heard it's real good, and it's graphical and I'm gonna see it when there is hardly anyone around so I wont have to listen to anyone screaming or crying their eyes out or cursing the jews. Best time to go is midnight if your theatres allow it.

[godoncrack]

I found it to be a very powerful artifact.
I remember my short stint in Vacation Bible School when i was 5 and hearing the story of Jesus.
And yawning.
Now the story of the self-made martyr comes to life and hits you low, between the balls.
To see these things and relate to them is important. To know what your prophet did for you.
Although I'm not suggesting everyone go out and start making religous movies, it would be refreshing to see the pain of Mohammad, or the enlightenment of Nirvana.

[BBnet3000]

i got it off the internet and watched it a few days after it hit theaters (came out on wednesday i watched it over the weekend after), i dont think its anti-semetic

[godoncrack]

And now you go to hell.
don't think god didn't see that one.

[Mrs_Mia_Wallace]

Well, this is what I have posted at another forum about the anti-semiticness:

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Well, I now have found out why they think of it to be anti-semitic in case anyone cares:

In the movie it is displayed as if the Jews went to the Romans and told them to kill and torture Jesus and throughout the movie they watch him suffer and let others work for them.

Now this is, according to even Christian historical scientists, wrong - the Jews at that time would have never the authority and power to command the Romans to do such a thing. True, there were fellow Jews that didn't like or even hated Jesus but they were not the ones that gave the order to kill him.

Since the movie displays this in another way that is not approved by any historical scientists I can see that there are people offended by it, not only because it might be anti-semitic but also because it protrays things wrong.

--disclaimer: Of course this whole argument makes no sense if you do not believe in Jesus existance at all so the historical thing would make no sense of course but this is not the point of the argument, since it's a religious one, you have to think in their terms ---

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Mia:)

[Joel]

In my opinion I think that the movies is great.
Mel Gibson owns this one. I've saw many movies about Jesus
and I think this one could be the one after a long time.

Many people say that reflects the real thing, the real story; even the pope say it, right?

Congrats! to the production, they made a great job! :up:

[godoncrack]

in the movie, the jews did not command the romans to kill him
they just made it very difficult for him to say no
same difference but still...

[hgnis]

I still fail to see what was so anti-semetic about it. The actions of a few men cannot be representative of an entire race.

[Mrs_Mia_Wallace]

I do not agree with it either but since the argument of "the Jews [seen as one entire race not as individuals in this statement] have killed Jesus" was always one of the top arguments of anti-semitism I understand that this movie that - apprently historically incorrect - shows exactly this, might lead to faer among some people that this old anti-semitism will catch fire again with this leading statement being brought up again.

I cannot say if htis movie is anti-semitic or not since I haven't seen it yet, it will come out next week I think but what I think about it is that people worry too much, it is only a movie, people that were anti-semitic before may find their opinion enforced (not that they were ever been convinced to the opposite side anyway) but I really don't believe that people would become anti-semitic over a movie, at least I strongly don't hope so...

Mia:)

[godoncrack]

by teh mia
but I really don't believe that people would become anti-semitic over a movie, at least I strongly don't hope so...



YOU Mia, do NOT know americans all that well, do you?:(

[Mrs_Mia_Wallace]

Actually the acticle I read (from the German magazine "Der Spiegel") stated that the only place where this movie could change opinions would be in the southern US where "the opinions are as simple as their food" :D

(No offense anyone, I have lived in the very South of VA myself and liked it very much, stil got lots of friends there)

But the article itself was kind of a satire one, it also stated that "one of the worst tortures of the movie was it's film music which sounded as if Andre Rieu was playing a piece by Carl Orff" :blah: That article was hilarious!

I still hope that there will not be that many people being influenced by a movie to sum this up...

...by the way, just noticed the "by teh mia" quote, am I officially 1337 now? I have been waiting for it for more than 1 year now! :p

Mia:)

PS Sorry that I find everything funny right now, it's 4:47 AM right now, good night!

[mark]

he dies

[Deep Soul]

Originally posted by godoncrack
it would be refreshing to see the pain of Mohammad, or the enlightenment of Nirvana.

Yea, I'd like to C that too :) Btw, I've seen the movie; not bad :cool: .

[deeder7001]

i've noticed that all the other Jesus type movies don't have any blood or anything. those movies never told the whole story. those kids movies don't make you feel anything because at the end of the movie you feel good. at the end of "the passion" you don't feel good. but your happy that it happened.

[manthabeats]

I saw this movie, and its one you'll only want to see once. Actually, it wasnt all that good of a movie. Too many shots of him dropping the cross. I think a lot of it was over done. See it once, and thats it.

[xzxzzx]

Everything I have to say about this movie has been said. (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175514)

[Dubguy]

ALL REWLIGIONS ARE BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.:down:

[xzxzzx]

OMG LOL RU LEET HAX0R?!?

[mark]

SI TEH 1337BUMP!!!1 LOLLZ!!!1

[NoSoupForYou!]

I liked the part with the guy. I think his name was Jeebus.


I could build a better table......

[ShyShy]

I'm sure you could with all the modern tools these days :p

[NoSoupForYou!]

Nah. I don't need tools. I once killed a man with a raisin... :igor: :p