Winamp 5 Single UI

[steve]

Hey Guys,

I spent some time mocking up a version of the Winamp skin that's a single UI, i.e. no separate Windows.

Anyway, we'd love to have anyone in the community who has the time to actually build this skin.

Here's are some mocks of what the skin would look like.

http://www.cockos.com/~steve/photos/single/librarymode.png
http://www.cockos.com/~steve/photos/single/videovismode.png

Any takers?

-s

[hammerhead]

It's a good idea :)

[carlosp]

that is pretty easy. just make seperate layouts and give them the ids which are needed. i think only a little bit xml and some bits maki maybe.

[sanosuke]

The library mode looks good but how about make the library window swapable with video/vis windows and put the equaliser in place of the video window.

[UUL]

nice idea

@ sanosuke: see one thread above yours ;)

[sanosuke]

Originally posted by steve

Any takers?

-s Ok i missed that.

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Sure

I've wanted to do something like this for a while, but dont have the graphic skills to pull it off. Does this mean I have nullsoft permission to use modern skin graphics? do you just want it built into the modern skin?

Well, my resume is in my sig (Im perfectly capable)...so if you want me to go ahead with this, give me a PM or an email (iplaythespoons[at]hotmail.com). Sounds like fun.

[dlinkwit27]

ipts...all but classix in your sig are 404's

[iPlayTheSpoons]

fixed (silly new site), thanks

[dlinkwit27]

not a prob. :p

as for the skin, is this possible? I thought having windows like this is what made invitica have problems?

[iPlayTheSpoons]

completely and easily possible. just a matter of doing it. i got a running start using winamp modern as a base for gfx, but sven codes very different than me, so its taking some time to get how i want it, but its comming along nicely. as soon as i get permission, ill show something.

[dlinkwit27]

I see. This will be interesting then :)

[Gonzotek]

Please feel free to use this skin as a reference point to build your new Winamp5 skins.
That is in the modern skin's skin.xml and the about box in prefs

So that, plus steve's initial request asking that it be based off the modern skin says to me that you would be perfectly welcome to do this.

[EdgeOfEpsilon]

Why not simply put the ML and playlists in the Video/Vis area? It would only require a few new graphics (mainly modifying the playlist buttons to work with the video/vis bar, which I did some work on a while ago), the only tricky part would be the MAKI, as Sven hasn't released .m files (that I know of). I would do it in a heartbeat, and I could probably code the MAKI myself.

[Gonzotek]

Winamp Modern Skin with Script Sources (http://bluemars.planet-d.net/sdk/Winamp5/Winamp%20Modern%20Skin%20with%20Scripts%20Sources.zip)

[ampewin]

Nice idea but... where the playlist editor will fit?

Anyway I believe that at the end this skin will be a lot WMPish ;-)

[ampewin]

Oh and I have asked that in another thread but...

instead of creating an all in one windows skin wouldn't it be better to be able to lock all windows in a group to move them together? Yes I know about the Ctrl+Alt and drag but having an option of to move all winamp's windows like a single windows would be nice.

[steve]

iPlayTheSpoons, yes, please use the modern skin to create this UI assuming you're up for it. If you're running into an issue with need for specific images, let me know via my email. We'll try and get you the images you need.

[iPlayTheSpoons]

awesome...its underway...ill post my progress as soon as there is something substantial to show

[iPlayTheSpoons]

some progress

i know, it looks a tad hackey right now, but im getting to know the code pretty well, and its functional right now, so thats good

[WHEREamI]

haha.. love the title. throw in WombatShare or HydraML, and it's a complete iTunes clone.. But better.

[VAG]

Suggestion, on the bottom part right side of the seeker , would be good to have a small lcd with vis, right above the wa logo ;)
A small lcd with vis or time to display with a right click menu on it ,will make that last vew Jared posted more complete I think.

What you think?

[iPlayTheSpoons]

heres the current state of things....getting much more functional now.

this is with video playing (it just doesnt show)...the video part comes down when playing a video file, hides otherwise and its just the playlist (judging from my friends use, very intuitive)...the video button on the far right (not sure what it was meant for in the screen shot) changes the ml to video, so completely resizable and all of that. seems to work pretty well so far.

not yet sure how to integrate the avs, will work on that

[Krynis]

sexy

[VAG]

Great work Jared!

Another suggestion, make the timer don't be 00:00 but 00:00:00 you know for what reasons.......
Btw if you want any other LCD font to put there let me know to send you.
A vis is missing on the right side of that slim LCD you have upon seeker and will be complete IMHO.

Keep it up my friend!

[matt_69]

progressing nicely there iplay...its turning out very well...are we still going to see the same colour themes as in the original winamp modern skin?

-matt

[EdgeOfEpsilon]

One thing I noticed - I'd move the songticker to the left one pixel so it is aligned with the matrix in the background.

[steve]

Wow, this thing is coming along very nicely. Great job! I'd love a chance to play with it when you feel it's ready to share...

-s

[steve]

Also, make sure as you're building it that you keep all the color theme id's the same so that the existing Winamp Modern color themes all work...

-s

[iPlayTheSpoons]

they do :) ... ill try and get you something solid to play with in the next couple of days

[matt_69]

nice to hear jared

-matt

[steve]

any updates on this front?

-s

[iPlayTheSpoons]

its comming. had to rewrite a lot of the code to adapt to users manually hiding components (like pressing alt+L), but almost there...ill send you a PM with a beta as soon as its ready

[PM sent - didnt know if betas had to be kept private or anything...just say so if not]

[iPlayTheSpoons]

for those of you interested in this...heres what its looking like (getting more functional too). wating to here back from steve on some stuff, but comming along nicely

[matt_69]

looking very sexy there jared...can't wait till you have a version out for us to use..good work

-matt

[kiilu]

what's the point of making it so similar to the default skin.

it looks okay but rather empty if you ask me.

[Mr Jones]

Originally posted by kiilu
what's the point of making it so similar to the default skin.




Err, because Steve asked if anyone would make a single UI version of the default skin?, that's the aim of the whole project, not to make full screen skin in your own desing, make a full screen version of the default winamp skin.

Re-read first post in this thread if it's not clear enough.

[steve]

hey iplaythespoons feel free to post the builds of the skin if you'd like. there's no reason to keep people drooling forever :)

-s

[UUL]

Woehoew !!!!!!! :)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

ok :)

SingleGui-10003 (http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/SingleGUI-10003.wal?)

but, as you can plainly see, its a shitty host...i dont know how much bandwidth i have, but i guess we'll see

[matt_69]

very suave there jared...good work.

although the button that hides the playlist looks a little weird..when its normal its pointing to close it, but when the plalist is hidden the button is still facing the same way..maybe is should b able to face the other way to make it look like it opens the playlist again. it doesn't bother me or n e thing, just doesn't look right.

excellent work again.

-matt

[SLoB]

nice :)

as for the hosting, here's a very cheap and vgood one http://www.web-mania.net
plus php/mysql support all included!

[inthegray]

iplay, i can host the skin at winampunlimited.com or inthegray.com if you'd wish. i've got bandwidth to spare. nice work on the skin, btw.

[UUL]

nice, maybe you can add a button to set the size to fullscreen?

[Wildrose-Wally]

I have a ton of space, and a ready made page where it can be added. Let me know if you'd like it on there:
http://www.fusionamp.com/Nullsoft_Skinz.htm#Winamp_5_Single_UI

[edit]It's up, just let me know if you like it there. :)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

@ matt69 - the current is actually a fake button, just have to make graphics for real one

@ hosting offers - thanks all, but i dont think it was too needed, and now that wally has done that, its a moot point

@ UUL - i was gunna do that with the button that usually goes to shade mode - what do you think steve? (theres already the one in the video, but thats kinda limited)

@ wally - cool...but, remember its in beta stages, so maybe advertise that fact.

[Wildrose-Wally]

It's in the title:
Winamp 5 Single UI [Modern Skin Beta Version]

[iPlayTheSpoons]

how dare you :):):)::):):):):):)::)::):):)))))))

[Wildrose-Wally]

well, just like this: :D

[will]

http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~wdhf2/u/SuckMyBallsITunes.gif

[Andrea6187]

Originally posted by will
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~wdhf2/u/SuckMyBallsITunes.gif

:winamp: Winamp Rox:up: :D

I Think ITunes is only a MusicPlayer+ML,Winamp is a vary player(Audio,Video,ML,Skins,Plugins,Internet Radio/TV,and more)

[inthegray]

will, it'd be good if you did a screenshot with the classic skin as well... maybe not as pretty, but it'd REALLY show the difference in memory usage, like in my own screenshot (http://www.inthegray.com/winampunlimited/like_the_wind/processes.gif)

[Andrea6187]

Originally posted by inthegray
will, it'd be good if you did a screenshot with the classic skin as well... maybe not as pretty, but it'd REALLY show the difference in memory usage, like in my own screenshot (http://www.inthegray.com/winampunlimited/like_the_wind/processes.gif)

Yeahh:up: :D

[artificeren]

First off, this skin will most likely become my main skin. I'm a big fan. Now, I don't know if these are planned features or not... but these are the big gaps i'm seeing right now.

1) I'd like to see the playlist be resizable. My titles go Artist - Album - Track# - Title, and as it is now, when I add an album to the playlist all i can see is the artist and album. Way too skinny.

2) It'd be awesome if the video window was the avs window when it's audio that is playing.

3) I don't see any way of opening the eq...

Anyway, i'm really looking forward to the final release of this.

[Zulithe]

Brilliant :) I am glad to see Winamp attempting to compete more with iTunes.

The only thing left is a pay-to-download service for music built right in! Oh ... well, we don't really want that now, do we? :p

Good luck on the skin, I'll be watching very closely!

[shins]

Does anyone know the legalities of copying the itunes skin for a single UI skin in winamp?

[UUL]

contact the author ;)

[Gonzotek]

Originally posted by shins
Does anyone know the legalities of copying the itunes skin for a single UI skin in winamp? If you're thinking of using the actual bitmaps, Apple will definitely not agree with this. If you want it to resemble iTunes, Apple may still not agree with it, depending on just how close it appears to be to the original. Apple only recently forced a media player project for a pda to stop using their interface, which resembled an iPod and to change the project's name.

[siebe83]

really cool plugin! :D

in the default modern skin, after clicking the main window, scrolling the mouse will adjust the volume
would that be possible in the skin as well? so that, after clicking the player area, the scroll will adjust volume instead of scrolling the playlist? (or even better: clicking with the scroll button to let player area gain focus)

apart from that, i agree with artificeren's points

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by shins
Does anyone know the legalities of copying the itunes skin for a single UI skin in winamp?

if someone were to take the iTunes graphics and port them to winamp, they would be boned. What were doing here is using 100% unique-to-winamp grpahics to make a single window GUI. you can draw comparison to iTunes, as many seem to have, but thats hardly copywrite infringment

anyways, i will work on making the playlist area resizable (i want it bigger, too :)). the avs/video swapping will be there soon enough.

and the EQ/config/color themes drawer may have to be added back in, but ill have to ask steve (hey steve, what do you think?) - unless i make it a seperate window (ala iTunes)...

the window focus issues are already known, but beyond my control at this point

[UUL]

Originally posted by siebe83
really cool plugin! :D

in the default modern skin, after clicking the main window, scrolling the mouse will adjust the volume
would that be possible in the skin as well? so that, after clicking the player area, the scroll will adjust volume instead of scrolling the playlist? (or even better: clicking with the scroll button to let player area gain focus)

apart from that, i agree with artificeren's points that's possible on every skin (isn't it :rolleyes: )

[artificeren]

it seems to me that, ideally, the eq/config/color "drawer" should go where (or in a similar place as where ) the "more info" area is in the media library.

[PulseDriver]

The iPlay skin have very similar graphics to the default OS/X graphics... but I don't know if it's ported or original.

Be careful though, as there are a lot of programs that have copyrighted layout of all things... I don't know if iTunes are one of those, but I know the program mentioned most frequently (after WinAmp of course) have copyrighted layout. Photoshop.

[leechbite]

great work spoons! a suggestion, if you havent thought of it yet, maybe have rpc's cd cover somewhere in the layout?
:)

[steve]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons

and the EQ/config/color themes drawer may have to be added back in, but ill have to ask steve (hey steve, what do you think?) - unless i make it a seperate window (ala iTunes)...

Yes, I think we should make the config drawer a separate window.

-s

[Paparazzi]

Would it be possible to put the visualizations in the place the video shows when the media played is audio?

It would be nice if it could be done that way and then a toggle on/off for those who don't want it.

Cheers

[mrspoon]

Fantastic job. That, right there, is my new Winamp skin. Never thought anything would replace Modern.

A couple of things though:

1. The pseudo-LCD track time font is too big, and ought to be shrunk down a bit. That, or it should be the same dot-matrix font as the songticker.

2. The video/visualisation pane above the playlist is quite cool. How about sticking EQ and colour themes there too, or at the bottom? Toggle-able, obviously.

[steve]

Here are my thoughts on the latest version of the skin:

- ditch the 1x 2x fill screen buttons when the video is embedded within the playlist editor.
- add a "detach" type button for the video window from the single ui
- make the config drawer a separate window that is spawned, not a drawer.
- make the resizable drawer an option, not on by default.

other than that. good shit..

-s

[steve]

Oh yeah, and add a "maximize" window button to the window controls in the title bar...

-s

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by steve
Here are my thoughts on the latest version of the skin:

- ditch the 1x 2x fill screen buttons when the video is embedded within the playlist editor.
- add a "detach" type button for the video window from the single ui
- make the config drawer a separate window that is spawned, not a drawer.
- make the resizable drawer an option, not on by default.

other than that. good shit..

-s

-the 1x/2x/fillscreen buttons already go "disabled" in the small mode...want to just totally hide them?
-detatching video is easy, no prob
-eq/config/themes already windowized, just cleaning up its corresponding script
-i was gunna make the divider work normally on a regular click, and resize when you drag it...how do you want to configure it?

that fullsize button, consider it done

any help for what the button/setup should look like for having the video toggleable (both for showing/hiding mini and for detatching)...i have something drawn up, but i wanna know what you want it to look like

[Gonzotek]

Originally posted by steve
Oh yeah, and add a "maximize" window button to the window controls in the title bar...

-s Hell yeah! The standard Modern UI Library needs a maximize button, too, IMHO. That one's bugged me for awhile.

[Paparazzi]

And if the maximize is there, why not make it toggle(able) so that it can go into the shade mode also. The shade mode can just be the same as is in the standard modern skin.

[mark]

:up: me likes this skin...

[KriTenKs]

The winshade mode doesn't work for me, I have to double click on the tile area.

So how will this Single UI work when it's intergrated with the modern skin? Will it be another mode like winshade mode? Or will there be an attach/detach button on the media library and playlist editor?

[Antaeras]

Beauutiful, keep up the great work.

[siebe83]

i have a windows tool bar at the left
the maximize button in the video window resizes fine to the maximum, though after that wa is positioned at the uttermost left (so it's behind my toolbar and at the right there's empty space...)

[Nineworlds]

Is there a way to change the width of the play list? I often have song names which go beyond the space alloted in this skin.

Thanks (and great job, BTW).

- Iain.

[shins]

Just had a random idea. What if this skin could be made to be like a toolbar, so that when you mouse over the edge of your screen, you have virtually every winamp option on the screen. Would this be possible with 5.03?

[Paparazzi]

Has the work on this stopped? :(

Would really appreciate if it could be made possible to put the visualizations in the place the video shows when the media played is audio (as an option ofcourse;)

If it were able to go into the shade mode would be a plus too!

[iPlayTheSpoons]

not stopped, just been busy with the personal life lately...will get back to some serious work on this as soon as possible.

[ziege]

Originally posted by will
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~wdhf2/u/SuckMyBallsITunes.gif

THE SHI... SHII.... SHIREHORSES!!!!1

[VAG]

:D hehehehe GREAT WORK !!!!!!

[Thal]

I am looking forward to a more final version of this one. I like the idea and might end up using it a lot when done.

Keep up the good work.

[kingo'mountain]

i bet steve sits in his $100,000 chair saying "i control you, i own you, youre mine biatch, nowhere to run or hide, winamp!"

*scoots*

[will]

Originally posted by ziege
THE SHI... SHII.... SHIREHORSES!!!!1 ahahaha... someone noticed!
I can honestly say that the two shirehorses albums are the worse pieces of music I have ever heard.

Total comic genius.

Also, feature request: I'd like to see AVS in the slot above the playlist.

[iPlayTheSpoons]

it will be :)

[mark]

CODE FASTER, CODE MONKEY!

[someguy_99]

Is there a way to port custom color themes from the modern skin to Single GUI without doing it manually? IE a file you can copy?

[matt_69]

yeah...gammasets.xml..that should work. take it from the xml folder of the modern skin and put it into the xml folder of the single ui skins...then add
<include file="xml/gammasets.xml" />
into the skin.xml where the rest of the file includes are unless its already there.

-matt

[gaekwad2]

Or this way:

The custom themes are in either winamp\plugins\ColorThemes\winamp modern or winamp\plugins\freeform\wacs\ColorEditor\data.
In the first case copy all files from that directory to ..\Winamp_5_Single_UI, otherwise make a copy of winamp modern.xml called Winamp_5_Single_UI.xml.

[Paparazzi]

It would also be helpful if the lenghts can be seen just below the the playlist ... as in other playlists. I mean, the total time and the time of the selected files!

[STanger]

gaekwad and matt :

both methods you both have mentioned didn't work for me one bit

so what else could I try?

<edit>just had to reinstall wa5 :S </edit>

[matt_69]

maybe iPlay hasn't added the gammagroups into the bitmaps? iPlay can u help here?

-matt

[keville]

I just wanted to say that this little project is freaking awesome. I had wondered why the ML didn't have play controls, I could almost have gotten rid of winamp's main menu then... This project represents what makes Winamp so great: the player is super-extensible via skins, plugins, etc. and if someone likes the interface a certain way, odds are someone has coded a way to make it work. The SingleUI skin is exactly what I happened to be looking for from winamp. I keep it running on my 2nd monitor in windowshade mode where it makes a perfect mini-player while an album is playing, then a double-click turns it into a full-screen media information center! Too rad.

If only I could code as well as I skin, I'd get motivated to make some contributions myself :igor:

So... Thanks. I really enjoy this here Single UI!

[someguy_99]

Bit of a problem here... I set the in-player video size to 1/2, then to 2x, but for some reason that stretched the skin horizontally and vertically. I got the horizontal stretch fixed no problem, but the vertical stretch is another matter. I cant move the window up far enough to get to the bottom! Do I have any options here, or is the skin screwed over?

[EDIT]
Nevermind, there was a little stretch on the right side next to the playlist that I was able to drag upwards. All fixed now :) You should probably get that bug looked at though:igor:

[xtremeboat]

This is incredible!! I normally have my Winamp windows set up in a similar layout to resemble the layout of itunes and this makes it so much simpler with everything physically in one window. This should be distributed with Winamp as an alternative to the default skin.

[DJ Egg]

Originally posted by xtremeboat
This should be distributed with Winamp as an alternative to the default skin.
That was kinda the intention... to distribute it as an alternative option with 5.04.
However and alas, time is running out... unless it's completed, like very very soon.

[STanger]

well if it's not ready in time for 5.04 then 5.05 maybe?

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by xtremeboat
[B]This is incredible!! I normally have my Winamp windows set up in a similar layout

Me too :D don'tknow about itunes thou.
I mean some kind of a full screen winamp.
Now i use resurgence skin, it has all playback controls in pled, so only 2 windows open filling the screen (pled & ml)
But this skin has it all in one!

Only i miss the total playtime in playlist editor window,
and where is the equalizer, i don't see it even when chequed.
Could the weith of pled be adjustable like the left ml view?
Even more cool would be some kind of party mode to this skin ;)

[Paparazzi]

Well... its been a default for me since it was first brought on scene. Am just wondering why no updates have been out for sometime... Ofcourse I know of the lives that on'es got to get behind all this, but then think of our lives :D Don't we all live for this :p

Looking forward to:
1) Having the time/ length just below the playlist ... as in other playlists. I mean, the total time and the time of the selected files!

2) Having the option to see the viz in place of video when a video is not playing.

3) The Max/Min/Tray/Close buttons!
Max to Maximise (fit to full screen).
Min to Shade mode
Tray to Send to tray and...
Close to Close

4) Having an option where I could switch / define plugins choices. For eg. there are users who would rather have the Dynamic Library in place of the Media Library.

Certainly looks like 5.04 is on its way. Would rather have it by the end of the month as I go on vacation early next!

Cheers!

[jojo 544]

I think iPlayTheSpoons is on vacation:cool:

[?uestion]

Not sure if this dude is still working on this, it's been a while but I was wondering if he was going to include a panel for plugins like ml_www so you could access it without a separate browser. I currantly use the "Now Playing" section in the library but that reverts back to now playing every time a new track starts.

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/8/ml_www.th.jpg (http://img30.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img30&image=ml_www.jpg)

Whassup with the progress ion the skin?

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by jojo 544
I think iPlayTheSpoons is on vacation:cool:

correct. sorry guys, but summer beckons. i have been workin on, this though, last week did a big script rewrite so the vis could be properly integrated (yay). ummm, yeah, as for all those feature requests, some cant be done, some have been done, some will be done...i dont feel like going through them all, but youll see

[soljarag]

Sweet skin! I wish I had this for the party I brought my song collection to last weekend, this is exactly what I needed (having the winamp controls in the media library, so I could have the ML take up the whole screen) exelent work!

This skin is as exciting as a new winamp version :D

[mrogers]

Wow, this skin rocks. The clutter of multiple windows has always been the only thing that kind of bothers me about Winamp, and this takes care of that problem. I can't wait for the next version of this to be released--I'm already using it on all of my machines.

I'd like to report a bug that I haven't seen mentioned yet: I can't click and drag in the playlist to select multiple tracks.

Also, it is doing really wierd things when I play certain video files. I tried to play a Divx file (Star Wars - A New Hope), and Winamp suddenly grew to about 3 or 4 times my screen size. It took a minute of resizing and dragging until I got it back to the size it was supposed to be. Then I went to full screen, but when I tried to return to regular mode Winamp crashed. I'm not sure if this second occurance is related to this skin or not, but it's never happened to me before. Other video files, though (Along Came a Spider) worked perfectly fine.

I hope that these bugs can be squashed relatively easily, as I am looking forward to seeing this skin included with Winamp soon!

[D&B]

Originally posted by inthegray
will, it'd be good if you did a screenshot with the classic skin as well... maybe not as pretty, but it'd REALLY show the difference in memory usage, like in my own screenshot (http://www.inthegray.com/winampunlimited/like_the_wind/processes.gif) Daikatana? (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=1999-03-24&res=l) DAIKATANA? (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=1999-11-22&res=l) WHY GOD?

[D&B]

Originally posted by artificeren
First off, this skin will most likely become my main skin. I'm a big fan. Same here.

Originally posted by artificeren
1) I'd like to see the playlist be resizable.

2) It'd be awesome if the video window was the avs window when it's audio that is playing.

3) I don't see any way of opening the eq... Ditto again. Also, in windowshade mode, the ML, EQ and PL buttons dont work. Also, the blue LCD area contained much more information in the Modern skin, such as vis, beat detection, kbps info, and all that Jazz. I miss it in this single GUI skin.

Can't wait to see the final of this skin! Come on spoons!

[iPlayTheSpoons]

heres a screen to show recent progress (finally). sorry for the slowness lately, but ive been very busy. ironically, i should have a bit more time once school starts.

anyway, you can see the eq and avs and all that, and the mazimize button is in...as soon as its more solid ill have a beta

[Mr Jones]

One thing that irks me about the modern skin, and it irks me even more on this huge all in one version is that eject/load button sitting all the way over the other side of the interface, kind of floating in space.

I kind of like my contols grouped together for ease of use.

If it was me, I'd try and pull that button back into the main group somehow, but that's just me.

[mark]

jones speaks! and his words never truer!

[Paparazzi]

iPlayTheSpoons Can we PLEASE have a Total Time below the Playlist too? Please... something I would really like.

Also... what would be the possibility of switching between ML and DL (Dynamic Library)? Maybe, if iPlayTheSpoons is too busy, just maybe, someone would be able to write a small set of instructions. I tried switching plugin names ... no luck :( ... Winamp seemed smarter than me :p

Cheers

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by Paparazzi
iPlayTheSpoons Can we PLEASE have a Total Time below the Playlist too? Please... something I would really like.

Also... what would be the possibility of switching between ML and DL (Dynamic Library)?

I second that! specialy the first one, it's been asked for many times already, and shouldn't be so hard to do.
This feature is a must have!
For now i'll stick to resurgence skin, it has total playlist time displayed and opens winamp in not only one but 2 windows (ml& pled, controls can be shown in pled), but i prefer that over loosing total playlist time ;)
I also can't wait to see the playlist resizable (long titles are not shown completely)

I like this skin a lot, suprised me that no one came up with a all in one window before, i've tried workstation, but it's nothing like this skin at all. Still there is some more work to do on it yet.

When the issues can be fixed, this would replace my default skin:D

:up: :up: :up:

[D&B]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
ironically, i should have a bit more time once school starts. As much as I cant wait for this skin, I understand being busy. We appreciate any work you do, stay well in real life, and well see you when you get some free time!

Originally posted by Paparazzi
Also... what would be the possibility of switching between ML and DL (Dynamic Library)? DEAR GOD YES.

[D&B]

I whipped up these real quick in photoshop, showing a couple ideas:

http://www.hotyams.com/images/full.gif

I've restored the modern skins LCD functionality, and added a collapse button to the ML, so you can collapse the ML away just like the PL. Also, where what in the modern skin is show/hide the video/vis drawer, you can show/hide the bulk of the Single GUI.

http://www.hotyams.com/images/fullnoml.gif
Here is the ML collapsed away.

http://www.hotyams.com/images/collapsed.jpg

Here is the bulk hidden. This would give the coolness of the modern skin and the single gui skin!

About the Idea of having a DL/ML switch implemented, it would be cool but a lot of work, and the DL author is considering a version of his plugin that is a ML plugin, so that would work just fine.

I also like how the Single UI skin's windowshade mode is exactly the same as moderns, except unfortunatly right now the ML/PL buttons are broken.

[jojo 544]

He badrad, i like your ideas.

I made one myself, i like controls on top, and control buttons grouped together instead spread. (i've read this higher in this post already)
I also added the total playtime of playlist.

Your hide/collaps drawers would be cool,
The ML/DL toggle has to be done in the DL plugin i think.

Now lets hope thespoons can spare enough time to work on this skin. If users will keep comming with usefull ideas, it won't be finished soon ;) But it wouldmake the skin the absolute top favourite.

[soljarag]

whats the difference between the DL and the ML?

[jojo 544]

ML is the winamp media library, DL is Dynamic Library, a plugin by Joonas
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179932&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[iPlayTheSpoons]

another progress shot, more lcd info, toggle button for vis/video (still trying to find a good mix of auto and manual show/hide), pl time (ugly still)

i dont know i could really integrate the dynamic library...if it were made into a ml_plug that simply took over the ml, it would just do itself, but as it stands now, its a weak maybe.

and as for all these layout change suggestions...no. im bascially going from the original drawing by steve...so ya.

[Kieran Walker]

Plan on leaving the title bar like that? :D

[inthegray]

that'd be awesome if he did.

[D&B]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
another progress shotLookin good.Can we get another preview version to wet our apetites, or rather quench our thirst?
Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
i dont know i could really integrate the dynamic library...its a weak maybe. AND that plugin is still underdevelopment, and thus, still changing. Upon reconsidering it, I realized its probably best to leave that up to the plugin author.
Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
and as for all these layout change suggestions...no. im bascially going from the original drawing by steve...so ya. Ouch, cold.

I see some of what I was requesting snuck in (More LCD info. Still no beat visualizer?), but as for other changes, let me ask this. Why would every element (PL, Video/Vis) be collapsable but not the ML container?

The PL container should be resizable regardless.

The idea of leaving the arrow that normarly (in modern) show/hides the Video/Vis and have it show hide the entire Single GUI was something I pulled out of my ass and was just brainstorming, while I think it would be pretty cool, I probably wouldnt even ever use it....no hard feelings there.
Originally posted by Kieran Walker
Plan on leaving the title bar like that? :D I wish!

[mrogers]

The updates look great. Can we have another beta soon, please?

[jojo 544]

Yeeees ! , Beta, Beta, Beta :D

there hasn't been one for a long time now
(but its worth the waiting ;)

reel cool skin:up:

[Omega X]

O.O
FINALLY! Some extreme functionality out of Winamp...Gotta watch this project...

[?uestion]

So, what exactly is UNDONE/UN-FUNCTIONAL at this point? Anything anyone could help out with?
Not like I can code or anything, i just ask the questions. Thats my thing.

[mrogers]

Well, there's still a lot of bugs in it. Things almost always go screwy when I try to watch a video, and I randomly can't click and drag on the playlist to select a lot of items. There's still no config drawer or beat visualizer, and the visualizations haven't been integrated into the video screen yet.

I'm looking forward to seeing the next update!

[jojo 544]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
[B] ironically, i should have a bit more time once school starts.[QUOTE]

So i'll shut further comment till then :p

[?uestion]

Has anyone seen this skin called AS Fx21 v1.2?

Skin Here (http://www.1001winampskins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=3356)

There's obviously alot wrong with this (no shade mode, no resizing of ANYTHING outside the ML, no minimize of player, no open file button, no video options without right click etc...) but it seems to implement some of the things iPlay... hasn't. I mean whats up with this guy? Pull your fucking thumb out yo ass son!

Naw, I'm jus fuckin wit ya iPlay... You the man. Now hurry up!!

[D&B]

Wow, that skin is pretty cool.

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by ?uestion
[B]Has anyone seen this skin called AS Fx21 v1.2?

Skin Here (http://www.1001winampskins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=3356)



I didn't,
So there ARE other single window skins, hehe
as i said before, i knew about workstation but not this one. That makes 3: workstation_V1, singleGUI, and now this asfx, but as ?uestion said, there are a lot of malfunctions, specialy the 'not-resising' bothers me.
If Any of you guys know of other one windowed skins i would LOVE to know about...But i think i'll stick around till the spoons gets back to work on singleGUI, since i like this one the most so far.

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by mrogers
Well, there's still a lot of bugs in it. Things almost always go screwy when I try to watch a video, and I randomly can't click and drag on the playlist to select a lot of items. There's still no config drawer or beat visualizer, and the visualizations haven't been integrated into the video screen yet.

I'm looking forward to seeing the next update!


that was at the last beta...as screen shots have shown, weve come a long way since then (i think everything you mentioned has been adressed to some extent). well, theres a deadline type thigng now, so i will be working with a bit more energy. ive been wanting to post a beta, but have to iron out a lot of things...almost all of the functionality is there, just give me a little more time/

[KriTenKs]

What if Steve gives badrads ideas a thumbs up? Will you then add thse features? If so, it would be great

[STanger]

since iPlay has a deadline this soon after the release of 5.04 I think the single_gui skin is gonna be included with 5.04a or maybe 5.05 :D

[iPlayTheSpoons]

heres a BETA (http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/SingleGUI-10005.wal?)

well, its buggy, and stuff, but there it is in all its glory. no button to switch between vid/vis yet (use the "view" menu)..and for some reason, the vis will only show every other time you open its drawer..., and other stuff...most of which i know about...so, this is just to play with. Hope everyone is happy :)

[artificeren]

The new version is coming along nicely.

One bug I should mention:
The maximize button doesn't work right when the startmenu/taskbar is on the top of the screen instead of the default of bottom. The winamp window ends up underneath the taskbar. Many apps have this problem, and I use "Shove-it (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=760558#post760558)", an app that moves application windows around when they are under the taskbar, in the general case to fix this issue, however Shove-it doesn't work on Winamp for me for whatever reason. So, please make sure you use the correct coordinates to go to the top of the visible screen, not just 0,0.

[D&B]

Thanks for an updated beta.

I take it that since you know its buggy you dont want bug reports yet. Let us know when you do :)

[STanger]

iPlay thanks for taking on this project..I'm looking forward to it's completion :D

[jojo 544]

Thanx 4 the beta :)

With the bugs out it will rock.!

[?uestion]

Hay jojo 544, Where can I get this Workstation_v1 you spoke about?

[spamcut]

Hey! I love this single ui skin. I've been looking for something like this for a LONG time. I do have one request, though I completely understand if it's too much to implement. I would love to see on option which could move the playlist and visualization sections from the right side of the skin to just under the media library instead. The problem is, most of the song titles in the playlist section are too long and don't fit the display. If the playlist just was under the media library (above the main player section), it would be wider than it is long and would be wide enough to fit almost any title. The visualization/video section could be to the right of this.

Thanks!

[D&B]

Originally posted by spamcut
The problem is, most of the song titles in the playlist section are too long and don't fit the display. Thus my suggestions that the divider between the ML and PL be resizable, and that the ML should me collapsable like the PL.

[UUL]

Tnx for beta iPLay, it's coming along very nice :up:

ml_ipod is way cool! :D

[mark]

kickass!

[jojo 544]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ?uestion
Where can I get this Workstation_v1 you spoke about? /QUOTE]

I don't find it on the skin pages anymore, it must have been taken off. I don't like it anyway, it's not even close to single GUI, but if you realy want it maybe i can mail it?

[?uestion]

Nah, if it's a load of garbage I'll do without. Thanx though

[mark e]

how to use plylist instead of media library....

[?uestion]

So, no prgress on this one?

[lunarboy1]

I'd like to know what's going on with this one, it looks really really promising...

[mark]

spoonboy's been gone for 2 weeks! :igor:

[Teh Roxor]

Wow, this is awesome. I had Winamp arranged like this anyway, and this hepls me keep it together.

[Koopa]

Wow, the beta is awesome. Looking foward to final. ;)

[CloneUK]

Hey... just wanted to say this skin is great... just what I was looking for... keep up the good work. Can't wait for the final version.

[L9NUX]

Finally, a skin that works well in my carputer. I've got a 7" touchscreen and I've been looking for something that I can just fill the screen with so this is perfect!

Looking forward to the final release!

[lunarboy1]

another update? maybe? just a little? please? maybe just a tease? something to impress everyone in the dorm?

[Wombert]

This Plugin is awesome, thanks a lot :)
But make the right column resizable pleeaaaase :) I use playlists a lot, and the PL area is too small atm.
Anyway, great work!

-edit-
There's an annoying bug: when changing to the next track, Winamp steals the focus. This is happening both when just non-focused (i.e. I clicked on another window to bring it up on top) and when minimized. It just pops up as soon as the next track begins.

[jojo 544]

Begining to wonder if iPlayTheSpoons will ever get back:rolleyes:
This skin realy should be finished, its one of the best i've ever seen

[J_Darnley]

Is there still no work from Mr. spoons? Is he still working on it? It'll be the best ever skin if it gets finished. I use it all the time now, its an incredible skin. :)

Originally posted by Wombert
-edit-
There's an annoying bug: when changing to the next track, Winamp steals the focus. This is happening both when just non-focused (i.e. I clicked on another window to bring it up on top) and when minimized. It just pops up as soon as the next track begins.
I have that same problem. Just leave the video pane open/down, that will prevent it from popping back up. I don't suppose anyone knows why it does this?

[Wombert]

Originally posted by J_Darnley
Is there still no work from Mr. spoons? Is he still working on it? It'll be the best ever skin if it gets finished. I use it all the time now, its an incredible skin. :)


I have that same problem. Just leave the video pane open/down, that will prevent it from popping back up. I don't suppose anyone knows why it does this?

Ah. That fixed it, thanks. I think this behavior is due to this video window, as there's another issue: I'm using the Winamp TV plugin to watch TV in Winamp (obvious, eh? :D). The TV image usually occupies the small window in the upper right of the GUI. If I click the "Switch Video Screen Mode" button on the right, the Media Library section becomes hidden, and the small video area closes and I have the large video window. As soon as I switch to another channel (the TV plugin uses a playlist of channels), the small video area opens and won't disappear anymore, even if I click the hide button (but there's no content inside, it's just plain gray, not even buttons there).

I just found the reason for this defect. If the video window is hidden, and you (or winamp) selects another track in the playlist, the entire window is re-drawn. You can see that there's something wrong by hiding the video window and selecting another track from the playlist - it will jump down by the size of the (hidden) video window and flicker for a fraction of a second. This behavior is not there if the video window is opened. Unfortunately, the scrolling wheel is only usable within the playlist window if the video window is HIDDEN.

I just hope iPlayTheSpoons finds some time to fix this and adds the possibility to resize the playlist/video area soon, as I really love this skin.

[?uestion]

iPlayTheSpoons has given up on the community. The last I heard, he had a mental breakdown as is dwelling in the hills of Scotland going by the name Shamoo Shebaz. Some dynamic young talent may have to take up the challenge of finishing his important work. Sad times.

[The Rhino]

people just hold on, im sure spoons has been working on the skin when he can, it might take a while to finish this skin because like with most skins the closer you get to completion of the skin the longer any changes take so just be patient im sure he hasnt given up on the community. ?uestion dont try and be funny and make up stuff it only will discourage a skinner/coder and make your wait even longer

[jojo 544]

Hold on Rhino, what ?uestion sais might just be true...:p

Nah, no kiddin' we haven't heard from him a while tho.
Anyway i don't think he should be discouraged by a post like this, maybe it was just the intention to encourage him this way ;)
I like ?uestion's sence of humor, as a fact i had a real hilaric time reading that post:D

[?uestion]

?uestion dont try and be funny and make up stuff it only will discourage a skinner/coder and make your wait even longer

Are you kiddin me? Get off your lil soap box for just a minute and pull your head out your ass. Its obvious I'm joking and if you can't see that your a bigger loser than you made yourself out to be. Get a clue. I doubt iPlayTheSpoons is as sensitive as you so obvioulsy are sweetheart, and would get "discouraged" over some random comment from a guy he's never met, so don't go getting your brand new frilly panties all in a twist. Salut.

[saivert]

I managed to crash Winamp, when fiddling with the Video and Visualization options in the View menu. Fix this in SingleGUI??

[iPlayTheSpoons]

getting there

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
getting there

These smal two word post is like a bright and shiny sunrise after a long cloudy period.

Happy to hear you're back on it :D

[billyvnilly]

Originally posted by jojo 544
These smal two word post is like a bright and shiny sunrise after a long cloudy period.

Happy to hear you're back on it :D
yes it brings a sigh of relief to me as well...ahhh

:up::up: for iPlayTheSpoons

[Wombert]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
getting there

yeeeeeeeeeehaaaw... thanks man, you're awesome!

[saivert]

When is there a new BETA?

[Mr Jones]

Stop being so impatient , It'll be done when it's done.

[PulseDriver]

I can't belive Norwegians are so demanding??!!!!! Where is the BETA!!???!

:D

[saivert]

Sorry. We Norwegians are ususally very patient. Just look at our streets (irony). I was just bored, and played with the [ b ] and [ i ] and [ u ] vbulletin Tags.
Didn't mean to shout or anything.

[Mr Jones]

Originally posted by PulseDriver
I can't belive Norwegians are so demanding??!!!!!

Are your women folk as demanding?, could be fun...:p

[PulseDriver]

lol, they are indeed..

[Mr Jones]

/books flight.....

[dlinkwit27]

where the fuck are all these people comming from? half the people who've posted in this thread I've never heard of :p

[mrogers]

It's such an awesome idea that it's making us lurkers come out of hiding and start posting ;)

An update to this would be sweet...can't wait!

[Logy]

i think next month, it get a life to do... be patient
Peace brothers...

[saivert]

Yes indeed! We all got lifes, or did you think the Winamp Forums hosted bots only??

[ohhjebus]

You've made great progress on this skin, I think it will take over my winamp when you finish it.

[Logy]

Yes of course, if you programmed that... it live up ever no humans in worlds (i know from unkwown program show, may be Screensaver on this year)

[?uestion]

What the hell did he just say?

[dlinkwit27]

it would take of his winamp if it was programmed to, but it will never live up to the humans of this world (so says a TV show). Perhaps this skin will be a ScreenSaver this year (an award type thing for TechTV i think).

i think that is what he said.

[saivert]

Pretty sad..that we need decipherers on the forums to understand the simplest things to say.

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
getting there

????????

Getting where exactly, i wonder again.(back to scottland hills):rolleyes:
I'm about to give up hope on this skin ever being finished, but i'll just hold on a little longer. heh:blah:

If you haven't got time to work on it, just send us another new hope bringing post, like the one before;)

[D&B]

Originally posted by jojo 544
I'm about to give up hope on this skin ever being finishedIt'll get done, just be patient.

For gods sake people leave this thread alone. If you want to wax idiotic, go do so in General Discussions.

Can we please let the next post in this thread be from spoons?

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by badrad
It'll get done, just be patient.
I just like to hear that from the man himself, is that so idiot?
Originally posted by badrad
Can we please let the next post in this thread be from spoons
As i said, i really wish he did some posting, i'm sure that would stop the bitching, but if he doesn't what else can we do meantime :D
So next post in this case (unfortunaly) is mine again:blah:

[steak]

That collapsable meadia library has to go in. Most of my mp3s don't have id3 tags and as a result i don't usually use the media library.

Besides i have winamp just running with my music collection and people just search through using F3. I tried to get them to use the ML but non eof them could work it out....:) So i just stick to the playlist.

It's a shame because i could really use something like this :(

But good work man :up: :)

[Nubile Bunny]

First off, this skin is AWESOME. If it gives you any idea, I just discovered this thread TODAY, and I read through the whole thing...every single post. I usually never do that, lol. Anyway, I love the idea, and so far it looks incredible.

Definetely some bugs though. I would have to agree with resizeable (via dragging) playlist. It's just not quite wide enough. Also, no one seems to have mentioned this, but for me the configuration window won't go away. If I maximize Winamp, it covers it up, but when I minimize it is there. (Has the EQ, Options, and Color Themes tabs.) Obviously (and unfortunately) this renders the skin unusable to me because I can't have that on my screen constantly. If I try to uncheck the "Equalizer" in the context menus or hit the close button the window itself it will not go away and remains on top of any window I have open!

I cannot stress enough that you have done such a fantastic job with this skin. I cannot wait for the final edition, at which point it will definetely become my permanent default skin. It is everything I've wanted in a Winamp skin. :-) Please finish!

~ Nubile Bunny

[leechbite]

hi spoons, i dunno if somebody though of this already but i have an idea. why not make all the components attachable/detachable and restore the original config drawers.
this way by detaching the ML and PL you are back to the original Modern Skin. and attaching back the ML and PL your back to the SingleGUI. that would be very cool imo.

just an idea. good work btw. :D

[Nubile Bunny]

Originally posted by leechbite
hi spoons, i dunno if somebody though of this already but i have an idea. why not make all the components attachable/detachable and restore the original config drawers.
this way by detaching the ML and PL you are back to the original Modern Skin. and attaching back the ML and PL your back to the SingleGUI. that would be very cool imo.

just an idea. good work btw. :D

I think if you want the detachable windows, then just use the modern skin. The whole point of this skin is a "single" UI.

~ Nubile Bunny

[leechbite]

but you have the detachable windows, you wont need the singleUI. you have the default modern skin and the single UI in one skin. well, just a thought. :)

[shakey_snake]

What you're proposing leechbyte, doesn't really make any sense to me either. Your idea seems counter-intuative to the who project.

Now Spoons, I know this isn't in the original artwork in the first post, but I was wondering what you guys think of this: Since there is a ton of song-ticker room, how about putting a time remaining ticker next to the time played display. It could be in a smaller font (like maybe the same size as the songticker) and then the two would trade places if clicked on (as in the negative would be the bigger and on the left side, with a smaller positve display next to it).
So it would look like this:
2:13 -1:21


and then when clicked it would become:
-1:21 2:13

Keep up the good work!

[UUL]

it does makes sense, why have two skin wich look the same but just have a different layout, that's the same as having the stick mode as a seperate skin (sort of :p)

[shakey_snake]

Now if SingleUI was integrated into the modern skin like stickmode (by clicking on the Triangle button) I could see what you mean (but I don't think this is possible?!? (not sure)), but not how you originally described it.

[UUL]

it would require somewhat of coding, but isn't impossible

[Nubile Bunny]

Originally posted by shakey_snake
What you're proposing leechbyte, doesn't really make any sense to me either. Your idea seems counter-intuative to the who project.

Now Spoons, I know this isn't in the original artwork in the first post, but I was wondering what you guys think of this: Since there is a ton of song-ticker room, how about putting a time remaining ticker next to the time played display. It could be in a smaller font (like maybe the same size as the songticker) and then the two would trade places if clicked on (as in the negative would be the bigger and on the left side, with a smaller positve display next to it).
So it would look like this:
2:13 -1:21


and then when clicked it would become:
-1:21 2:13

Keep up the good work!

I like the idea of the double time-ticker too.

Also, I am an AVID user of DrO's Jump to File Extra plug-in. (Press 'Q' while highlighting the song you want to play next.) For whatever reason, that plug-in doesn't work at all in the playlist of this skin. That definetely needs fixed. :-)

~ Nubile Bunny

[lunarboy1]

Originally posted by Nubile Bunny
I like the idea of the double time-ticker too.

Also, I am an AVID user of DrO's Jump to File Extra plug-in. (Press 'Q' while highlighting the song you want to play next.) For whatever reason, that plug-in doesn't work at all in the playlist of this skin. That definetely needs fixed. :-)

~ Nubile Bunny

That probably doesn't work because some of the magic DrO had to use to catch the 'q' keypress and use the actual Playlist window to get which song is selected. Basically, I haven't the foggiest idea how to explain it, but I understand why he'd need it to be a separate window.

I'm sure it can't be that hard of a fix though ;).

Brian

[Nubile Bunny]

Any updates on this skin? I fear it has been forgotten...

~ Nubile Bunny

[jojo 544]

Originally posted by Nubile Bunny
I fear it has been forgotten...
~ Nubile Bunny
Ssssssst !
You can think so, but please DON't spell it! Some people absolutely don't like that:confused:
(read higher in this threat about the scotland hills and screensaver joke's)
We are forced to think positive :)

At least i haven't forgotten about it, and i have faith that some day (whenever that may be...), we'll be able to enjoy this wonderfull skin ;)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Sorry for the utter lack of updates, guys. I have had an exceedingly busy semester this time around, which I did not really anticipate. Ummm, I can't even offer a time frame of completion at this point, but I can assure you the project is far from forgotten. Once an abndance of free time presents itself, this is at the top of my to-do list. Dont fret...

[Wombert]

That's awesome news, iPlayTheSpoons, thank you very much for informing us of what's going on. Continue to work on it whenever you have the time to do so. We all really appreciate the great effort you have put into creating this skin, and we all are eager to see a final version, but I believe everyone here can bring up the necessary patience ;) Thanks again and Good Speed on your studies!

[hazarrd]

That's the only skin I have :). Deleted the rest. iPlayTheSpoons, thank you very much for all your hard work. I have a busy semester too, so I feel your pain. Good luck with your studies.

[Nubile Bunny]

Indeed, thanks for the update. Good luck with school and hopefully we'll be able to see this finished during your break!

~ Nubile Bunny

[Wildrose-Wally]

I don't study and don't feel your pain, but do finnish the skin, ok? It looks to me time is running out to get it eventually included in the winamp client, especially with the latest developments at Nullsoft.

[saivert]

Yes yes! Let the man work without interruption. Maybe it then will be finished till x-mas, so I can put it under the tree! :-)

[Nubile Bunny]

Originally posted by wildrose-wally
I don't study and don't feel your pain, but do finnish the skin, ok? It looks to me time is running out to get it eventually included in the winamp client, especially with the latest developments at Nullsoft.

What developments at Nullsoft?

~ Nubile Bunny

[saivert]

Yeah! Nullsoft has explicitely told the world that they are going to slow down on the development of the Winamp Media Playback and management software. They just got to rest now okay. And I feel the pain of iPlayTheSpoons too. He got to have some rest, man! Peace out...

[dkordik]

http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=138565

^ check out the this plugin that places album art from the mp3 tag into the video window. It works beautifully with the single UI skin.

On that note, I'd like to request that you make the separator between Video window and the playlist adjustable instead of just collapsable.

Keep up the amazing skin.

[deeder7001]

i'm using this skin now. freakin' awsome. keep up the good work iplay...

[deeder7001]

i noticed that when the song changes(especially when listening to shoutcast) or when i press "next" the ML and the playlist do some sort of a flickering type of thing. is that a bug or is it supposed to do that? either way it's kind of annoying. and when i press play or next from my keyboard(hotkeys) the whole skin comes up which is also annoying. i still think this skin is awsome despite a couple of bugs/annoyances.

[Wombert]

deeder, open the video/vis section, and the bug will disappear

[deeder7001]

sweet. thanks.

[jaffoon]

Trying to download the beta copy but website not responding, any other links guys?

[jojo 544]

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/SingleGUI-10005.wal?

I think was the latest beta, posted on 8/5/2004

[jaffoon]

Thats a dead link :(

[deeder7001]

no it's not.

[Artist 3D]

This skin is amazing! I havn't seen any bugs yet... except there's this one problem (not that I do care about it so much), but those AVS effects don't play in the video window, but somewhere else... not clear what da heck is going on there...

-edit-

Oh, no, and I opened my mouth... There are planty of bugs when it's about video and open windows... I mean... Well... about the video I just don't know where to start from, but it doesn't work well at all... About the open windows, i talk about the equalizer (for example). I close it with its X button, and it doesn't take off the V check from the menu... as if it's still open...

Well, keep on the good work, I say... I know how much pain in the ass is this. It's a good start though. :)

[saivert]

I would be happy to host this skin so people dont have to wait for the (possibly overloaded) servers at AngelFire to wake up and smell the coffee. I hate AngelFire. It's almost the same as Tripod (both services owned by Lycos) which banned me for several months after a bug in my CSS (stylesheet) or SSI tags prevented the Ads on the page from showing. Hey I didn't even know since I used a different browser which this bug didn't show up on. F*** lame azz Lycos. H*** on earth!!!

[Nubile Bunny]

Bumpity bump bump

Any progress on this?

[jojo 544]

To all who are still waiting for the final release of this skin:

First post in this threat by steve :
Originally posted by steve
Hey Guys,

I spent some time mocking up a version of the Winamp skin that's a single UI, i.e. no separate Windows.

Anyway, we'd love to have anyone in the community who has the time to actually build this skin.

Here's are some mocks of what the skin would look like.

http://www.cockos.com/~steve/photos/single/librarymode.png
http://www.cockos.com/~steve/photos/single/videovismode.png

Any takers?
So I play the spoons did some intressting work, but ...
Make your own conclusions :D

[Artist 3D]

Looking at LibraryMode (http://www.cockos.com/~steve/photos/single/librarymode.png) I think, it'll look better if the main part (the time slider and the play/pause/forward etc. buttons) will be under the playlist only or between on the video view, and by that you give more space to the media library part, and only when the video view takes the whole space, then it'll be that long.

[jojo 544]

I've posted a screenshot with control buttons and slider ON TOP earlier, but i don't think there will be any changes in the next 5 years from how it is now ;)

[Artist 3D]

The point is not weither it's up or down but weither it takes the whole screen length or only part of it (video screen length.)

[jsrlepage]

okay. i'm a noob to these forums, but i might as well ask anyway.


does anyone know how to disable the focus request of this skin? remember the complete redraw and "setfocus" or something?

[sharifsucks]

can anyone tell me how to use custom colors on this skin? i tried somebody's sugestion at : http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1400564#post1400564

but it didnt seem to work

thanks

[inthegray]

maybe someone with the free time can get in contact with spoons, convince him to hand over some files, and take over the project?

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by sharifsucks
can anyone tell me how to use custom colors on this skin? i tried somebody's sugestion at : http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1400564#post1400564

but it didnt seem to work

thanks
You have to change the name ie. replace Winamp_5_single_UI with SingleGUI-10005 for them to work with the latest version.

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by inthegray
maybe someone with the free time can get in contact with spoons, convince him to hand over some files, and take over the project?

if someone was so inclined, they have the source for the one maki script ive writen for this skin included in every beta so far. the only thing theyd get from me is a more done version of it.

now, as i have said 50 fucking times, this project is not dead, and im planning on resuming work on it once winter break starts next week. i highly doubt most of the people bitching for updates are readily capable of finishing it (ey, jojo you smart ass). so, if anyone would like to swoop in and magically finish this in a few hours, be my guest...

but its not like im getting paid to do this, and its on the top of my fucking list of shit to do for a seemingly dying player, so just give me a break

[jojo 544]

Yeah right, i think i've heard simular explonations before...

edit: But don't get me wrong, I apreciate the efforts you make, but it would be better if someone else with a little more time to spear could finish this.
i'm not dying to get this skin as soon as possible, infact i gave up on it some time ago already, it's not realy intresting me much anymore.
I Just like see where it's going to, if it ever will :)

[Mr Jones]

I think it's time to cool this thread off, Spoons has given his explanation of what's happening and I see little point in having people keep bitching about when it's coming.

It'll be done when Spoons says it's done, give the guy a break ok.

Note to spoons, this is your baby now, let me know if you want this thread re-opening at any time in the future to add updates, or feel free to start a new one when ever you have something to show.

*closed until further notice*

[Mr Jones]

Unlocked at the request of iPlayTheSpoons, I'm sure he'll have something to say shortly on the matter :)

[Naamloos]

Leave i play the spoons alone jojo. If you want it so bad, do it yourself. there are enough tutorials around to do it.

[Mr Jones]

Have you been waiting since I locked this over a month ago to post that? :)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

SingleGUI - new beta (http://www.angelfire.com/comics/easydoesit/SingleGUI-10006.wal?)

well, i completely rewrote the entire scripting set up, top to bottom, and really made things a lot smoother. it still has bug, but i think this fixes a lot of the functionality problems.

Well, i hope this tides you all over for a while. thanks to the rewrite, its gunna be a lot easier to integrate the resizable playlist width...so thats next on the list of things to do.

oh ya, right click the button that makes the video/vis big/small to switch between the two.

[saivert]

Yeah.. awesome! Now it finally works. You got rid of that glitch when changing songs and the video was hidden (it jumped down for a split second and caused Winamp to lag). And I can now activate visualizations without them being created in their own window (without a frame).

Maybe you can put the beat visualization from default Modern Skin at the top, right below the menubar.

Other "everything in one window" players like WiMP and iTunes usually clutter up the desktop with a lot of information, but Winamp with Single GUI skin really manages to present the information in an easy to swallow manner.

And I'm glad you changed the window title to "Winamp" which is much better.

I think this skin when finished will be bundled with Winamp in the future.

[jojo 544]

Sorry if i pissed anyone off, just wanted to speed things up, (if i could code i sure would have done it myself, so i'm not so smart after all, but i still believe i've made a few good points tho). But hey, i'll leave you alone now. I don't want this thread to be closed again ;)

[Koopa]

Well done. This Beta runs very well for me.

I have just one request, the ability to hide the menu bar (File, Play, ...).

You've done a great job, iPlayTheSpoons.

[mark]

looks good. :up:

[Artist 3D]

Yey! new version! :)

And here's a tinny bug repport:

1. I always like winamp to take as much as it can from my screen, but when i choose to see video, and change between 1X to 2X modes etc., it makes the window even larger.

2. I've also checked the AVS plugins, and it uses it in a new window. Well, one thing i'll ask: why not using the video window? the other thing is that it's under the main window, and if winamp's window is all over the screen, u can't see the animation. bummer.

3. This is not a bug, and even something i've said before, i think: There's no reason the main part of the window will be that big (unless the video is in a big-size mode or whatever u call it) - It's a waste of space. My advice is to put it upon the playing list or upon the library list (aka full left or full right) unless in video-big-size mode, then there's no other choice but putting it under the video and that widely streched.

After checking something back with winamp, i've found that the AVS did jump in the end to the video window. Why didn't it do at 1st time?

Another point: closing a window like the EQ doesn't remove the V from the list (yes, it's again like the one i said before).

And again, thank you very much for the new version. May your versions get better and better like a good old wine! ;)

[iPlayTheSpoons]

Originally posted by Artist 3D
1. I always like winamp to take as much as it can from my screen, but when i choose to see video, and change between 1X to 2X modes etc., it makes the window even larger.

2. I've also checked the AVS plugins, and it uses it in a new window. Well, one thing i'll ask: why not using the video window? the other thing is that it's under the main window, and if winamp's window is all over the screen, u can't see the animation. bummer.

3. This is not a bug, and even something i've said before, i think: There's no reason the main part of the window will be that big (unless the video is in a big-size mode or whatever u call it) - It's a waste of space. My advice is to put it upon the playing list or upon the library list (aka full left or full right) unless in video-big-size mode, then there's no other choice but putting it under the video and that widely streched. grtg


1. Yeah, a bug thats been in there since i first threw the video screen in...gotta figure out a way to cancell that out

2. Can you reproduce this problem? I thought i had gotten rid of all instances when this could happen...
[post] ahh, i found one way, will soon be fixed

3. huh?

[Naamloos]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
Have you been waiting since I locked this over a month ago to post that? :)

you can tell from the time stamps :p

[Ultanium]

I just found this thread thanks to Mr Jones from a post I had made in the classic skins forum. IPlayTheSpoons, this is some very nice work! I run a small low power radio station using Winamp and the Sound Solution plugin, and had posted trying to find a skin that would work in full screen mode. Your skin almost perfectly fits the request, the only thing I could use is larger buttons for my touch screen monitor - maybe a BB version for big buttons??? :)

A number of smaller stations and netcasters will find this skin VERY useful, keep up the great work!

Ultanium
AM640 THE CAT!
Cat Spring Texas

[billyvnilly]

if you are familiar with Dynamic Library (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179932), you would know what i am talking about. you could have a dragable line, save (100px about...or whatever min value) for the left aligned media library and 100px for the right aligned playlist. it would snapto opposite side when you drag the line to the min width value of the opposite component.

thankyou iplaythespoons for the skin.

sorry iplaythespoons, i read it earlier in the day, and just got around to posting, i forgot what u posted, my bad...oops

[iPlayTheSpoons]

PLEASE READ before you comment

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
thanks to the rewrite, its gunna be a lot easier to integrate the resizable playlist width...so thats next on the list of things to do.

[saivert]

Weird question
I didn't know what he meant with the third question either.. hmm.. I think the layout you currenly have is great. It may be possible he ment that the area were the Media Library is put could have been slightly smaller. This will be possible when you can drag the bar between the ML and the Playlist Editor.

Note on the checkmark not vanishing
The checkmark does vanish when closing the Configuration window while the Equalizer tab is open. But if you select any other tab (Configuration and Color Themes) the checkmark also vanishes since the Equalizer isn't visible anymore. This is because iPLayTheSpoons uses a lot of script code from the default Modern Skin (it is in fact based on this skin). And the default Modern Skin also did this when changing tabs in the drawer.

[ampewin]

What can I say... That's a really great skin :)

I found some bugs I would like to report:

1. When you switch to SingleGUI from the WinampModern skin and you have the equalizer open then it's not closeable in SingleGUI. In order to work as expected you have to have the equalizer closed before you switch skins.

3.The vis options menu doesn't appear to work

2.Sometimes the video/vis window is docked sometimes it not. I won't go to much details because I still haven't figured out what causes but it appears to have something to do with the default WinampModern skin options

I would like also to mention something else. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have SingleGUI to keep it's settings in a seperate place than winamp modern skin? For example by clicking "re-attach video window" in SingleGUI nothing happened but when I switched back to WinampModern the video window was attached while I had it detached.

I guess that many of singleGUI bugs are caused by the fact that singleGUI shares settings with the standard winampModern skin. And since propably noone is going to start with a clean winamp.ini and studio.xnf file they may experience problems. So my humble suggestion is to make singleGUI completely independent from WinampModern.

Of course I could be wrong and again thanks for the hard work you put on that skin

[Artist 3D]

Originally posted by iPlayTheSpoons
3. huh?

I hope it'll help me explain it (http://adiabinun.250free.com/winamp.html)

It's with extra ;)

[saivert]

When I restart Winamp with SingleGUI selected as current skin, the window doesn't remember it's size. It is reset to a very tall, but narrow window.

[Cianca]

Hi Iplaythespoons ;)

your skin is one of the most amazing thing that i ever saw in winamp!!!!

i hope in a future to see a working version of winamp with this skin (fully working), PLEX and ml_ipod..... that will be WINAMP perfect edition!!!


i have a bug :(

when i stay in video mode i can't use the keyboard shortcuts on playlist window....

see this ---> http://cianca.altervista.org/immagini/Winamp-JTFE-Debug/SingleUIVideoModeSmallWithLibrary.JPG

1) library mode and video window attached over the playlist

2) select a song on playlist

3) hit 'q' nothing happen... hit 'canc' nothing happen :(

I hide the video window and all return fully working :|

bye ;)

[Cianca]

ah sorry

PS1: AVS visualizer doesn't attach anymore in winamp

PS2: feature request: milkdrop support


re-bye :)