How?

[WolfieD]

how do i get the really cute popular girl to start liking me as a friend without going up to her and saying, "hey, do you wanna be friends?"

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[sgtfuzzbubble011]

Ask her what kind of music she likes. Ask her if she wants to go to the movies. Ask her if she want's to have sex..... Oops. That's a little too fast. http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[WolfieD]

she says "i listen to anything" and then she only answers questions, even when i leave openings for her to ask questions, she never does. and im not gonna say "hey wanna go to the movies," cuz thats almost like asking for the sex at the sweet and tender age of 15.

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[sgtfuzzbubble011]

Eeks! Sorry, I forgot.

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[ElChevelle]

Do what I do! Touch the end of your nose with your tongue!
Works for me!

[ElChevelle]

If that doesn't work, show her what you drive http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif
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[Bilbo Baggins]

I think that the last thing a girl wants is to be *driven* on the first date.

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[ElChevelle]

Wanna bet?

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

YEEEEEEEHAAAAA!!

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[ElChevelle]

That's what I'mtalkin bout!

[WolfieD]

Heh, the thing is: She has the CD Burner, not I. and she doesnt even listen to mp3's because of the whole napster illegal conspricy thing. go figure.

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[sgtfuzzbubble011]

DOESN'T LISTEN TO MP3S?! If that's the case, then she's not good enough for you. Get a chick that listens to mp3s and uses Winamp and likes fast cars. http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[WolfieD]

Its her dads iMac, so she cant just load anything on it willy nilly. im sure you can relate. plus he actually "forbidded" her to download them. oh well.

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[rm']

Why don't you just ask her to be friends? You'd be surprised how many people will actually say yes.

You've obviously got to phrase it more subtley and eliminate all sexual tension so that she doesn't get the wrong idea that your after a 'cruise through the country'

Whoever caught that and tell me which shakespearean play the pun was originally in gets 1 000 000 waffles.



[This message has been edited by Radioactive Man (edited September 09, 2000).]

[WolfieD]

'thought it was a take off on NOFX's "Together On The Sand" you know,

Together on the sand, we walked hand in hand, on the beach front, she smiles at me as she tightly held my hand, i had my fingers up her, country music playin on the radio so i turned it off, we walked down to the water, and i fucked your grandmas daughter... (hey wait thats your momma!) a wave swept us away... (what a whore, what a whore, what a whore....) great song, really great song. anyway. the reason i dont come right out and ask her to "be friends" is because im a shy idiotic moron whod rather be dead then with cute girls cuz i always get weird and shit and then do something really really stupid and the girl i was with ends up hating me for life. god damn, girls are scary.

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[sgtfuzzbubble011]

Hmmm..... Sorry, but I don't have this kind of problem, so I'm not too sure how to help. For example, I was talking to a female friend of mine about a month ago, and in the middle of our conversation, I just said, "We need to have sex." She looked at me funny and said, "OK, when?" Unfortunately, our plans fell through. Which reminds me, I need to call her back, cuz she still wants to.

Anyway, I do know what you're talking about. I've had this happen a few times. I always just move on, though. Sorry, but that's the only thing I can suggest.

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[Mulefire]

Hmmmm,

This is a tricky one, I hate people generally so don't spend much time trying to make friends, but I have found that letters usually help. Not a long decleration of love or anything, just a quick note to say Hi.

For example, we had a girl come to my old work to do a couple weeks of temping. She looked like a really nice person but me being me hardly said a word other than when I was fixing her computer. In the end I installed ICQ (Lan) and just went away and sent a quick message saying something along the lines of "-fzzzzzle....zap...- You are relieved from duty for 2 mins to come up with an interesting reply to this message....fzzzzzz-". That was it, we spent the next while just firing messages back and forth. She is now a really good friend and we write all the time through email (her being in London and all...)

I guess email can be nice becuase you don't have the stress of realtime communications and the whole "must be interesting, witty, charming..etc etc" thing going on. Of course this only works if you have a reason for sending a message, i.e. you have at least met before. Otherwise you are just psycho boy. http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif Writing at least get's you comfortable with each others conversation and makes realtime chat much easier.

Don't sweat it, just write a quick note, if she replies then wahey, if not then she's proberly not that nice anyway and you can just squish her head from a distance... http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif

Mule.


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[Winsane]

"I'm crushing your head!... Wait a minute, that head's already been crushed!"

Thanks for that suggestion, Mule. I'll have to remember that one. Sounds very effective.

[rm']

The problem is, if you're too shy to ask to be friends, you'd probably be even shyer to ask for her email address.

Just be yourself, dude, and all will be well. Just try hanging out with her for a while, and eventually, she'll come around to her senses and realize that all you want to be is her friend. Don't pester, just make small talk every chance you get.

Or another possibility is too tell her how cool the bawds are (at the risk of appearing a WA addicted nerd), than carry on a normal (by our standards, anyway) converstaion here. I'm sure her Dad won't have a problem with her checking out winamp.com

I'll give y'all a hint: Hamlet

[rm']

Nix that first statement. Judging by your second post, you've already talked to her. And come to think of it, luring her on to the forums isn't al that great of an idea. After all, we wouldn't want to curropt her delicate mind with all manners of perverse speech and deep philosophical debates into the true meaning of the grid pattern on a waffle.

Stick with Mule's idea, or just try to overcome your fear and talk to her. It's probably better to start with her friends, so you can learn more about her, get at ease with girls, and possibly slip into her social circle.

With her friends, there's probably less tension because your not going in with the mindset to impress. They probably also friendlier, so starting a conversation will be easier.

[WolfieD]

Well, i know her email, have talked with her many times, and shes in this elite group of friends, that are like popular. oh i dunno... do you think its too strong of a "hello" if i take her family hostage, tie her up and set fire to her house? i cant make up my mind... forget it. girls are mean and have cooties!

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[rm']

It seems that she ain't yer type, so just forget about it.

[Jayn]

Wait a minute.....you've talked to her a lot with email, but she doesn't acknowledge you in person? Hmmmm......sounds like due to her "elite" group of friends she apparently has a thing about who she is seen associating with. Try an email asking her to go do something with ya' (far away from school and her "elite" friends), but be prepared for when you get the "Oh, I'd like to, but....." reply. I agree with RM....I think I'd forget about her and focus on someone else. http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Mulefire]

Does she write back to you? If so what sort of messages? Are they just replies to your questions or does she actually make a new point or comment on something outside of your original message?

How does she sign off, i.e. full name or just first name. Does she add any other embeleshments like "Have fun" or "See you later" or perhaps "Love, Hugs and Frisby shaped flying donut balls of gooey gastranomic gluttony" http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif

How long are the messages, does she include your original message or start a new one.?

What do you ask / talk about?

Okay with all that it is fairly easy to build up a picture of how she feels for you. It might not be what you are wanting to hear though http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/frown.gif Sometimes they are just too far down the path of obnoxiousness to be rescued.

An interesting thing to try and this is where it gets very High Fidelity, is to make her a tape or CD. This is not just a simple task though. Making a mix is a very scientific process. Some guidelines (I'll stick to a tape here, but a CD is pretty similar)

1. Use a 90 minute tape. No 60's, (that reeks of not enough effort, 120's are just trying to hard!)
2. First side should start off pretty mellow rising up towards a medium peek at the end.
3. Side 2 should start of at the same level as the end of Side 1, then should rise further until it is ended by a single or couple of mellow tracks.
4. Do NOT use bad recordings of songs or tracks with artifacts in them!
5. Make sure the tracks you use start and end properly! (Edit them in SoundForge if they don't, i.e. fade them in/out etc)
6. Make sure you keep a reasonable volume level throughout the tape.
7. Keep BMP's similar between songs, adding slightly faster tracks as you progress along the side.
8. Make a custom cover, either print out an image or find something in a magazine. Tape this up around the normal inlay card so that the inlay is completely covered.
9. Leave a slit open at the top of the lid.
10. Write out a track list including all info. Embelish with nice designs etc.
11. Fold this up but leave a lip.
12. This slides down between your inlay card and your new cover so that it is hidden apart from the lip with hangs over the edge.

Very Important - Do not MIX your tracks on the first tape! You can do this later, but the first tape should have stuff that is easily copiable etc.

Okay that was the boring bit. Remember that you are going for the personal touch, I know it might seem cooler to knock up your track list in PhotoShop etc and just print the whole thing out, but handwriting will always come over as more personal.

Next the tracks themselves, I'm obviously biased here but I tend to shy towards electronic, Biosphere, Orbital, katcha, Underworld etc. But make sure you don't start putting lots of well known tracks on there. You have to put some hard to find remixes or b sides etc. This makes the whole thing far more interesting.

Next comes the exciting part, what vocals are in the songs you'e using. It's no good putting Sucicide Pact or Breathless by Momus on there for example. They might be superb tracks but they kind of give the very wrong idea! You're looking for something that is not hate orientated or about death / cars or outright love etc. A good track might be Momus - Enlightenment or Ultramarine - No Time, AON - Camilla etc.

But you might be into totally different types of music so use whatever. In my honest opinion though, most guitary stuff is too love orientated or too moany. It just dosn't fit right and gives the wrong impression. Remember that tapes are a very subtle thing. You are encoding a message that you don't want to be in your face but rather just under the surface.

So to sum up tapes, I have found that slinky mellow is good (Kristine Hersh, Cranes, Lush, Cocteau Twins, Fatima Mansions etc), Industrial Electronic (Nine Inch Nails, Frontline Assembly, White Zombie, Prodigy, Electric Hellfire Club, Revolting Cocks etc) and plain Electronic (AON, Underworld, Biosphere, Tangerine Dreams, etc) work well.

The biggest fault I have found with tapes is a mix of songs that just do not go together or bad recording, no track listing etc. Things that just irk.

Oh my what a tirade that was, I don't know If any of that conveyed anything usefull for you, it is difficult to write about how you listen and mix music, you just do it by ear. If you try, post a track list I'd be interested!

Mule.


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[WolfieD]

Jeez i should have replied sooner... its instant messaging... over AIM...

RM: Tried that, came crawling back many times.

Jayn: You got the right idea, when she sees me and no ones around, i get a "hey" and i say "hey, how are you back" and it goes from there for a few more seconds. So yea it has to do with her clique. And asking her to do something... well... i dunno.

Mule: Whoa there, muleman! Slow down a bit... Tape? I thought we had cd writers and shit. but since i dont have one, a tape would be nice. techno/electronic isnt big around here, and from what i know, she likes more modern popular stuph (3rd door down, uh stuph like that) a tape would be an ok idea, but i have 1) no clue how to do that kinda thing, and 2) no other reason here.

Oh well. just drop this, heh. ill deal with her as best as i can, which usually ends up with me using gasoline and a lighter. pyrotechnics and valium dont mix.

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[Mulefire]

Heh..okay

But you did ask... http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif

My wife tells me that it is a lost cause anyway, most girls in that type of clique are so not going to ever break away for something like love let alone friendship. At that age you are dealing with a single track mind of uninspiring creativity. If you're not perfect then you don't fit. I can relate I suppose, I liked a couple of the "popular" girls at school but I didn't listen to Bon Jovi or Guns 'N' Roses, nor did I own a car, nor was I of legal age to buy alcohol. You can see where the priorities are. Oh well.

Mule.



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The surest sign there is intellegent life in the Universe is that they havn't come to visit us yet - Calvin & Hobbes

[Xerxes]

Its like that old song- If you wanna be
happy for the rest of your life
. . . http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/smile.gif you do know the words right?

[ElChevelle]

I had a wife once...........til her husband came and took her away! http://forums.winamp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif