Trying winamp DSP [Archive]

hackerdork

17th February 2006, 15:05

What is the IP address of your computer running winamp with shoutcast DSP ? If you have a private address of
192.168.x.x 172.16.x.x 172.21.x.x or 10.x.x.x you are running NAT.

do you have the shoutcast server all ready running? You need that working before the DSP can connect. If everything is running on the same system, try using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) for the server IP addres.

Read the docs as well. it helps.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 15:18

Yes my shout cast server is up and runnin on a remote linux server: here: http://70.86.125.82:2606/

my local Ip is: 192.168.1.100 but my WEB IP is :67.187.117.24

NOw in my linksys wrt54g router I have a feature called "gaming and applications" where it lets me configure the following opitons: " Port Range Forward |
Port Triggering |
DMZ |
QoS "

In each of those categories it ask about port info.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 16:22

Ok I followed this tutorial for my router: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54G/Winamp_Audio_Streaming.htm

It still is not working. I am trying to upstream from home to a remote server . Is this the correct way to set it up? because the tutorial i read here: http://www.allinternetradio.com/shoutcast-firewalls3.asp

seems like they are instructin you how to do it when you are using your local machine as the dnas server.

I dunno.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 16:31

oh and btw. I don't know if it matters. But when i tried to make my IP statick by going to the network properties tcp/ip setttings and chose the ip that I saw in the CMD command in the Dos window.

Well when i made my ip static my interenet stopped working. I went to the routers configuartion panel and it had dropped me from the DHCP server.

So I reset it back to obtain an IP automatically and the internet started working again. So i cant use a static ip but thats ok i know how to reset everything to the working ip if i ever boot.

But needless to say i followed the instruction exactly as listed except for I did not use a static ip

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:05

Sputnik, ask your host to open the ports 2606 and 2607 in IPTables. The SHOUTcast DNAS needs two ports : one for outgoing and the other for incoming.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:08

Originally posted by bingo
Sputnik, ask your host to open the ports 2606 and 2607 in IPTables. The SHOUTcast DNAS needs two ports : one for outgoing and the other for incoming.

They are both open.

let me ask you ? you know my config.

in dsp what adress should i stream to? This one right?: http://70.86.125.82:2606/

Now if that is correct lets move on.

I got the right password.

I got my port forwarded to 2606 and 2606 in my routers config panel at IP: 192.168.1.100. THAT IS MY LOCAL IP.

My default gateway is 192.168.1.1

So what am i doing wrong?

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:12

I thought to have understood that 70.86.125.82 was a rented server. So, you don't need to modify the settings of your own computer.

In the DSP as the Address of the server, put 70.86.125.82 and as the port 2606. The password is yours. It should connect. If it doesn't check the server's logs (I said the server's).

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:13

this is the results of port test for 2607 on my local machine but with my public ip

67.187.117.24:2607 is Closed

Reason Given: Connection refused
More about this error: This essentially means that the port is open to the internet but has no services associated with it. There is no firewall protection on this port.

and i get the same for 2606

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:15

Originally posted by bingo
I thought to have understood that 70.86.125.82 was a rented server. So, you don't need to modify the settings of your own computer.

In the DSP as the Address of the server, put 70.86.125.82 and as the port 2606. The password is yours. It should connect. If it doesn't check the server's logs (I said the server's).

Yeah i understand that but this dang tutorial assumes im running dnas on a local server so i get it all confused.

Ok so the last port scan said they were both open but connection refused.

earlier it was telling me that they had fire walls so i think i got past that hurdle . now gotta figure out what else is wrong.

so ?????

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:19

If you could only take one second to try to understand. Posting here isn't a real solution till you don't want to make the effort to understand : we don't talk about your own machine firewall, we don't care about.
You should check your server's (at the IP you know) password. I bet that I can connect without problem. Check the password in the sc_serv.conf file.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:20

Originally posted by bingo
Sputnik, ask your host to open the ports 2606 and 2607 in IPTables. The SHOUTcast DNAS needs two ports : one for outgoing and the other for incoming.

I think they are open. in my dnas server i am using 2606 and it is working with sc_trans . I have it kicked at the moment but it works. so if the ports were not open would sc_trans still work?

hmmm

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:24

Originally posted by bingo
If you could only take one second to try to understand. Posting here isn't a real solution till you don't want to make the effort to understand : we don't talk about your own machine firewall, we don't care about.
You should check your server's (at the IP you know) password. I bet that I can connect without problem. Check the password in the sc_serv.conf file.

I appreciate your input. But know this . I have been glued to my computer for over 12 hours a day for the last week trying to get this up and running. I have made much progress but there is just so much stuff involved. I have read and attempted in every way imaginable to educate myself by reading everything i could find on the internet. It seems at almost every point in this process something don't work right. tutorials don't fix the problem. Im am chipping it away one chip at a time.

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:26

Damned ! Check your DNAS password. I bet you are providing your usuall password instead the one you had setup in the sc_serv configuration file. It is totally different.

And to be complete : sc_trans is broadcasting from the server and in 127.0.0.1 so it doesn't absolutely care about any firewall or so.

Check your password I told you. This time, Goodbye !

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:39

I changed both the broadcaster password and the admin password to be the same. both passwords are the same. ******

I can log on to my server admin panel using this password. It is the ONLY password I have configured in the sc_serv.conf file.

I have put this password in my DSP plugin password field and it still does not connect.

and yes i restarted the server.

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:45

Of course you press Connect and are playing something if you are in Winamp Input mode ?
I connected without a problem.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 17:48

Originally posted by bingo
Of course you press Connect and are playing something if you are in Winamp Input mode ?
I connected without a problem.

I am playing an mp3 file that is sittin on my desktop. using aac+ input from winamp. I know that dsp hears the music because the little equalizer bars are moving up and down.

when i click connect it just trys and then within a split second it says disconnected.

bingo

17th February 2006, 17:56

And do the levels in the Main tab of the SHOUTcast Source DSP plug-in move ?
I don't know what the AAC+ input is.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 18:01

yeah they move.

i checked my logs again. The only connection i see was the one you made.

some how my attempt to connect is being blocked from This side of my router.

I dont know if its xp or my router that is blocking it. I have made sure i have no firewalls.

I even did a port scan and listed the results above. Got connection refused .

let me reboot everything and try again.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 18:38

What I have done is bypass my router and plugged directly to the cable modem

I still get the same no connection problem so I know its not the router.

I did another port scan and it says the same thing that the port is open but connection refused.

It also says that perhaps my isp has me behind a proxy. So im gonna give them a call to see whats up.

I also notice that when i launch IE i can see down in the status bar it says: "detecting proxy setting" so i think perhaps that is it?

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:04

well chatted with ISP support they said that i am not behind a proxy and that my ports are not blocked.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:14

ok so i narrowed it down the fact that it is not my router. It is not my isp. it is not my dnas because it is running and works fine with sc_tans.

Ive tried it on two different computers one with xp one with 2k.

This is the log from my last server restart a few moments ago.

<02/17/06@14:09:48> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/Linux v1.9.5 (Dec 27 2004) starting up...
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] pid: 16909
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] loaded config from /home/sputnik/public_html/shout/sc_serv.conf
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] initializing (usermax:16 portbase:2606)...
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] opening source socket
<02/17/06@14:09:48> [main] error opening source socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
<02/17/06@14:09:53> [main] SIGTERM; exiting!
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/Linux v1.9.5 (Dec 27 2004) starting up...
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] pid: 16924
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] loaded config from /home/sputnik/public_html/shout/sc_serv.conf
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] initializing (usermax:16 portbase:2606)...
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] opening source socket
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] source thread starting
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [source] listening for connection on port 2607
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] opening client socket
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<02/17/06@14:09:56> [main] client main thread starting
<02/17/06@14:10:05> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting
<02/17/06@14:10:06> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting
<02/17/06@14:10:06> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting
<02/17/06@14:10:07> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting
<02/17/06@14:10:07> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting
<02/17/06@14:10:07> [dest: 67.187.115.16] server unavailable, disconnecting

If its not the router , not the is , no fire walls running in windows, no virus , no zone alarms etc. then what are the only other choices?

bingo

17th February 2006, 19:23

A stupid idea : you don't put IP:PORT in the server's address ? Right ?

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:28

in the dsp I put

adress: http://70.86.125.82

Port : 2606 Pasword: ******

I checked the logs. when i try to connect . My dnas logs dont even know it. there is no entry of me attempting to connect at all. My attempt to connect is not making past my computer.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:30

my connection icon does not even light up when i press connect

bingo

17th February 2006, 19:35

Ah, the icons lights up on Windows ?
Sorry, I don't have any other idea than checking if you don't have any firewall software where to allow outgoing connection. Letting others to have ideas on that.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:42

yeah i know. this has me really stumped.

i dont think the dsp is connecting to the network.at all. I mean even if i put the wrong info in there it would still light up and attempt to connect.

but its not even trying.

maybe my version of dsp is bad or faulty . i downloaded it from shoutcast website.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:43

Originally posted by bingo
Ah, the icons lights up on Windows ?
Sorry, I don't have any other idea than checking if you don't have any firewall software where to allow outgoing connection. Letting others to have ideas on that.

but ive tried it on two different machines. same problem. with router bypasses on one.

bingo

17th February 2006, 19:43

You can even try with some commercial encoders like the one at Spacialaudio (DSP for Winamp exist in trial version, I think).

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 19:55

hmmm tried spacialaudio and it would not connect either.

there has to be something on both my computers that is not letting it connect to the network.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 20:32

I changed my ports to default 8000 lets see if this works.

http://70.86.125.82:8000/

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 20:36

never mind

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 20:47

nope did not help it to turn it to port 8000

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 20:51

OH well I give the **F** up!

fc*uk

17th February 2006, 21:37

in your log you posted above DNAS throws the error that some other proscess is using that port. That means you restarted the server on the linux box and it did not cleanly exit.

You have two options: Call the host and tell them to reboot the box; or track down the pids that DNAS is using and kill them. On linux you must be root to do this: ('su root' in a terminal, provide the password, and 'kill pid ####').

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 23:35

FC*uk....that was from when i was messing around in putty i have that problem fixed.

Plus others can connect and stream to my server no problem.

my problem is getting the dsp to connect to any network.

I just installed sc_serv on my win2k machine. I have it hooked to this computer via a router. All firewalls are gone. And the ports are forwarded.

I couldnt even get dsp to connect to my home server.

I was testing to see if i could connect to it if i put the server on a local ip . and it still gives the same problem . NOT CONNECTING to anything. the little network connection icon does not even light up when i click connect. its not even trying.

fc*uk

17th February 2006, 23:36

little network icon like in the taskbar? If yes, then you have a bad cat5e cable, port, or nic in general.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 23:45

yes its not even trying to light up when i click connect to indicate that it is sending any data out.

its like dsp is not connected into my network thats what it seems like . as if it dont know there is a network present for it to access.

ive tried it without the router . i bypassed the linksys router and tried it with a direct connection to the cable modem and still did not work.

plus ive tried it on 2 different computers as well.

fc*uk

17th February 2006, 23:47

then you have a bad cable if numerous computers give you the same problem. Do the green and orange lights turn on on the back of the nic? Do the lights on the router port light up when the rj45 is jacked in?

However, the the network card or cable is bad, then how the hell are you accessing these forums????

A little more precise info perhaps....

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 23:49

yeah all my cables are brand new fresh out of the box. the nice blue ones.

the lights come on when you plug them in.

And yes the internet is working just fine.

I can do anything but this.

bingo

17th February 2006, 23:49

Hu, just another idea. To check, don't take it bad. Is the "Connect button" greyed ? Have you thought to select an encoder ?
Just an idea as this error is very strange.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 23:50

im gonna try it on my laptop here in a little bit. im gonna plug my laptop into the router and see if that one works. if not then i will try to see if it works with a wireless connection .

uggggg

I know this aint supposed to be this difficult. I seriously think gremlins are in my computer.

sputnik radio

17th February 2006, 23:52

Originally posted by bingo
Hu, just another idea. To check, don't take it bad. Is the "Connect button" greyed ? Have you thought to select an encoder ?
Just an idea as this error is very strange.

yeah i have selected accplus 1 at 48 just for testing. once i get it working im moving it up to 96

so yes to answer your question.

when i click connect the status says :"connecting" for a milisecond then it flashes back to "Not Connected"

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 00:20

Originally posted by fc*uk
then you have a bad cable if numerous computers give you the same problem. Do the green and orange lights turn on on the back of the nic? Do the lights on the router port light up when the rj45 is jacked in?

However, the the network card or cable is bad, then how the hell are you accessing these forums????

A little more precise info perhaps....

just to be clear. my network connection icon DOES light up when i am experiencing network traffic no problem there.

But it does NOT light up at all when i click the connect button in dsp. in other words i clicked it like a hundred times real fast to see if the network connection icon would light up and it does not. it only lights up when something else on my computer is using it.

dsp cannot connect to my network. it acts as if i dont have internet at alll.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 03:13

well it don't work on anything.

i dont know.

If anybody here lives in Dallas and will stop by and try to fix it I will give you a hundred bucks IF YOU FIX IT! 20 bucks if you cant fix it.

Thats all i know to do.

Dosvidanya

fc*uk

18th February 2006, 03:14

you are not making the connection to dnas then. Bingo was able to do it, so I am guessing:

A. You are using the incorrect password

B. Something is blocking your port on your local computer.

C. You are not using the correct host address

These are just about the only possibilities as this functionality of the shoutcast software has worked and worked well for billions of others.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 03:21

a. I have checked like a zillion times. I am using the same password for everything. I have but only ONE password entered EVERYWHERE!!!

B. I did a port scan at radiotoolbox.com . the port scan indicated that the port is open but "CONNECTION REFUSED" because NO SERVICE was present.

C. I am using : DSP SETTINGS:

Host: http://70.86.125.82

Port: 2606 Password: ******

fc*uk

18th February 2006, 03:27

Dosvidanya

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 03:27

imagine if you will that YOU disconnected your connection to the internet. You unplugged the cable.

now try to connect using dsp and see what it does.

that is what its doing to me.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 03:28

Originally posted by fc*uk
Dosvidanya Spaciba.

I will be back later. Im just burned out now. I need a break .

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 12:38

are there any other streaming software that i can test out? That will stream to my shoutcast host? or must you use nsv and winamp to do it?

I tried the one plug in for winamp that bingo mentioned but it did the same exact thing with no connection.

I wish i could isolate the problem some how. I got to go to work today so im gonna try it up at work with my laptop on my office's network to see if it works.

bingo

18th February 2006, 12:42

Talked about this morning with some friends. Possible solutions :
1/ you have to create an outgoing rule in your router's settings to allow outgoing traffic from the LAN IP on ports 2606 and 2607 to the DEST IP
2/ you can have a ghost service running on your computers (Internet Security not well uninstalled, ZA rests, XP firewall rule not allowing the SHOUTcast Source DSP plug-in for Winamp to access the internet)
3/ (just lough) : this is black magic voodoo and ask your wife about :)

Hope this could help

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 13:25

i just tried it on my laptop at work using my works inet.

still same problem it acts as if there is no internet connection.

Bingo- how could all those problems be existing on 3 different computers with 2 different OS's . And 2 different ISP's? With and without router.

plus i installed dnas on my local machine and tried to stream to it and got same problem

bingo

18th February 2006, 13:34

Really, I don't know, reason why I tried to find information. And of course, I think you have changed the file you try to broadcast (Winamp had some limitations with Wma for example).

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 13:40

im trying to broadcast mp3's. where do you get the idea that i chaned the file im trying to broadcast??????

Are there any other streaming broadcaster i could try besides the one you told me about yesterday?

I just don't understand how it could not work on 3 different computers with and without router.

Its not the router. I tried it without using router. same problem.

Its not my dnas server. you guys have succesfully streamed from your home to my server. so server not a problem

It cant be just XP ive tried it on win2k as well.

it cant be one of my computers. ALL 3 of my computers has the same problem.

Ive tried it on 2 different ISP providers now. Both claim they do not block ports.

I swear I don't know how all of you people manage to get it to work. It's as if Im living in a parrallel dimension where it works for everyone but me.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 13:43

oh wait my WORK internet has a firewall running that I CANNOT disable. So i guess that test is invalid.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 13:44

im gonna install the server on my laptop and see if i can stream to it.

fc*uk

18th February 2006, 14:16

If you are still at work, then they are still going to block it. It makes no difference if you use a work computer or your computer. If you are at work, the servers are still canning those ports.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 14:21

well i managed to open the ports on the router.

I installed dnas on my laptops xp system. The win32 app.

so i got it installed the admin panel can be viewed here: http://192.168.1.111:2606/admin.cgi

now that is a local ip so you cant view it ofcourse. but i can view it.

I tried to stream from dsp to http://192.168.1.111 PORT: 2606 Password: ******

And guess what???

the same problem occcurs.

sputnik radio

18th February 2006, 14:47

Guess WHAT????

I downloaded the SAM broadcaster . Not the plug in for winamp. I tried the SAM plugin for winamp and it did not work either.

But i downloaded the whole SAM broadcaster program.

And it works . . It connects NO problem and I am streaming from my laptop right now to my remote host:

http://70.86.125.82:2606/

so i guess this proves its a problem with dsp or winamp .

besides i really want to do nsvcap to be honest. So what do you guys think now?