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fwgx
15th April 2004, 22:26
and counting, and my final year project SILL isn't finished! This is getting ridiculous! I'm on over 180 pages and I still have 2.5 chapters to do! Damn it.

eleet-2k2
15th April 2004, 22:29
Is that the final project you wanted the first chapter or intro proof-read for?

SSJ4 Gogitta
15th April 2004, 22:29
How many students are doing this? And are the teachers actually going to read this?

morgado
15th April 2004, 22:36
Good question. Will anyone actually read this ?!
I don't doubt it's good ... not this ..
It's just that ... is too much words ...
:)

Hollow
15th April 2004, 22:40
This is what? Final year of HS? I know people whose PhD thesis was't that long.

fwgx
15th April 2004, 22:44
Originally posted by eleet-2k2
Is that the final project you wanted the first chapter or intro proof-read for? Yup.

I guess 150 students, about 8-10 per tutor.

It's double spaced mind and only about 80 pages are the main content of it. The rest are appendicies that include a 15 page requirements spec, a risk analysis, a test plan, test cases, test results, design diagrams, 8 pages on a previous idea for a project etc etc. I'm onto appendix O I think (a,b,c...O!!!) The contents page is actually 3 pages!

Hollow: final year computer science project

sgtfuzzbubble011
15th April 2004, 23:33
Holy shit, man.

d0rk
15th April 2004, 23:44
What exactly is it on?

fwgx
16th April 2004, 00:14
a delta compression download utility. Aimed at 56kers to reduce the download size of files that are updated often.

d0rk
16th April 2004, 00:40
You could get rich off of that :)

Coman
16th April 2004, 04:42
submit one sheet of paper that says: get a cable.

lostonline
16th April 2004, 07:54
That's a big document to write :eek:

Lapikas
16th April 2004, 10:19
My final year project is going to be about 30 pages.. Max. And I'm on page 10 :D
180 pages!! Damn, that's one hell of a pile of paper.

fwgx
16th April 2004, 11:35
Have a gander at it =\:

Open office format (http://www.philybaby.co.uk/uni/project/report-7-3-2004.sxw)
PDF format (http://www.philybaby.co.uk/uni/project/report-15-4-2004.pdf)

Lapikas
16th April 2004, 12:30
Well.. like I have anything better to do..

Reading...........

Hollow
16th April 2004, 14:28
heading for the kettle

heh.

fwgx
16th April 2004, 17:11
bloody hell, you got that far!

Hollow
17th April 2004, 00:29
heh actually i read a good deal of it ~60 pages. That was by far the best expression in it.

k_rock923
17th April 2004, 01:18
i could have used a compression utility for downloading that. . .

Kickboy12
17th April 2004, 01:28
Originally posted by k_rock923
i could have used a compression utility for downloading that. . .

No kiddin...
Takin me a while to download. It'll finish eventually.

horse-fly
17th April 2004, 01:40
oh god!

fwgx
18th April 2004, 22:02
This is quite sweet.

If you wanted to upgrade from version 3.3.2 to 3.3.3 of the gcc-java compiler you would currently have to download a 4.5MB gziped file. Using the wonders of my program you now only need 700K to get the new tar file! That's a 6.5x decrease in bandwidth use!

I'll finish off analysing its performance on different file types tomorrow.

Too-DAMN-Much
19th April 2004, 06:40
Originally posted by Phily Baby
Using the wonders of my program you now only need 700K to get the new tar file! That's a 6.5x decrease in bandwidth use!

uhhhh....
weren't .tar files made to be inherently smaller in the first place? :D

fwgx
19th April 2004, 10:49
no. Tar files aren't compressed, they're just a package of files in one file. That's why a lot of things you find on the net are in .tar.gz format, because first the files are packaged together into one file and are then compressed.

I've also managed to get the 145MB gcc3.3.3.tar package to compress down to 7.5MB. But as the program runs off file differences it's very poor on gziped files because even small changes in the contents causes big changes throughout the whole file. So on a 4.5MB gziped file the delta actually comes out at 6.6MB, which is larger than downloading the new version anyway!

prodangle
19th April 2004, 18:31
I'm in my second last year of an ESE (Electronic and Software Engineering) degree just now. I just handed my project report in a few weeks ago. It was 90 pages long, with no double spacing - it was done by a team of 4, and did have a lot of diagrams though :)

indicavia
19th April 2004, 19:31
Originally posted by Phily Baby
I've also managed to get the 145MB gcc3.3.3.tar package to compress down to 7.5MB.
that sounds sweet! :) I don't get how it's possible to do anything like that..!

just one coment on your report: "Internet" is writen with a capital "I".. :D

fwgx
19th April 2004, 22:44
not in my book!

k_rock923
19th April 2004, 23:15
well it's not a book yet but i'm sure you could make it long enough to be a book if you wanted to.

fwgx
23rd April 2004, 11:02
Final size is 187 pages and 40,870 words! :eek:

report [pdf] (http://www.philybaby.co.uk/uni/project/report-23-4-2004.pdf)
report [OOo sxw] (http://www.philybaby.co.uk/uni/project/report-23-4-2004-final.sxw)

And if you were wondering, this is what it looks like:
http://www.philybaby.co.uk/pictures/fyp.jpg

And I had to print two copies.

Also, if you find any errors don't tell me, I'm not changing it anymore and I'm quite happy to be ignorant.

lostonline
23rd April 2004, 12:58
Well done! Might have a look through it if I get some time, seems like quite an interesting project.

prodangle
24th April 2004, 15:08
Out of interest, how did you fine Openoffice for writing such a long report? I know people who have written thesis in Word, and it's absolutely terrible. After you get over something like 50 pages, word just takes ages to load up the document or do anything.

I used latex to write my report. It can be a real pain sometimes, but it's easy to split the document up into multiple parts and edit it via CVS, which is good for a team project. It also produces very professional looking documents.

fwgx
25th April 2004, 00:17
It's quirky but it did the job ok i guess. It requires a different mind set for a lot of things. Also the syles are weird, you apply a sytle to some text but it's more dependent on the current text style than the ones your trying to set. In the end I wrote down what each subheading style was and went through it all changing it. didn't take too long but was very annoying.

MikeHunt79
25th April 2004, 23:10
Oh man, 40,000 words? Don't you have a word limit or somthing?

Mine's due in in 2 weeks, and I'm meant to be doing it now. Currently, source code with comments = 20,000 words. Need to get the rest done now. Oh, and for the project I put a computer in my car, and am running winamp 5 on it with a home-made skin, hence source code. :D

fwgx
26th April 2004, 02:35
There was a very loosly reccomended page limit but no word limit. I wrote 7000 lines of code too.

And I've just spent the past 6 or 7 hours panicking because I realised it didn't actually work. Thankfully it does now and even bigger thanks that it doesn't affect my analysis I've already done.

It's done, printed bound, code finished, CD of code made and stuck to the report. Now I just have to get up in time to hand it it.

MikeHunt79
26th April 2004, 02:54
Good to hear u got the code going... I reackon that's gonna feel so good once you've given it in. :)

FWIW, We have an 8000 word limit, but that doesn't included what's in the appendix. Anyway, I'd better get away from the forums and back to bloody Microsoft Word.