This ought to spawn some controversy.

[N8theGR8]

In your opinion, what is the single greatest video game of all time. :D

[Vie]

We have a Games forum you know, and at least 2 threads there asking the same question.

[ScorLibran]

Pre-1980: Defender

1980-1990: Super Mario Brothers

Post-1990: MechWarrior II


Best of All Time: MechWarrior II

[Mr Jones]

We have a games forum for a reason, be sure to use it.

[Myxomatosis]

I liked Space Invaders.

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

Holy asking an old question in the wrong forum then having it moved to the right forum, Batman!

And to answer the question... Metroid Prime, followed closely by Ocarina Of Time.

[OutlawJim]

Kingdom Hearts :) woooo :)

[Mr Jones]

Depends on what criteria you want to base the 'best game' argument on.

From my point of view, remember that's all it is.....

Longevity, now if a best game were based on longevity, then I might have to say Lords of Midnight and it's sequel Doomdarks Revenge, what are they you all cry? a couple of turn based stratergy/war games from around 1984, I played them to death on my old 8bit home comp, I then played them on the amiga and stuff when people started writing their own versions of them, then on the pc and now some guy has written a great conversion of both of them for the GBA, so I can carry them in my pocket and start up the war of the solstice whenever I like, so 20+ years of gameplay is not bad...

Now if you wanted playability, a game that you can pick up anytime of day and get straight into it , then I'd say Doom, everyone knows how to play it, it's on just about every format out there, it's easy to play , great stuff.

If you were talking about out and out solid gameplay that keeps you hooked, then I'd go with GTA Vice City, I don't think I've ever played a game as much so often, kept me occupied for months, and during that time not a single other game made it to my console, just the sheer open ended nature of it made it a joy to play, some days I'd knock out a few missons, others I'd just drive around doing mad stunts, others I'd spend looking for packages etc etc etc. Solid..

For Happy Wow Great Amazing memories, I'd say FFVII, a revalation in gameplaying at the time, stunning visuals combined with gripping plot, a game where I just wanted to see, do, collect, meet everything and everyone , I was quite sad when it ended.

So much to choose from it's hard to pick an all time fave.

[mark]

FF7

poor aeris.... :(

[Vie]

Best "Flawed" game ever.

Mafia

Made the GTA series look like a joke, but it lacked GTA's Freedom. You could do a mission, and then do things, but you could not just go out and do nothing, You could not just drive around for the fun of it. You had to do missions.

It did have Free-ride, but that had its own flaws. You could not go into buildings (ok APPART from Yellow Petes) and walk around. Plus nothing realy happened in it, you just drove around.

[Bilbo Baggins]

These threads never spawn controversy.

[whiteflip]

The Legend of Zelda.

[mysterious_w]

Sonic 2

[Myxomatosis]

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
These threads never spawn controversy.

Fuck you! I don't agree, bitch.;)

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by Myxomatosis
Fuck you! I don't agree, bitch.;)

Fuck you bitch! I do agree! :D

[Mr Jones]

I'll ban the lot of you fuckers in a minute if you don't stop flaming each other.

Oh, by the way, best game evvah, Pac Man, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, fuckers.

[Myxomatosis]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
I'll ban the lot of you fuckers in a minute if you don't stop flaming each other.

Oh, by the way, best game evvah, Pac Man, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, fuckers.

http://www.aire-rescue.com/sat/images/sad.jpg

:)

[whiteflip]

I would love a version of Duck Hunt where the dog flys around and the duck laughs at you.

[devils night]

Best game of all time IMO is Chrono cross

[Bilbo Baggins]

You are wrong/

[Mr Jones]

Look out, it's some controversy :eek:

[devils night]

lol ok then how about street fighter 2 :D

[Vie]

..I'll pretend you did not say that.

[mark]

Originally posted by devils night
Best game of all time IMO is Chrono cross CHRONO TRIGGER!

not that i should expect anyone to even remember one of the greatest RPGs of all time...:rolleyes:

[Myxomatosis]

Originally posted by Nobby Nobbs
CHRONO TRIGGER!

not that i should expect anyone to even remember one of the greatest RPGs of all time...:rolleyes:

Affirmative. Cross sucks the big 1.

[Bilbo Baggins]

There is no such thing as the best game ever.

[koolaidparty]

Paperboy, bitches. :up:

::Edit:: By the way, Skate or Die was hot.

[shakey_snake]

Half-Life.
Revolutionized shooters.

[Mr Jones]

In what way?

[koolaidparty]

..Half Life revolutionized crappy cardboard box cars.

Now Castle Wolfenstein 3D revolutionized shooters.

[Lapikas]

First System shock. Now theres a game! :up:

[shakey_snake]

In what way?
1. interaction with other friendly characters,
2.emphasis on storytelling,
3.the completely mod-able concept,
4.finding a reason for your on screen displays (your suit)
5.Not randomly finding things on the ground (items are purposly placed)
6. the grunt's team tactics
7. the mixing of puzzles and shooting
so on and so forth....

How sad it is that we dont remember things so little ago!
(My guess is jones was just setting up to troll me)

[Mr Jones]

Originally posted by shakey_snake

(My guess is jones was just setting up to troll me)

Nope, I've never played the thing, I was just asking for some clarification on your broad statement.

You can't make such a all encompasing statment to the world without having a point of view to back it up.


If you think something is the best/the suck, then say why.


Sorry if you think you were being set up to be trolled, nice to know that's what people think.

[xenosomething]

Originally posted by shakey_snake
2.emphasis on storytelling


i recently played HL for the first time...and while it was actually pretty good, it had absolutely NO emphasis on storytelling like you say.

that game hardly any story whatsoever. i don't know what pc fps storyline standards were back then, but they must of had zero story for HL to be considered revolutionary.

[koolaidparty]

You were supposed to pay attention in English class!

[Myxomatosis]

Maybe it wasn't so good at storyline but what was really cool(HL was aclaimed for this) was the beginning. It really submerged you into the game while riding on the cart thing. All the small details and the works of the plant, etc.

[shakey_snake]

i recently played HL for the first time...and while it was actually pretty good, it had absolutely NO emphasis on storytelling like you say.
I'd agree, if you define storytelling as cut-scenes, but play a pre halfLife FPS and see how it contrasts. They were basically like:1. run 2.kill stuff.
something important I didn't mention before was the HV suit training. That was new.

[xenosomething]

but still, storytelling was an unremarkable aspect of HL...not even worth mentioning really.

and the only reason i even said anything was because you put that particular one in bold letters.:p

[shakey_snake]

I put it in bold for the very same reason you are having such a struggle with understanding what I'm getting at:
Before half-life the plot-line either wasn't important to videogame makers (go rescue someone captured by an enemy) or not integated into the gameplay (think Doom 1: here's a shotgun, have at it!).
But now it's something you expect from a game. as you've already claimed: i don't know what pc fps storyline standards were back then
Revolutionary (my original claim) doesn't have to be the best ever, it just has to be influencial and original. Thus is half-life's story telling.

life tip: I understand you're most likely young, but do your best to free yourself from the time and place in which you live when trying to be objective.

[koolaidparty]

Originally posted by shakey_snake
I put it in bold for the very same reason you are having such a struggle with understanding what I'm getting at:
Before half-life the plot-line either wasn't important to videogame makers (go rescue someone captured by an enemy) or not integated into the gameplay (think Doom 1: here's a shotgun, have at it!).
But now it's something you expect from a game. as you've already claimed:
Revolutionary (my original claim) doesn't have to be the best ever, it just has to be influencial and original. Thus is half-life's story telling.

life tip: I understand you're most likely young, but do your best to free yourself from the time and place in which you live when trying to be objective.

Okay Forest Gump, Jesus.

Life tip? You must be really old then if you're sitting here lecturing us about our age. His opinion just differed from yours, no need to go ballistic and claim that we're children.

[Mr Jones]

Originally posted by shakey_snake

life tip: I understand you're most likely young, but do your best to free yourself from the time and place in which you live when trying to be objective.


hahaha, jesus, I can't believe you just said that, so come on mr maturity, tell us how old you are so we can bow down to your many years of life experience.

hahaha, thanks for starting my morning with a chuckle :D

[shakey_snake]

what's wrong with advising someone how to get rid of foolish shortsightedness?

[bebopman]

I think the original Sonic the Hedgehog is the best game, because after all this time I still love sitting down and playing it.

[SonicEchidna]

Best PSOne Game of all time - Metal Gear Solid
Best PS2 Game Of All Time - Metal Gear Solid 2 - Sons of Liberty
Best PC Game Of All Time - The Sims

Let the controversy..erm..carry on.

[Banjo]

Banjo-Kazooie

[xzxzzx]

Best game of all time?

As with some of the people here, I'd have to say that depends on what standard you're using to judge by.

Best game in terms of when it originally came out?
Super Mario World
In comparison to games of any time period?
GTA - Vice City
Most gameplay time?
Alpha Centauri
Most original?
Black & White
Most engrossing?
Morrowind III

There are more than a couple of games that were incredibly entertaining at the time I was playing them - Earthsiege & Earthsiege 2 come to mind.

[whiteflip]

Halo 2

[Too-DAMN-Much]

childhood : sonic the hedgehog 1 2 & 3, not to mention sonic and knuckles, god memories
early teens : the twisted metal games on playstation, nuthin beats blowin up cars from inside of cars with missiles and bombs and stuff
adulthood : Deus ex 1 and any gta game

[OutlawJim]

Originally posted by Myxomatosis
Affirmative. Cross sucks the big 1.

i know this was ages ago, but chrono cross doesnt suck, its just not what it should have been. as an rpg on its own, its a lot of fun :) and i think im gonna change my favourite game of all time from Kingdom Hearts to Suikoden :)

[Doggy Dog]

SNES:
Chrono Trigger / Star Ocean tie

PC:
I could think for days. Let's go by genre.
Strategy (tycoon):
Transport Tycoon Deluxe / Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 tie

Strategy (RTS):
Warcraft 2 / Age Of Empires tie (nostalgic choice)

Strategy (TBS - civ style):
Civilization (all) / Alpha Centauri

Strategy (wargame):
The Operational Art Of War / War On The Pacific

Strategy (hybrids):
Majesty / Warcraft 3

Adventure game:
Damn.........so many in so many ways.
Monkey Island 1 / Sam & Max / LBA 2 / Grim Fandango / Syberia / Hand Of Fate / Broken Sword series...... just can't take a pick.

Action Adventure:
Beyond Good And Evil

FPS (single player by "age"):
Ugh.... Wolf 3d / Duke Nukem 3d / Half-Life / Call Of Duty

FPS (multiplayer):
Unreal Tournament (and I stick by this)

Tactical shooter:
Swat 3 & 4 I guess.

Flying Sim:
Il-2 Sturmovik (or whatever it's called)

RPG (first person):
Betrayal At Krondor / Morrowind

RPG (other):
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale 1 &2

Sports Game:
Fifa RTWC 1998 (nostalgia)

Racing game (3d):
Ignition

Racing game (2d):
Death Rally


Overall: Impossible to say.

Can't think of more genres, give me one, and I'll add it.

[Doggy Dog]

Add Heroes of Might & Magic 3 to strategy/hybrids.

Add Might & Magic series to RPG (first person).

[Bilbo Baggins]

You could have used the edit button ;)

[PAK-9]

SNES:
Chrono Trigger / Star Ocean tie

Wrong

PC:
Strategy (tycoon):
Transport Tycoon Deluxe / Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 tie

Wrong

Strategy (RTS):
Warcraft 2 / Age Of Empires tie (nostalgic choice)

Wrong

Strategy (TBS - civ style):
Civilization (all) / Alpha Centauri

Wrong

Strategy (wargame):
The Operational Art Of War / War On The Pacific

Wrong

Strategy (hybrids):
Majesty / Warcraft 3

Wrong

Adventure game:
Damn.........so many in so many ways.
Monkey Island 1 / Sam & Max / LBA 2 / Grim Fandango / Syberia / Hand Of Fate / Broken Sword series...... just can't take a pick.

Wrong

Action Adventure:
Beyond Good And Evil

Wrong

FPS (single player by "age"):
Ugh.... Wolf 3d / Duke Nukem 3d / Half-Life / Call Of Duty

Wrong

FPS (multiplayer):
Unreal Tournament (and I stick by this)

Completely Wrong

Tactical shooter:
Swat 3 & 4 I guess.

Wrong

Flying Sim:
Il-2 Sturmovik (or whatever it's called)

Wrong

RPG (first person):
Betrayal At Krondor / Morrowind

Wrong

RPG (other):
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale 1 &2

Wrong

Sports Game:
Fifa RTWC 1998 (nostalgia)

Wrong

Racing game (3d):
Ignition

Wrong

Racing game (2d):
Death Rally

Wrong

See me after class
- PAK-9

[Omega X]

Originally posted by PAK-9
SNES:
Chrono Trigger / Star Ocean tie

Wrong

PC:
Strategy (tycoon):
Transport Tycoon Deluxe / Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 tie

Wrong

Strategy (RTS):
Warcraft 2 / Age Of Empires tie (nostalgic choice)

Wrong

Strategy (TBS - civ style):
Civilization (all) / Alpha Centauri

Wrong

Strategy (wargame):
The Operational Art Of War / War On The Pacific

Wrong

Strategy (hybrids):
Majesty / Warcraft 3

Wrong

Adventure game:
Damn.........so many in so many ways.
Monkey Island 1 / Sam & Max / LBA 2 / Grim Fandango / Syberia / Hand Of Fate / Broken Sword series...... just can't take a pick.

Wrong

Action Adventure:
Beyond Good And Evil

Wrong

FPS (single player by "age"):
Ugh.... Wolf 3d / Duke Nukem 3d / Half-Life / Call Of Duty

Wrong

FPS (multiplayer):
Unreal Tournament (and I stick by this)

Completely Wrong

Tactical shooter:
Swat 3 & 4 I guess.

Wrong

Flying Sim:
Il-2 Sturmovik (or whatever it's called)

Wrong

RPG (first person):
Betrayal At Krondor / Morrowind

Wrong

RPG (other):
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale 1 &2

Wrong

Sports Game:
Fifa RTWC 1998 (nostalgia)

Wrong

Racing game (3d):
Ignition

Wrong

Racing game (2d):
Death Rally

Wrong

See me after class
- PAK-9

AND I have yet to see Sonic The Hedgehog on the list. So tasteless. :P

[Doggy Dog]

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
You could have used the edit button ;)


Eh, no. I would have used it if I could. :p

"The administrator has specified that you can only edit messages for 180 minutes after you have posted. This limit has expired, so you must contact the administrator to make alterations on your message."


Pak, stfu.
1) Those are only personal faves
2) I you wrote that with your choices and good arguments, I would stfu myself, and maybe argue politely with you after class :p.


Omega X: This was a PC list, so stfu too, and don't post pagelong quotes. And if you post one again in spite, trust me, you're not being witty.


Some notes:
I didn't add The Longest Journey to the adventure list because I have yet to play it. And it's supposed to say Monkey Island 1-3. Ignition's category should be Racing Game (3d - Arcade).

[DJ J.A.]

Statistically, here's how the top selling games of all time have done.

1) Super Mario Bros. (NES) - 40 Million
2) Tetris (Game Boy) - 33 Million
3) Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) 18 Million
4) Super Mario World (SNES) - 17 Million
5) Super Mario Land (Game Boy) - 14 Million
6) Super Mario 64 (N64) - 11 Million
7) The Sims (PC) - 10 Million
8) Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES) - 10 Million
9) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2) - 8.5 Million
10) Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (PS1) - 8 Million
11) GoldenEye (N64) - 8 Million
12) Donkey Kong Country (SNES) - 8 Million
13) Super Mario Kart (SNES) - 8 Million
14) Pokemon Red/Blue (Game Boy) - 8 Million
15) Half-Life (PC) - 8 Million
16) Tomb Raider II (PS1) - 8 Million
17) Final Fantasy VII (PS1) - 7.8 Million
18) Myst (PC) - 7 Million
19) Gran Turismo 3 (PS2) - 7 Million
20) Dragon Warrior VII (PS1) - 6 Million

Ultimately, Super Mario Brothers for the Nintendo Entertainment System literally did the best. Mario is one of the most well known characters in the world as well. You could go to the center of the Earth and ask the Vril-Ya who Mario is, and they'd probably know.

I'd have to say Final Fantasy 7, personally.

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

And half of that list is comprised of Nintendo games. Not bad, I think.

[Mach]

I know it a Knock off but Unreal tournament is good
Another good 1 is Homeworld very high grades on control interface and a good graphics engine:p
But If you Want involved gameplay good story and Outstanding Graphics, Play Ubisofts FarCry! Weapons a pleanty lots of Targets and a gene manipulating scientist with toooo much time on his hands. Oh By the way you get the girl in the Butt...I mean the end. yea thats what I meant......


He who laughs last...Laughs

[jaf1230]

Originally posted by mark
CHRONO TRIGGER!

not that i should expect anyone to even remember one of the greatest RPGs of all time...:rolleyes:

I just got back from playing Chrono Trigger. It's definitely the best game ever, and I'm glad to know more people agree with me on that one. Definitely a great storyline, good characters, nice graphics, and amazing music. AMAZING music. I have this great mix of orchestrated Chrono Trigger music. The audio just makes the game so much more enjoyable.

And Metal Gear Solid is a definite second for me. I just like it a lot. Sons of Liberty wasn't too bad either, though I didn't own that one (played it at my cousin's house).

[ecardica]

There has never been a game as great as Sonic the Hedgehog. That hedgehog is 10X the hero Mario could ever hope to be :D