Winamp 5 Single UI

[osmosis]

oh sweet :D

[Paparazzi]

be patient please :) i've just did some scratches of main script... it will be called Winamp 2 SUI :) (you guess, it'll have gfx from good ol' winamp 2 :p) but it's faaaaaaar away from first beta cuz i have some jobs running in the moment (but i'll do my part on wa5sui :p as soon as i get instructions from iplay) [/B]

While at it, I was wondering if you could work out a way to switch between ML and DL independently?

Cheers

[iPlayTheSpoons]

whats DL?

[Mr Jones]

At a guess, I'd say Dynamic Library?


Isn't that a third party plugin or something?

[jojo 544]

Yes: Dynamic Library (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=210146)

Joonas (the author) already integrated it in ML, but the plugin is now being re-written for use with winamp 5.2x, and for that release the ML integration is going to be dropped.
A switch between ML / DL would be neat then :D

Edit: the DL plugin has become so usefull to me i hardly use ML now, without DL i think i would drop whole winamp and look for another player :p. Maybe DL and a DL-ML switch should become default winamp integrated:up:

[Paparazzi]

True ... I too use the DL so much that if I were the one to have read the thread instead of having written it, I'd have asked what was ML :p

Anyways, there are a lot of users of the DL plugin that they'd easily wish that you could incorporate the lil thing :)

Cheers

[krckoorascic]

yeah DL is very useful, i use it too (but in combination with ML) i tryed (with one of the first versions of DL) to integrate it into player window (in tabs) but had no luck, i'll try with newest version...

[STanger]

so how long til next beta?

[Wildrose-Wally]

The usual answer, when it is ready.
(do they always have to ask?)

[shakey_snake]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
DOUBLE CLICK THE TITLE BAR TO GO INTO SHADE MODE, RESIZE THE SHADE MODE TO DESIRED WIDTH, THEN DOUBLE CLICK AGAIN


I don't mean to be rude here, but I've been doing that for months now.

I thought it was well know... :confused:

[STanger]

as long as this project is taking (no offense to iPlay) he probably posted that months ago.

[osmosis]

bump.

status update?

[jojo 544]

The first post in this threat is today exactly 2 years old.
That should tell you something :D

[Koopa]

Originally posted by jojo 544
The first post in this threat is today exactly 2 years old.
That should tell you something :D
Nope, because the Stargate thread is also 2 years old. ;)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Not that I think this will be met with any fan fare, but I am saying good-bye to Winamp today. Unfortunately, I have been thoroughly converted by the new Windows Media Player 11 (I know, I know...) and have, for the first time in years, removed Winamp from my system. I'm attaching all of the Single GUI files, including the old betas and whatever misc. .psd's I'd made that normally would not have been in the beta .wal's. Thank you for all the support over the years and skins and... well, thats it.

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/WAM_Single_GUI_New.zip (http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/WAM_Single_GUI_New.zip?)

[osmosis]

*jaw drops*


but the library in WMP11 is still so.. "beta" ..



your work and effort were very appreciated in the winamp community iPTS, you'll be missed. hopefully someone will take up your project and bring it to further fruition. keep your memory alive, so to say :)


*jaw drops*

[Wildrose-Wally]

If you don't mind, I'm going to publish this in the Winamp skin database, in it's entirity.

I hope someday you'll be back, but in the mean time, thank you very much for your work on this skin. :)

[osmosis]

wally, there're still a few very pesky bugs in the current WIP he posted. remembering size still needs the windowshade resize trick, and the 1x 2x etc buttons in the vid section still cause problems. not sure what else is broken.

[glop]

Angelfire does not allow direct linking
So i don't succeed in downloading
does someone create a mirror ?


in love for WMP11 too..that's why i'm waiting for the Nullsoft skin for WMP11
iPtS > thanks for all your work

[osmosis]

if you put the link in again at the angelfire page it'll think you're downloading from a link and let you get it. angelfire's script just checks if your previous webpage has angelfire.com in it.

[glop]

eheh ok perfect
is think maybe it's the same May 20th review
http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=147714
don't it ?

[osmosis]

yeah, that's the one Wally just put up. it's the one from angelfire renamed to a .wal

it should say something in the Notes or the Review about it being everything, including all the previous builds.. because i'm sure someone will wonder why they're downloading a 4mb skin, when it really only needs to be about 500kb.

[Cianca]

blah...


Sorry for IPTS.... but now i think that someone take that sources and take the develop of Single UI :up:

[jojo 544]

IPTS always was willing to accept help on this skin from anyone who could come up with some usefull work.
I think a few people actualy wrote some lines to ad but somehow the skin never got finished.
Now that he completely dropped the whole project, maybe it could be finished by someone else, if i could i would give it a try, but i don't have the skils to do so.
The skin as it is now looks nice, but it isn't very usefull.

[Enzifer]

A little question is anybody developing the modern skin SUI?

I hope it because I love the idea that every UI is in ONE skin. I hope too this who develop will add the feature that the skin will keep the size after I restart winamp.

Thanx for this skin....;)

[osmosis]

nobody is currently developing it as far as anyone knows. hopefully someone will take up the torch soon, this was an important project in my mind.. a single ui to be shipped with Winamp meant as a Modern Default alternative for the iTunes converts.

[STanger]

iPlay dropped it? oh man if I could finish it I would he really had it going good there for awhile.

[osmosis]

yeah :( he explained his reasons a page or so back (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1936219#post1936219
) and provided a link to all the WIP dev. materials (including all older versions and .psds, etc.). Wally has gone ahead and posted this bundle on the Skins page in its entirety (4MB) and it can be downloaded here (http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=147714) so you don't need to waste iPTS' bandwidth.

[Kebabrov]

I've had a bash at working on this skin.

i've added two buttons at the bottom, so that you can switch the large pane between vis, ml and video. Also added a button so that you can switch what the small pane shows.

it'll also show the video in the big pane when a video starts playing. if you had avs turned on before a video starts, it'll switch back to avs when the video finishes.

theres still a few issues, but i'm happy with it...
-in shade mode, the vis and library windows dont appear (but they appear to be 'open' somewhere, since cpu usage is high (therefore vis open :)
-alt+L (and the other keyboard shortcuts dont work properly) e.g. it closes the media library (which then opens the video window), pressing alt+L again doesnt always show the media library.. it appears in its own window for some reason
-sometimes the vis window will open its own window, instead of being in the SUI window. i think it might be a timing-related problem with the vis loading before/after the pane is actually made visible
-the ml/vis/vid buttons border is far too dark
-the tv/avslist button hasnt got a border
-expanding the mini pane always starts vis (unless vis is in the big pane)
-videos always play in the big screen (unless video is in the small pane)
-menubar is permanenty hidden

its better if you set the video options to not automatically show/hide the video on start/stop, since the skin does this anyway.

you probably need a fairly new winamp 5, cos of some modern skin fixes, but who knows :)

anyhew, enjoy :)

http://www.aspm52.dsl.pipex.com/sui.zip

[Cianca]

Very great work!!!!!!

now save the dimension on exit!!!

and the switch button avs/video is a thing that i wanted!!!! :D



:up:

[onkelandy]

It's REALLY GREAT! But I'm missing the possibility to view other plugin windows like Winlyrics. There seems to be no way, even not as a seperate window :-(

[Kebabrov]

what dimension doesnt get saved? it seems to work fine for me.

as for other plugin windows, i'll have to poke around a bit more when i have time.. i may have accidentally killed the generic window code/xml/blah

i'm not really a skinner, so everything i've done has been hacked in.. badly :D

[Cianca]

the iplaythespoons version doesn't saved the dimensions... now work :cool:

whatever i don't know if in the last source version the dimensions problem was already fixed


great work... go on :up:

[Koogle]

man..one pretty damn good skin for winamp and then its discontinued.. I'm surprised not many people have taken to carrying on development on this skin.. most of the skins I've seen look rubbish in comparison to this.

[DrO]

people are just too lazy in general and messing with someone else's work is never the easiest to get going with so it's not a surprise that this one hasn't been touched and instead a few other SUI type skins have been produced. is just one of those things however disappointing/frustrating/etc it may be

-daz

[the-nox]

Any News, new developer or progress?

[DrO]

doesn't look like it and doesn't look there will

-daz

[the-nox]

Sad to hear.
But I just stumbled upon this skin, which could be a nice alternative when finished:
http://forums.skinconsortium.com/viewtopic.php?t=417&sid=271a6296727b340e7f83419a9a4ff278

[osmosis]

what's with URLs not working anymore?

[DrO]

it's affectionately known as spam protection (as i'm sure has been evident over the last few months) and is part of a new system put in place to lessen the impact of such activities. this (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2117317#post2117317) thread gives a bit more info on things

the url the-nox posted was http://forums.skinconsortium.com/viewtopic.php?t=417&sid=271a6296727b340e7f83419a9a4ff278

-daz

[Koogle]

still no one wanting to carry on development of this awesome skin replacement... is Kebabrov not around anymore either?

[pjn123]

We have a release planned... Will take the original Modern skin and add SUI... thus not use anything from this skin...

[Koogle]

"Will take the original Modern skin and add SUI... thus not use anything from this skin..." could you be clearer on what you're trying to there?

[pjn123]

Clear enough?

[Screenshot of development.... very early]

What I was trying to say was that our skin isn't taking this skin and adding a few fixes here and there...

[Artist 3D]

Just an idea: the main body doesn't have to be so large, it's a waste of space, I'd put it in the length of the playing list, at the top of it, and the right half will be as it is, for the whole length.

[SLoB]

will most likely be fully scalable to go fullscreen, therefore you can change the overall size and the individual window sizes within

you never know this might also get RGB treatment meaning colour themes could be created on the fly with a colour picker for the main colourisable items

[Artist 3D]

SLoB, I'm not sure if you answered my comment, but I see no connection...
In the current case, scaling down the overal window for taking less space, will scale down also the library and the list, while the main section (the player) will still be very big.
In the idea I mentioned, it's probably in the size of a normal size of today unsingular GUI, of course, if you want it bigger or smaller, you can resize the playing list, but I see no reason someone wants to do that - If a user will resize this section, is only to give the play list bigger space...

[SLoB]

my comment was that u have 4 available windows which house windowsholders so you can put in any main component and resize to users hearts content meaning the scaling of each component can be scaled independantly to a certain extent from the main overall window size, of course by scaling one component you automatically reduce/increase the size of the other remaining components
i dont see any point in scaling the main player section at the bottom other than width and or shifting it up/down depending on cfg drawer opened/closed
the idea of scaling the main section is to fit in more goodies/info, doesnt make much sense to chop it off if its going full screen (would spoil the overall feel/aesthetics of that window) , but the main thing will be resizable

as i said dont forget your not just dealing with a bigger playlist, the windowholders will/can also contain the ml as the main part which then you may want to stretch things out a bit and nothing should look out of place

[Artist 3D]

Ahm, I'm not sure if you don't understand me or I don't understand you, but I uploaded an example of what I mean (they way to order the components in the main window - this way you have more place for the media player / video / visual

[martin.deimos]

i think slob, you want a sui that looks like vortex fullscreen?
and Artist 3d, you want a sui that looks like windows media player?

[Artist 3D]

Maybe you can do a dragable mode for components, so everyone can arrange them into the big unit as they want :p

Though, martin, when thinking about it, Media Player uses the whole width for the timeline as well, so it reacts like vortex .

[SLoB]

ah gotchya now Artist 3D :)
dont think that sort of thing will happen with the version pjn123 is doing i think but i get your point, you want a modular approach to the sui whereas Vortex and probably the new SUI will be built around the main player

so the question is why/would/should the SUI be modular based or built around the main player module

[Artist 3D]

In fact I don't want it modular, I just want more space to the video / media library (by making the main module's width, like the play list's - which means they share the same raw.

This is exactly how the modules are ordered in my screenshot some posts ago :)

[martin.deimos]

your layout is exactly the one i do not want to use!
i want a stretched ml/vid/avs over the whole vis - a lil player wnd next to the playlist component!
i rarely use the Playlist Editor, so it won't get much height from me, hehe!

[Artist 3D]

That's a great reason for the draggable components, so any person will organize the GUI as he likes :)

[pjn123]

delete

[pjn123]

Artist 3D, for your needs you should maybe stick to multiple windows...

Skins like Vortex fullscreen mode and DynamicUI is highly bendable but I want somethin that is easy to use...

Here is a few screen shots of a few action shots of a skin i'm working on...

[Koogle]

playlist is very out of place on the left hand side.. weird

[Artist 3D]

It was hard to see through those small pictures, but, sure, not a problem. Having 2 screens, Winamp sits on the smaller one (17"), and I have no reason to drag it (Unless I'm intensively working on the media library, then I drag it to the 24" screen, to have more space for it).

I was just giving my 2 cents :)

[Mecha25]

I came back to this thread after a LONG hiatus, and what do I find, but the project has been abandoned by its creator. I'm an iTunes convert, but my new MP3 player didn't play well with iTunes, so I switched to Winamp, and not being able to quickly resize all windows at once has bugged me ever since the switch. I was reading through the posts and when I saw that iPlayTheSpoons had converted to WMP, I nearly cried. After the man put two years of his time and effort into this skin (and I've looked at the code, I don't know Maki but the stuff looks DAMN intimidating, and well written) only to abandon it for something that, while a huge improvement over the previous versions, is still nowhere near as efficient or as customizable as Winamp, or even (in my opinion) the BETA of his own skin. Sorry for the run-on sentence. But there is hope! I was pleased to discover that a few posts (and about 5 months) later, Kebabrov took the initiative and put out his own improved version of the skin, and managed to fix the window-resize-on-video-open bug, which is what kept me from using the skin in the first place. I downloaded it and am messing with it as we speak. From what I can tell, I think I've finally found my solution to the iTunes/Winamp problem!

However, there are still a few bugs that need working out:

I was able to break the skin (playlist covered minimize/max/close buttons) but only after extensive experimentation and judicious resizing in ways that probably weren't designed to happen. This is not a major issue to me, because I was able to completely undo what I did without deleting studio.xnf, and I have yet to duplicate the problem.

The overall look and feel of the whole skin is that of a beta, just a general polishing up of the graphics, repositioning some of the buttons, less flicker, stuff like that, although none of that really matters to me (function over form is my preference). The main issue here is that the buttons that Kebabrov added have very different edges than the ones that iPlayTheSpoons made, so it looks like a bit of a mash (no offense intended Kebabrov, it's still great work).

My question: Would it be possible for Kebabrov to get together with krckoorascic (who helped iPlayTheSpoons with the original skin) and tighten things up a bit. All that would be necessary is a few graphical corrections for alternate color themes and a look into the resizing script for the ML/PL border (it does some weird stuff sometimes, possibly because it behaves kinda like it's based off the absolute position of the bar on-screen, rather than on a location relative to the window.)

P.S. MAJOR kudos to Kebabrov for the ML/VIS/VID 2 button combo, the way that works is absolutely genius, all the functionality of 3 buttons, in 2, with no possibility of erroring out the skin by closing all 3. Also, the ability to switch the position of the vid/vis window is amazing. I do believe it is safe to say: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~wdhf2/u/SuckMyBallsITunes.gif

[itssmeeagainn]

Hey there everyone!

I saw that this thread is really old... I've read it almost entirely... I must thank Kebabrov for fixing the saving of size on exit and adding some features. I don't like the other Single GUI skins, so I propose we work on this one. I would help if needed, because this skin definitely deserves further development! I would recommend Nullsoft to help develop it and include it in the Winamp Modern Skin so it would be shipped with the installer. I think that would be great! They could use almost the same graphics and this Single GUI could be an option to the classical skin (Multiple or Single GUI). Please Nullsoft, take this idea in consideration! Many people need a Single GUI for Winamp... One another nice idea would be to stick and mix the windows together, without letting them exist separately by switching the graphics for the Single GUI part. Of course, this is really complicated... I hope I expressed myself clearly, hihi... :D

[Koogle]

Well I do agree this is the best SUI winamp has, just the fact that it has a a decent amount of color group setup makes it very nice to build your own color schemes and the default winamp5 graphics from modern skin work very.. most these others skins that come out usually just suck on the graphics. Its just a shame this skin was abandoned as it could do with finishing off better. Some more built in stuff like the equalizer and the rest of options that usually go in that windows frame liek a few of the other SUI's etc.

Also I can't seem to get the visualizer to work in the SUI frame anymore might have been an winamp update thet ruined it not sure... but it only ever seems to display the video frame which is annoying as the last thing I would do is play video in winamp, sucks as a video player. Plenty of better apps to do video.lol

[itssmeeagainn]

Have you tried this one?

http://www.aspm52.dsl.pipex.com/sui.zip

This works fine for me and I have the latest Winamp.

Of course, it needs more work, but it's on the right track.
(Kebabrov posted it a couple posts before)

[Koogle]

aah doh.. I have that one installed already, but must have forgotten switched to previous one..

ok so the viz does work now... sorted.

just need someone to continue from where Kebabrov left it off now :)

[itssmeeagainn]

Yeah... This one works pretty damn good...
I will try to finish this skin, but I have zero skills at Maki and although I am a programmer, I need some time, which I don't have :(...
I will start learning Maki, but it will take some time...
I will also need the graphics! The new buttons added aren't quite similar to the winamp modern skin ones.
Anyway, people, jump in! Winamp deserves an awesome single gui skin :D

[Koogle]

thats good hear itssmeeagainn good luck

I'll have a look at cleaning up some of the icon graphics, noticed quite a few don't have proper transparent edges

[Koogle]

ok so I did clean up quite a few of the icons , mainly the vid/vis/ml icons... they look more intergrated now.. and most the other icons that had bad transparency like all video icons, they have been sorted.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/806/winampsuian8.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/806/winampsuian8.jpg)

only problem is that i coudln't find out why when pressing the ML button it appears slighty 1-2px horizontally stretched on the 'pressed' state. Oh and the color editor doesn't work anymore with Kebabrov update, have to manualy edit the color preset xml file.. tried to see what he had changed with file compares that caused it to stop working couldn't figure it, don't know maki or much programming.

i'll upload the slighty updated sui skin for anyone interested v.soon

[onkelandy]

Cool that someone's still working on this! U think it would be possible to implement additional plugins in a seperate pane..? I usw winlyrics to show the lyrics and would love to that integrated in the SUI!

[Koogle]

updated skin attached

if you only use the default colour classic modern theme you won't really notice anything other than the button changes for vid/vis/ml that the Kebabrov update had put it. I'm quite happy with this now. Might do some more graphics updates again sometime, but really needs someone to dig into the maki code to really update this skin now :)

SingleGUI_KGL.wal_667kb (http://www.koogle.co.uk/counter/download.php?file=7)

[Mecha25]

ROCK ON Koogle! This was exactly what I was looking for, graphics wise. There's no shadow on the border of the AVS menu button and the online-TV button, but other than that, great work!

Also, can anybody take a look at the resizing script for the ML/PL border? It still is giving me problems. To see what happens weird with it, make the player take up a lot of the screen, move the ML/PL border all the way to the left to hide the library, then move the left edge of the player to the right. The ML/PL border will disappear, and the graphics will get funky. I think this is because while resizing, the ML/PL border keeps its position on-screen, rather than relative to the player edges. I think just a change of the ML/PL border position tracking script could fix it, but I could be totally wrong. Does anyone who knows Maki feel willing to look into this? ItssMeeAgainn, do you think you could handle fixing this?

One last thing, to keep the skin from splitting into different versions, I'd like to ask that everybody who works on this (and I'd like as many people to work on it as possible) uses the most recently posted version. That way we won't have old buggy versions being spruced up and confused with new ones. I think at this point, the skin doesn't really need much extra functionality (unless anyone wants to suggest some that they can add) but just graphic and bug fixes.

Keep up the great work everybody, I think that if we show a bug-free version of this to the main guys at Nullsoft, they might be willing to include it with the main distro of Winamp. Also, I've got a Google page that I can use to host the latest version (I think) as long as it is kept under 50 megs (shouldn't be any problem :rolleyes:) Koogle, would you want me to host yours? or would you be willing to host the newest version?

Thanks again to everybody who is working on this, I'm dying to see a genuine Community-Built skin that really works.

<edit> OMFG Koogle, the KGL GUI color theme is PIMPIN! </edit>

[Koogle]

"I think you missed the AVS Menu button, the one that shows the menu for switching presets. "

yeah I see what you mean, guess I missed it, doesn't really show up too much on the dark theme :)

I'll fix it tomorrow, and upload the update with the edited photoshop files. If you want to make a mirror go for it, think this skin is more of community free for all skin now :)

[Mecha25]

Sure thing, I'll set up the mirror tonight, hope google will let me. Also, check out the internet TV icon too, it has the same look issue I think. Both do look fine on dark skins (the KGL GUI makes the problem disappear), but the "default" one I use makes the problem show up a lot. Thanks for the help, now if we can only find a Maki coder :p

[pjn123]

Personally I think this skin will never be finished. Just to much work... Will be faster to recode from the start. Basically the main place that need coding is the component handler and the window internal frame resizers. Those two stuff takes some very tricky coding.

The thing that makes this skin an almost impossible task is the fact that you're trying to change a skin into a sui skin... Wrong way....

You should rather create the sui skin and then add the graphics.

To save you lots of time you can rather just wait and grab the Azenis version of the default modern skin(if you really need the default winamp look that). That will be ready a few weeks after the launch of Azenis 2...

[Koogle]

I'm always up for checking out new stuff, but so far this one unfinshed abandoned skin, that like you say probably won't ever be finished... has actually done a good job of keeping me using winamp.. So until there is another skin that offers a good style/graphics(and this one just happens to be the only SUI skin with decent gammagroups setup aswel), and extra features I'll stick with this, and if anyone else wants to continue working on it then all the better. No point in putting people off the task no matter how crazy it might seem to you.

"To save you lots of time you can rather just wait and grab the Azenis version of the default modern skin(if you really need the default winamp look that). That will be ready a few weeks after the launch of Azenis 2..."

well I'm waiting to see them, maybe I can be converted..until then :)

[Mecha25]

I heartily agree with Koogle, we all know there are better skins out there from a subjective standpoint (Kameleon_DUI by Leechbite for example, has yet to be equaled in style and functionality) but we want to work on this one because we like its layout and how it looks and feels. If you're not going to actively contribute to the project, or at least provide positive feedback or even just a simple bug-report, then don't bother posting here; go back to making your own Azenis 2 better than this, because until it is, I'm sticking with this one, thanks.

Also, Koogle, I'm looking into learning Maki, to see if I can fix some of the bugs myself. I've taught myself coding languages before, and I've got PLENTY of free time this summer, so maybe I can kick some life into this "old abandoned skin" :D

BTW, I will keep my eye on Azenis, some of its features do show promise.

[pjn123]

I hear you Mecha25.

Here is my positive feedback.

To get this skin working it needs a component handler redesign... So who ever are up for the job can have a look at the method I used for Azenis. Just pm me and I'll send you the source.

Also add wantfocus="1" to ALL <group blablabla /> objects.
Like this: <group id="mygroup" fitparent="1" wantfocus="1"/>... This can be done by anyone that have time. This will fix the mouse wheel that dont move the volume when you click on the main player.

Also need move="1" param on the bottom area...

[Mecha25]

Thanks, that was exactly the kind of stuff we're looking for but... damn... um... ok, I'm not THAT good, I was thinking it was just a matter of changing what the resize bar object refers to to get its new position upon resizing the player. Redesigning the whole component handler is way out of my league, at least until I have a whole lot more experience with Maki coding. I can do the wantfocus=1 and the move=1 edits, but I need someone who already knows Maki to do the redesign.

ALRIGHTY THEN! We need someone who enjoys this skin to step out from obscurity and help us fix it. I do know enough about Maki by now that I can put your name in the credits at least, (I intend to do so for anyone who contributes to this skin, past and future). And since I'm pretty sure this is officially a free-for-all development skin (considering the original coder left all the resources open to the community and said "have at it") I don't think that there'll be any problems with people considering this to be a rip. (can a Mod or Admin back me up here, if it's official I think people will be more willing to help.)

A huge thank-you in advance to anybody who can do this!

<edit>alright! file is hosted: http://mechaphoenix25.googlepages.com/SingleGUI_KGL.wal oh wait I can't show URLs yet, can a mod please edit this so the URL shows up?</edit>

[Wildrose-Wally]

I won't call it a rip neither, but before it gets published, it has to be good. So no half fast jobs, no fixes that break other things, the final product should work flawless.

<edit>alright! file is hosted: http://mechaphoenix25.googlepages.com/SingleGUI_KGL.wal oh wait I can't show URLs yet, can a mod please edit this so the URL shows up?</edit>

[Koogle]

another small forum update just includes the needed fixes mentioned by mecha25, also did few more tweaks. Same url as before..

SingleGUI_KGL-v1.wal_676kb (http://www.koogle.co.uk/counter/download.php?file=7)

I'm thinking if no one does contact you pjn123 about the source to help with the extra component stuff for this skin then let me know and I'll have a bash at it.

[Mecha25]

I'm updating the mirror now, although frankly I checked out your website and it looks like you've already got a pretty darn good setup there, so I don't think 2 hosts are really necessary. Anyway, I'm going to take pjn123's advice and get the mouse scroll wheel changing the volume when the main player is selected, and have the bottom area be dragable to move the player. I'll post the new version when I'm done.

[Mecha25]

Ok, I looked through the code and adding the volume change on scroll function was easy enough. The problem is, I'm at a loss of where to put the move="1" parameter, because I must have tried at least 20 different places, and the only one that worked was for the LCD display. The weird thing is that the bottom of the player is created twice, but neither one (and not even both at once) responds to the move="1" command. The first time, it is created with the attribute Ghost="1" which isn't mentioned in the skinning page on Winamp. Sorry, this is probably me being very stupid and unable to find it, but does anyone know how I can get this going? Anyway, now the LCD can be used to move the player, but the rest of the bottom won't do it.

That, and pjn123 was darn skippy, the component manager needs a complete rewrite, because I'm still getting a lot of (thankfully fixable but very annoying) bugs when doing things different ways.

While I was trying to find out where to put the move="1", I did some other miscellaneous bug fixes as well:
1. The timer on the playlist is now left aligned, so it won't be cut off if you have huge playlists like I do
2. The config window is no longer stuck on top of everything
3. The songticker (at least the regular mode of it) works like most others, opening ID3 on doubleclick and the song menu on rightclick.
4. The author/title/comment box has been updated, with the names of everybody who's worked on the skin. If I've forgotten anybody, please tell me, I'd be happy to add them.

Remaining issues, other than the component manager:
1. no button to open the EQ/config/color chooser window, Koogle, could you make one to replace the redundant repeat/shuffle LCD display things? (the ones at the bottom already do the exact same thing, and look a lot better)
2. The "classic" songticker has problems, when you switch to it it doesn't display the same thing as the regular one, and when you switch back the new one is goofed up. Since this was an added feature (modern skin doesn't have it) can we just remove it? I don't know anything about songticker design, so fixing it would be tough.
3. Kebabrov removed the Main Menu (a good idea in my opinion) but not the option in the config menu. Should I remove the option, or try to get the menu working again? I'd prefer removing the option, because the menu is made with Maki, which I am a beginner at.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback on the bug fixes/still to be fixed, and we still need a coder to redesign the component handler, so anyone who wants to step up will be very appreciated.

Here's the new version with all the bug fixes incorporated. If anybody finds any bugs that I've created, please tell me, I've got a backed-up version of the old skin so I can do whatever changes are necessary

http://mechaphoenix25.googlepages.com/SingleGUI_MCH.wal
open quote view to see the URL, if a mod could change this so it posts I'd appreciate it.

[SLoB]

you could put in a dummy blank layer as a move mask on any area underneath all the buttons and wotnot so it overlays the base gfx and put a move="1" on that, that should take care of moving the player around

not sure what songticker version thing you have going with this(not looked) but checkout the really smooth classic songticker NickMikh did, it also has a toggle for the std songticker

[Mecha25]

yeah, the dummy idea had occurred to me, but I'm not sure how I'd code that, (still a total newb, this is the first skin I've actually looked at the code for) the problem is it looks like somebody already tried that, seeing as there are 2 background layers, the first one with ghost="1" and the other without it, btw, what does that line do? I'm assuming it makes the layer invisible, but why would it be on the first one, if the graphics will all overlay it, and therefore intercept any user input?

[SLoB]

it doesn't make it invisible (well sort of does) it just makes it non selectable, doesn't really make any sense to ghost it unless something underneath is needed to be triggered, not looked at the code for it

the cool songticker is @ SC btw

[entryway]

When I click on Shoutcast TV and select something there, then video does not start after successful buffering. To start video I should click Vis\Vid button (twice)

[Mecha25]

um.... not sure if this is a problem with the skin, can you elaborate? I don't think a skin can mess with the inner workings of the Media Library like that, or if there's anything that can be done to fix it.

By the way, a general update, I've done just about as much work as I can on this skin (pitiful I know, but I'm a fixer, not a coder or an artist) so if anybody cares to work on this skin other than me, feel free. Latest version is still hosted at my site, look backwards in the posts to find it.

[SLoB]

Rather than having to go back in the thread, perhaps add it as a sig? (you have not got one atm), that way anyone in any of the wa forums might pickup on it and contribute, just an idea ;) (and yes its probably on this very same page but you know what I mean ;) )

[iPlayTheSpoons]

what parts specifically need work still? anyway i could help?

[onkelandy]

Actually, I'm still looking for a single UI skin with the possibility to implement 3rd party plugins as part of the window... Something really adaptable that let's me configure the skin for something like this:
upper left: coverart (read from the tag, not only folder.jpg), video or visuals
lower left: lyrics plugin (winlyrics or something like this)
middle: playlist
right: media library / dynamic library, etc.

[pjn123]

onkelandy:
Maybe you should try one of our skins at www.skinconsortium.com :
- 1010Fullscreen
- Vortex (Fullscreen mode)
- Winamp-2006(no lyric)
- Azenis 2(no lyric)

[Cianca]

Originally posted by Mecha25
um.... not sure if this is a problem with the skin, can you elaborate? I don't think a skin can mess with the inner workings of the Media Library like that, or if there's anything that can be done to fix it.

By the way, a general update, I've done just about as much work as I can on this skin (pitiful I know, but I'm a fixer, not a coder or an artist) so if anybody cares to work on this skin other than me, feel free. Latest version is still hosted at my site, look backwards in the posts to find it.

ehy Mecha... can you add the sidecar addon to your Single Ui Skin? :up:

[onkelandy]

Originally posted by pjn123
onkelandy:
Maybe you should try one of our skins at www.skinconsortium.com :
- 1010Fullscreen
- Vortex (Fullscreen mode)
- Winamp-2006(no lyric)
- Azenis 2(no lyric)

Acutally I like Azenis 2 very much, but as u state, there is no elegant way to implement a plugin like lyrics.. :(
Would be soooo cool if u'd integrate such a feature..

[pjn123]

Will play around with it when I continue work on Azenis...

[pjn123]

Bump :D

If anyone here is up for an major upgrade for this skin take a look here:
http://forums.skinconsortium.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=945

This will allow this skin to have a brand new sui area that works. All you have to do (roughly) is to remove all current code for the sui and just include the <ClassicPro:SUI/> xui object where it should be and off you go. Theres also a few gfx that need to be done.

[Koogle]

well it would make a could replacement for the inner frame section of this skin.. keeping all the original bottom section with the better laid out playback functions/timeline/volume.. a similar standard to azenis

but unfortunately I wouldn't know where to start on getting this built in.. although I still do have the old kabro maki files and the last edited xml files I had done earlier. Mainly only able to xml edits and graphics stuff, maki stuff and compiling it is a headache and don't have winamp setup for that.

Also when are you going to improve the layout of ClassicPro like in areas of drawer.. where its still got a bit of the bento nuubness.. the azenis drawer was much better, not just a single 1 button drop menu for switching drawers.. next/previous etc, well i'll leave the rest of the cpro discussion for another time.

[pjn123]

If you want to next/prev though the drawer, make sure the skin is in focus and then move the mousewheel over the bottom drawer select. It will now toggle through all the drawers (except vis because its to slow and was causing errors)

All thats needed to implement is xml editing. Will probably do this later if no one started on it.
What needs to be done?
- Strip all sui xml stuff till you have a clean skin in the middle.
- Implement cpro:sui xui (just a few lines of xml)
- Finish the gfx

[Koogle]

"If you want to next/prev though the drawer, make sure the skin is in focus and then move the mousewheel over the bottom drawer select. It will now toggle through all the drawers (except vis because its to slow and was causing errors)"

mousewheel support.. ok thats better :) .. how long has that function been on that button?

well if its just xml stuff I could try it, but I'd still need to know which files..otherwise "Finish the gfx" i can handle

[SLoB]

most dds ie drop downs have supported mousewheel for years

winamp now supports mousewheel on a group/layout, so for example you had a group containing scrollable items you can use wheel mouse if within that specific group area - this was coded pre 5.54 when i was toying with rotating album art

[osmosis]

*Bump*

Would still love to see someone give this the ClassicPro:SUI treatment. :D

[pjn123]

Yes still on the to do list... Must just find the time ;)

[osmosis]

Awesome! :)

I'm sure at some point Steve Gedikian would come across it and it would bring tears to his hardened anti-AOL eyes.

[Koogle]

sign me up.. this is still The BEST skin to use for winshade mode..

my default :P
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1849/capture7.png

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/820/capture4.png


its one lacking thing in winshade mode is there isn't a visible timeline progress bar just undernead the song (artist - title) info... only thing you got is the little timeline grabber that moves position, unlike like the volume control which shows both grabber and a visual bar on level... for a dark skin like the top one that would look good with some slight changes, obviously in the lighter version and the way its currently designed it wouldn't fit. and of course I'd chuck out the [open], [PL], [ML] buttons.. or have them as optional, no need for them really in winshade mode when its an SUI skin though the playlist does open seperatly which is nice... just a shame you can't have the winshade part of the skin [Always on Top] and not have it do the same for the playlist frame, so the playlist is only visible when winamp is in focus....but its overal layout customization and placement of everything is top notch.

Just a shame its lacking all the other niceties in its main SUI these days :) could definitely do with some filling out with some of the cpro objects but keeping the same main player control layout where everything is all closely positioned and where the timeline fills the maximum width of the skin... unlike *cough* other skins :igor: