Exploiting my neighbours, how?

[Michgelsen]

I'm using a wireless network at home, which is encrypted. My neighbours (I don't know exactly which neighbours, but someone nearby) are too. The good point is their network is not encrypted. This means I am able to use their network when I want, because I experience lag on my own network from time to time. Unfortunately, their networks lags to sometimes.

Now my question is: does someone have any idea how I can connect to these two networks simultaneously? That way I might be able to achieve greater speed or a less lagier connection.

And while you're at it, does someone know a simple tool to crack WEP encryption..?:rolleyes: I know WEP is not very secure and somebody else is using an encrypted wireless network too.;)

Thank you :D

[webthing]

Man Charged With Stealing Wi-Fi Signal (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050707/ap_on_hi_te/techbits_wi_fi_theft_1)

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[Michgelsen]

Originally posted by Michgelsen
This means I am able to

Who said I do that... I only want to know, that's all ;)

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LOL @ the link. :D

My personal opinion though.. if you do not encrypt your network, your asking to have someone else surf on it.

It's not as if he undermined any protection put in place to prevent someone from using the signals.. so why not? Your broadcasting a signal into my home that I can access because you chose not to make it unaccessible, your problem not mine.

(However I do agree that all other laws should still apply.. if you tried to gather information like credit card numbers or performed any other illegal activity [such as child pornography mentioned in the artice] you should still be held accountable.)

[PulseDriver]

Hum... if someone transmit a signal into your appartment, it's not always you would agree it's their problem. Eg. if someone have a party, which have lots of noise, you need to sleep, cause you're working the day after.. it's your problem...

And by signal I mean LOUD MUSIC

It's a law which protects the unwise people.

Anyway, this is illegal, and this thread should be locked :P

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No I just meant your broadcasting information outside of your premises willingly.

If your fighting with your spouse by yelling extremely loud, you have to expect people to overhear what your saying. If your leaving your network unencrypted, you should also expect people to access it.

[PulseDriver]

Yes, exactly... the reaction for you is positive for networks, and negative for noise....

Too many people lack the sense or morality in here... :rolleyes:

Just because someone forgot to lock their car, it doesn't mean you can take it. It's illegal. If that's hard to understand, you should think about how you respect others property one more time. :p

[xzxzzx]

Originally posted by PulseDriver
Just because someone forgot to lock their car, it doesn't mean you can take it. It's illegal. If that's hard to understand, you should think about how you respect others property one more time. :p It's not the same at all. If you drive your car up my driveway, get out, and leave it running, what do you think I should do with it?

[deathazre]

Originally posted by xzxzzx
It's not the same at all. If you drive your car up my driveway, get out, and leave it running, what do you think I should do with it? it's more of leaving the car running in their driveway with a sign that reads 'feel free to use my car' (DHCP)

[CaboWaboAddict]

Originally posted by xzxzzx
It's not the same at all. If you drive your car up my driveway, get out, and leave it running, what do you think I should do with it?
That's not the same either... A radio signal is not trespassing on your property. Its not being left unattended. Its not blocking your driveway.

Originally posted by deathazre
it's more of leaving the car running in their driveway with a sign that reads 'feel free to use my car' (DHCP)
Using the car analogy, it would be more like leaving your car running in your own driveway with a sign saying 'Look this car is running and I'm not watching it.'

[squakMix]

yea, cabo's analogy is more correct.

[deathazre]

Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict
Using the car analogy, it would be more like leaving your car running in your own driveway with a sign saying 'Look this car is running and I'm not watching it.' that'd be true if the network was not running a DHCP daemon.

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Originally posted by PulseDriver
Yes, exactly... the reaction for you is positive for networks, and negative for noise....

Too many people lack the sense or morality in here... :rolleyes:

Just because someone forgot to lock their car, it doesn't mean you can take it. It's illegal. If that's hard to understand, you should think about how you respect others property one more time. :p

Originally posted by deathazre
it's more of leaving the car running in their driveway with a sign that reads 'feel free to use my car' (DHCP)

:D

Well, it isn't exactly the same, because the person isn't technically saying "go ahead and use my network". However, in this day and age, choosing not to protect you wi-fi signal is just as good IMO.

And this can't be compared to a material item. Sure that would be convenient, but the person is not really losing anything (and trying to argue they own the bandwidth or something is just really weak ;)).

Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict
Using the car analogy, it would be more like leaving your car running in your own driveway with a sign saying 'Look this car is running and I'm not watching it.'

That is the most accurate analogy, but it doesn't exactly compare to the situation. If you were to take a material possesion, that person is at a loss, whereas all you are doing here is using an infinite supply of something (the wifi signal).

If we go back to the above argument about someone playing the radio.. let's say someone is playing some music really loud. Instead of listening to your own radio, you just listen to their's because it is also available.. that person isn't affected.

[drewbar]

A computer comes along and sees a network and asks "Can I get connected here?"
The router (DHCP server) says "Yes, here your address to use."

At that point it was legit transaction and your equipment let me on your network. I did nothing wrong, since you did not set up your to allow anyone on, it's the owners issue.

[griffinn]

... only wi-fi signals aren't an infinite supply. Your neighbour needs all the bandwidth he can get for his own illegal downloads. Your illegal downloads will interfere with his illegal downloads. And doing more than one illegal download at a time from the same IP address increases the risks that both of you get busted by RIAA.

[Twilightseer]

Michgelsen

You're basically asking for information about how to perform something illegal (you're even specifically asking for a crack in your original post). This is totally against the forum rules, which is why I'll lock this thread and give you a stern warning: if you ever do that again, you will be banned immediately, no questions asked.

Locked.

[ElChevelle]

Here's an analogy.
You come into my home as a guest and immediately start asking me ways to break in while I'm not home so you can steal my stereo, my TV and my blow up doll. Rather than call the cops, I squarepunch you in the middle of your forehead and buy a new lock for my house.

Thread double locked.