all people in UK unite

[piesupreme]

who lives in the UK here?

[s1138]

UK? where is that? isnt that over by England and Great Britian? is it between them?

[DEckaRD]

The 'United Kingdom' is Great Britain without the Republic of Ireland. It includes England, Scottland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Didn't you really know???

[s1138]

so Great Britian is the same as UK, so why does it have different names?
why cant it be like Canada, and have one name?

[DEckaRD]

GB - Republic of Ireland = UK

It's because of the Queen. They don't want her in the Republic of Ireland...

[a-arse]

I live in the UK/GB/England/Britain
It's pretty screwed up isnt it?
Damn us British and our greedy ways

[pukkaboy]

Yeah, i live in the UK!! WWWWWOOOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[Kezman]

F*CK the UK + Republic of Ireland

HOLLAND RULEZ...

[Riksruin]

I live in the UK Too
It kinda rulez over here! execpt the whether at the mo!! thats sux ass!

[a-arse]

It's cold and Wet in the UK what u
'WOOOOOHHHHINNNGG' about?
I suppose we did invent..... well pretty damn well everything but its cold and wet and cold

[pukkaboy]

true. when i get up in the morning i freeze to death but, WWWWWOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOO, i live in the UK!!!!!!

[Matt]

Yep I'm in England. Nothing to WWWWWOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOO about either.

[a-arse]

Originally posted by Matt
Yep I'm in England. Nothing to WWWWWOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOO about either.

But we do make damn good Singing Christmas Trees :D

[piesupreme]

england kicks ass. i live in banbury, which a few people might know (in oxfordshire). apparently it's supposed to snow tonight, so this cold had better be worth it.

[Lingo]

I live in England.
In-Ga-Land
Pomland.
Land of the Poms. Chortle.

Yeah, the weather sux but in
EIGHT DAYS IT'S CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :D:D:D
Bloody hell!
Oooh heck!
ENGLAND RULES. Doesn't it?
Or the Queen Rules England. Doesn't it? OOPS I mean she. ;)

Lingo

I support Sunderland football team. Not the Villa in Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrmingham. :D:D:D

And, here is my Sunderland signature.
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[piesupreme]

calm down, calm down. :D

[Shitbear]

Well I am from Scotland and although technically we are part of the uk/ great britain we do not associate ourselves with the english in any way. They are all hooligans.

[Lingo]

CALM?????????????
I AM PERFECLY CALM!! :mad:
I GO AROUND FORUMS BEING PERFECTLY CALM, AND YOU'RE TELLING *ME* TO BE CALM??? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
/me's head blows off.

;)

Li.. Look. I'm SICK OF TYPING (b)(i)Lingo(/i)(/b) okay?

[a-arse]

England does Rule,
Here I am watching my good Ol' 4 not wait 5! channel Tv downloading Redalert 2 writing this so damn bored, and complaining about the fact that although I didnt tick that box I'm still getting those damn e-mails about e-mail notification.
Darn.
What the Hell Did I just say?
God save the queen.............
I'll go back to my corner now :)

[a-arse]

Originally posted by Shitbear
we do not associate ourselves with the english in any way. They are all hooligans.

Im not a hooligan.
Just 'cos Im english doesnt mean I'm a hooligan,
Theres a word for that I just forgot it discrimination something like that :)

[John M]

Originally posted by a-arse
[QUOTE][i]
Im not a hooligan.
Just 'cos Im english doesnt mean I'm a hooligan,
Theres a word for that I just forgot it discrimination something like that :)
And just because i'm a hooligan doesn't mean i'm english :D

[pukkaboy]

ok, i'll admit it, england sucks!! but we do have battered mars bars!!! WWWWOOOOOOOOHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! and battered sausages WWWWOOOOOOHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! and batter WWWWWOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[pukkaboy]

as you could probably guess i like batter :D

[EvilTenster]

I live in the UK...

I live in england but I'm not english.

The Welsh are going to rule you all

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Bilbo Baggins]

That is the funniest thing i ever heard. The Welsh as our Overlords? :D

Did anyone of my British chums watch the Blackadder on the Royal Variety performance tonight?

[pukkaboy]

did you know that in chester it is legal to shoot a welshman with a longbow after midnight on sunday???

[piesupreme]

don't you mean midday

[Winsane]

/me decides to move to Chester. Nothing against Welshmen, I just wanna skewer people legally.

[s1138]

I would just like to take this time to start a flame.
YOU ALL SUCK!!!! you cant control any of your colonies (for example THE U.S. and CANADA), you then try to re-conquer them a few years later (War odf 1812), then after you being mean to them, they save your ass (World War II)
AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY AMERICA IS BETTER!!!*

*not to be taken seriously(except for america is better part)

[Xerxes]

Yeah.. the reason they nearly lost WWI was because the english soldiers got out of their trenches with their hunting rifles and got mowed down by german machine guns... "Oh deah, i do say that those juh-man's arnt very sporting fellow's, what utter balderdash ..." ;) lol

no.. actually i like the english... :) PIP PIP!

:eek: Xerxes :eek:

[piesupreme]

let us not forget nam.

let us also not forget that WW2 was fought entirely by american actors.

:cool:

[Lingo]

Oh, please.
Look. Let's just say that the Americans and the Brits are both as equally cool as each other okay?
Or people will get offended and fall out.
Wars really shouldn't be spoken about too much. Why won't everyone grow up and LIKE EACH OTHER?
Okay, we Brits may not let our hair down and go romping about as much as the Americans, but that doesn't mean to say that we suck, right? We Brits DO have feelings, you know.
Okay, we Brits might be too laid-back but that's just how we are.
But, I am very sensitive to caffeine.
If I have a coffee, I go high.
If I have a Red Bull (contains LOADS of caffeine) I go sky-high. Hyper. Uncontrollable. Which is a coooool feeling!! :D:D:D

Oh well.
-=Lingo=-

[s1138]

figures you would say "We should all mbe friends". your a brit, and you know america is better*

*once again dont take serious

[Lingo]

{cough, cough, cough}
grumble
:mad: :mad: :mad:

-=Lingo=-

[piesupreme]

i get really pissed off when the yanks say they're better than us. excuse me, who founded america? the spaniards. which are far smaller than you, so there. what nationality was abe lincoln? english. you're pretty fucked now. but let's stop now, this thread is mine and i want it to look good. :cool:

[ElChevelle]

My single favorite thing about the UK has (Lady) DIed:(

[implode]

Originally posted by piesupreme
excuse me, who founded america? the spaniards.

Uh.... what? :confused:

[ElChevelle]

Ever heard of Native americans? You know, the ones John Wayne killed?

[piesupreme]

yes, but you didn't know they were there until the spaniards came over and discovered modern civilisation. i do not wish to argue anymore, so truce. :(

[Indyrod]

Originally posted by piesupreme
yes, but you didn't know they were there until the spaniards came over and discovered modern civilisation. i do not wish to argue anymore, so truce. :(

Does this possibly mean, you are going to LEAVE???? Afterall, kind of late for you to be up annoying everybody again tonight, isn't it???

[Bilbo Baggins]

Can we get back to the subject about how great the motherland is please?

[piesupreme]

ok then.

i don't know why but i feel that although the USA is bigger, it is not as good as the UK. wht amount of deaths a day due to unnatural causes is a stupid figure, whereas in england it's about an 1/8th of that.
something else i'm not too keen on is how much is hidden in america. conspiricies, area 51, all that stuff. you don't get any of that in england. just one tosspot of a PM. :)

[pukkaboy]

i really shouldn't be telling you this but there is something the govournment aare hiding from us, it is a disused airbase in scotland. kind of like area51 but only cold.

dont tell anyone i said that. i'm changing ips in a while :D

[a-arse]

Originally posted by piesupreme
ok then.

i don't know why but i feel that although the USA is bigger, it is not as good as the UK. wht amount of deaths a day due to unnatural causes is a stupid figure, whereas in england it's about an 1/8th of that.
something else i'm not too keen on is how much is hidden in america. conspiricies, area 51, all that stuff. you don't get any of that in england. just one tosspot of a PM. :)

Or are we just not paranoid here in the UK? :D

[piesupreme]

we're extremely paranoid. and i love it. :eek:

[Bilbo Baggins]

just one tosspot of a PM

I thought I was the only one who thought the same way!

[piesupreme]

because i am onyl 17, next year i cannot vote in the general election. sux sux sux!!!!
:rolleyes:

[rm']

NA was discovered by St. Brendan of Ireland, who sailed across the atlantic in a leather boat. Then, about 150 years later, Leif Ericsson the Red misjudged the distance to Greenland, and smashed into Newfieland, or Vinland as he called it (hmm... that's odd.. no wine in newfieland...).

Anyhow, the English blow (blew, more like it) goats. Bunch of bastards. Exploiters of the whole fucking world. The epitome of the phrase "holier than thou". Bleh! Ptooie! Arrgggh! Puts a man into a shooting-rampage kind of mood..... I hate Ye Old England to the bone.... and modern England is not all that much better. Clinging to the useless and antiquated monarchy like a baby to a safety blanket. Yeah, I admit, England is a decent country, but it's too overcrowded, the monarchy is still there, and their history is almost unforgiveable. Besides, they are merely pawns of Uncle Sam, and the american war machine (hmm... not a bad thing, actually).

Holland and Ireland rock! Long live the emerald isles...

[cascade2]

<sits in the corner, quietly singing>
God save our gracious queen, da dah da daaah dada
</singsong>

ok, screw it. I forgot the words, k? jeez...freaking yanks.

god save the queen, a facist regime';
they made you a moron;
potential h-bomb;
god save the queen, she ain't no human-being;
there is no future, and englands screaming.....

i know dem words. dem purty words.

[implode]

Originally posted by piesupreme
i don't know why but i feel that although the USA is bigger, it is not as good as the UK. wht amount of deaths a day due to unnatural causes is a stupid figure, whereas in england it's about an 1/8th of that.

Does this mysterious "amount of deaths a day" figure take into account the population difference between the US and the UK?

[Bilbo Baggins]

Anyhow, the English blow (blew, more like it) goats. Bunch of bastards. Exploiters of the whole fucking world. The epitome of the phrase "holier than thou". Bleh! Ptooie! Arrgggh! Puts a man into a shooting-rampage kind of mood..... I hate Ye Old England to the bone.... and modern England is not all that much better. Clinging to the useless and antiquated monarchy like a baby to a safety blanket. Yeah, I admit, England is a decent country, but it's too overcrowded, the monarchy is still there, and their history is almost unforgiveable. Besides, they are merely pawns of Uncle Sam, and the american war machine (hmm... not a bad thing, actually).

I am glad you feel this way, since you won't be coming over here sometime soon will you?

I don't like America. You think that you are soo great. You think that what you believe in should be what the rest of the world fucking believes in, well we don't.

I would personally cheer if tomorrow China was to nuke your fuckin asses off this fuckin planet.

[Twilightseer]

This thread is fucking stupid. Its title says it all. It was obvious that this would turn into a country-bashing thing. It reminds me of those kids who play the stupid "my father is stronger than yours" game. It always ends up in a fight that could have been avoided otherwise.

[Dr Satan]

This is daft. It's full of people attacking what they don't know, from both sides. Lock this topic perhaps? It's gone bad.

[piesupreme]

when i started this topic, i wnated to know just exactly how many people live this side of the world. then some bellched came in and ruined it. mr shitbear, to be precise, so blame it all on him. :mad:

[Dr Satan]

Yeah, some people would start a war over mice vs trackballs given half a chance.

[Dr Satan]

Ooo, a 1 post moderator. There's sommat you don't see often. How'd ya manage that?

[cascade2]

Radioactive Man...
their history is almost unforgiveable.

I gotta say it, can I? can I? please?

[rm']

...some times, I have to learn to keep my big flippin mouth shut, but other times, I have to voice my opinions

I most definetely don't blame brits for what their forefathers did, and frankly, their very nice people. BUT... history has a way of repeating itself. So yes, Cascade, it's a good idea to tell it, so hopefully, new generations of British folk won't make the same mistakes.

Bilbo- I'm not from america. Frankly, I wouldn't care much if China blew away Washignton either. And yes, I've been to England. Like I said, very overcrowded, even for a European country. But, it still has it's charms.

[rm']

on a final note, I personally think any kind of nationalism is evil, and if you think your country is the best, you are merely deluding yourself. Excellence knows no borders.

[cascade2]

whoo! we win!.....j/k
yeah, anarchy is the way to be....

[Bilbo Baggins]

For that unprovoked outburst RM.

[Xerxes]

Agreed- nationalism is evil...

although if China was to nuke washington, london would be soon afterwards..... ;)

:eek: Xerxes :eek:

[piesupreme]

i don't like london that much, actually. in fact, random statistic alert! in london you are never more than 5 feet away from a rat on average. worrying thought. :D

[DJ Egg]

For what it's worth, I live in England too, Leeds to be precise.

Devolution meant that Scotland is no longer ruled from Westminster (London); the Welsh are constantly lobbying for independence too, bless 'em (confirmation of any definite news anyone?); Northern Ireland is in constant chaos; all cool & decent Englishmen are anti government & queen; so therefore the UK is (un)officially "no more".
Britain was Great maybe when it owned two thirds of the world and the gates of its enemies (ooh, biblical), but with a most shameful history to boot. Now, it doesn't even own itself.

Today's real enemies (on a global scale) are: big business, ignorance, propaganda, industry & pollution . . . and in some countries' cases, a small minority of bigoted drunken football hooligans & holidaymakers who tarnish the overall national image, ahem :) (I'm sure we can all add more items to the list)

The stereotypical Englishman is a myth, unless you believe everything that Hollywood portrays. It might apply to the 1% of the population who own all the land & riches, but certainly not to the real people.

However, the population of the country includes people from all over the world of many different creeds & religions, and probably a fair few aliens too, making the "UK" a truly cosmopolitan place to be . . . a lot like these forums actually.

So, as the title of my post suggests, let's all get on together & try our best to make this God forsaken hellhole a better place.

Amen

The Egg.


ps. Yes, the weather here sucks big time !

[cascade2]

Originally posted by DJEgg

The stereotypical Englishman is a myth, unless you believe everything that Hollywood portrays
damn straight. lets clear some things up, eh, what?

- Not every englishman talks like Patrick Stewart. or Dick Van Dykes lame interpretation; spoiled mary poppins for me, that did.
- There is no such thing as "U.S English. Microsoft will listen one day.
- Australian and english accents are different. its not THAT difficult.
-I have NO idea how this vicious rumour was started, but the english do not all have poor dental hygene/care
-American Football is a womens game. try rugby.
-Hugh Grant must die. lousy sellout.

kinda got off the point there......

[Dr Satan]

You missed one...

- All English people DO NOT work for Darth Vader.

If Americans can stop thinking these things are true then I'll stop thinking all Americans are fat and stupid :P

But perhaps we need to sort things out in our own country first. For starters, I'm from Carlisle. I'm not a Jordy, I'm not Scottish, I'm sure I'm not Irish. And since I'm a northener this does not knock 50 off my IQ. I'm a student, I don't work in the mines for anything daft like that.

Ahh that was fun. Next.

[Raj]

Originally posted by s1138
why cant it be like Canad...a?

yes...good question. why indeed. this question should be raised more often in more contexts. indeed. :D

[pukkaboy]

i'm sorry all you english ppl, but this place i live in is a shit hole. some on the uk is nice but rushden is a shit hole!!

[DJ Egg]

Oh yeah, an addendum to my post above . . .

However, William Regal (WWF) is a total asshole. :D
His typically English accent is totally put on. I bet in reality he's got more of a mancunian British Bulldog accent (hey, whatever happened to him then?)

Table table . . . whassssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :)

[implode]

Originally posted by DJEgg
However, William Regal (WWF) is a total asshole. :D
His typically English accent is totally put on. I bet in reality he's got more of a mancunian British Bulldog accent (hey, whatever happened to him then?)

Professional wrestling is total garbage anyway.

[DJ Egg]

Yeah, I know that, but it's a good laugh sometimes.
What about amateur female mud wrestling then? :D

[Xerxes]

puuuuh-sonally, ah-ee lah-ike the fake british aristocrah-tic ahk-sent" ;) really... i do... i wish i had one... i have a nasty LA accent... Undermines my intelligence ;)

:eek: Xerxes :eek:

[Dr Satan]

Originally posted by DJEgg


However, William Regal (WWF) is a total asshole. :D
His typically English accent is totally put on. I bet in reality he's got more of a mancunian British Bulldog accent (hey, whatever happened to him then?)

William Regal is the best thing to happen to the WWF ever. When you listen to him speak, remind yourself that he's from blackpool and laugh the night away.
As for the british bulldog, he messed himself up with drugs and I don't think he's gonna make a return.

[Dr Satan]

Originally posted by Xerxes
puuuuh-sonally, ah-ee lah-ike the fake british aristocrah-tic ahk-sent" ;) really... i do... i wish i had one... i have a nasty LA accent... Undermines my intelligence ;)

:eek: Xerxes :eek:

You should try my accent for a day. It's the scum of liverpool, mixed with the scum of newcastle, mixed with the scum of manchester, mixed with the scum of southern scotland. And my accent isn't even particulary strong.

But Carlisle is host to the most comical thing of the year. The Carlisle Utd vs Arsenal match, commin soon. I should be out buying tickets now, but I really can't be arsed.

[robunderhill]

Does it piss anyone else off how in Friends they talk about a "British Accent" ? WTF is that? Anyone ever heard one?

Also, to everyone else who was unfortunate enough not to be born in the United Kingdom (joke), the typical Brit is nothing like Hugh Grant in Four Weddings and a Funeral. Normal Brits don't talk like that and the only time they find it that hard to put a sentence together is when they have been down the pub and got totally rat arsed (which to be fair happens quite a lot).

Finally, one thing that needs clarifying: the actual name of our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Wales and Scotland make up Great Britain.
[HaHa to everyone else - we managed to pull off putting "Great" in the name of our country. Ahhh for the good old days when the Brittania ruled the waves, lol.]

[fish]

I'm trying to get rid of my fuckin southern accent. every time I say "y'all" I kick my self and say "two", "tew" I , well, try not to say that. I'm from the north and have no idea how I got it. Anyway ...

[Bilbo Baggins]

My accent is one of the most recognisable in the UK.

Mine int as pronounced as some though!

[ojms]

Hey guys.

just thought I'd let you know what I think:

1. Scotland and Wales want to leave England, that is fine with me we actually give them money to support there countries so if they want, they can fuck off.

2. England rules.

3. The weather here sucks.

4. England rules.

5. I am from Bristol, live in Bedfordshir(t)e and go to univeristy in Reading.

6. England Rules.

7. So does Carling Black Label.

8. So does Winamp.

9. So does England.

10. England (and it's empire) including America, have a lot of history. The only good thing that has really come from that is that english has become the language of the developed countries (means I don't have to learn any other). I think that we should ignore the differences and history and get on.

11. England rules.

12. Blame Canada (from South Park film)

13. Russia sucks (to cold)

14. In England we have enough problems with racism before we even leave the island, northerners, southerners, welsh, scots, english, west coast people, city people, country people, coloured (or not) people, religon (lets not go there!) and then you have politicans, hmm.

any way. England rules.

ojms@bigfoot.com
http://www.ojms.uklinux.net/

[RacingCaptain]

If you're konfuzed about whether GB / UK is a good place or not, here's a breakdown:
Northern Ireland: By and large, cool people - the biggest party animals I know come from here
Scotland: Pretty much a mixed bag - a whole spectrum of people. A very large proportion of stoners (from my experience, and yes, this is a good thing)
Wales:It rains a lot - I go to Uni here, and this last term, it literally rained every single day!!!!
SE England: All the money made elsewhere makes its way here. Government happens here. This part has the largest concentration of w*nkers in the known world
Rest of England: Much like everywhere else. Except Goole, which is actually an MI6 genetic project (how to make four genes go round a town of 20000)
Contentious, aye, but so true (ish)

[piesupreme]

what exactly is devolution? it happened to scotland a year or two back.
is it where everyone in scotland undiscovers the internet, relived ww2, then ww1, then completely forget about electricity. next, they de-invent the steam engine, have this habit for not washing themselves and having their death rate rise from the plague?
or is that de-evolution?

[Xerxes]

Well as far as an LA accent goes... its quite horrible...
i elongate all my a's... and horrible words are creeping into my vocabulary... yesterday i was talking to someone and i said "like, for shar!" and then i was like... did i just say that? i'm turning into a damn valley girl.... like, gag me with a spoon...

[a-arse]

In england why do alot of people presume we speak like the queen mother?
oh wellTime for Tea And Biscuits With The Queen of course using my traditional English aaaaccent.

[Shitbear]

Devolution for Scotland means that I dont have to pay any tuition fees to go to University whereas all students in England still have to. Thus leaving me with an extra £1000 a year to spend on computer hardware. Isn't life great?

[a-arse]

Grrrr :D

[Extremecriticiser]

England...

Downers: Crap food, mediocre chics, crap lager, crap accent, four channels on TV.

Uppers: UK PC Gamer: the best PC gaming mag on earth, Millenium dome, Geri Halliwell (mmmmmm).

Yet this is where I lived for 6 whole years...

Wales...

Downers: rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain and rain. And mountains from horizon to horizon.

Uppers: I don't know any.

Scotland...

Downers: The cold (though I'm used to it, cos I'm from an even colder place), the men-skirts, IRN-BRU (crappest soft drink on earth)

Uppers: Some pretty nice lager, Nessie, IRN-BRU (the best chew-bar on earth)

Ireland...

Downers: IRA, incomprehensible accent.

Uppers: Irish football, Irish lager (mmmmmm Guinness...), Irish nightclubs.

[fish]

The only good thing I've seen come out of england was Sporty Spice

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by a-arse

oh wellTime for Tea And Biscuits With The Queen of course using my traditional English aaaaccent.


oh DO be a dear and please pass the Scoooo-nes and crumpets won't you? ;)

studies have proven that English companies
with tea ladies are more productive....

[ElChevelle]

Go Tottenham Spurs!!! Kick arsenal's arse!!!
Oops, thought I was english there for a spot. I thought "The Patriot" and "Braveheart" showed what Mel Gibson must really think of England. After all, he IS from that prison island called Australia.:)

WALLACE, WALLACE, WALLACE
Bang on, mate.;)

[piesupreme]

anyone seen the film "go"?
that bloke is what an average english bloke thinks like.
"i'm bored, let's get pissed"

[cascade2]

devolution was the scots getting their independce from the british goverment, getting the own parliment, and effectively governing themselves....

is the guy from 'go' representative of the male population of britain? well. yeah. actually. anyone got a problem with guys getting stoned/liquored up? just so long as they don't go out looking for fights, and beating the shit out of each other thats ok.....oh. right. milwall fans.

[Bilbo Baggins]

Are normally an upper for the Welsh...

[JackW]

This probably should go into the Bitchlist, but since everybody seems to be using this thread to express their appreciation with/vent their frustration with our country, it's going here.

Went into HMV a few days ago to try and buy the new(ish) Alice In Chains live CD (which I've had on mp3 for a few weeks now - it's damn good, btw) only to find no record shop in the whole of our town bothering to stock it.

If you're after any CD with "garage" or "dance" in the title, you're fine. Try and get hold of an album from one of the pioneering grunge groups, and you're screwed.

On a slightly different note, it seems the only saving grace is that "Bob The Builder" may rescue us from a Christmas #1 from those lyrical masters "Westlife". Pop music sucks. At least we avoided this aforementioned boyband's rumoured cover of the Clash's masterpiece "White Man In Hammersmith Palais".

"Turning rebellion into money" - you bet.

OK, end of rant. Hope everybody has a good Christmas :)

Jack.

[DJ Egg]

Hmm . . . most ponderous!

What's all this about certain members of the talentless brainless ugly Spice Girls being the only good thing to come out of England. C'mon, be serious! Where've you been all these years?
The best (real) modern music in the world comes from Britain, and has done for the past 30 to 40 years. Yeah sure, there's plenty of good music on the full global scale, always has been & always will . . . from N & S America to Europe (historically = no disputing the overall best classical composers were from here <Russia included>, today = truly top underground electronic / techno & dance scene & plenty of hefty ambience & chill out : notably from Germany, Belgium & France) and, though to a lesser extent, also from Africa to Australasia and even Asia, etc. But overall, Britain has consistently produced the best music. Naturally, like all countries, it has it's downside aswell . . . notably the shitty commercial chart music of today's wayward & profit-based industry. You can't judge the general musical output by the national top 40, especially over the past 5 to 10 years, 'cos it's been pretty diabolical (with the odd exception here & there). You've gotta dig much deeper these days 'cos the real music scene has gone well underground.
Britain is still producing the best in proper techno, trance, breakbeat / nu-breakz, drum & bass, indie, crossover, grunge, digital dub, weird & freaky experimental vibes, ambient & chill out, trip hop, new age, space rock, death metal, etc . . . btw, I'm not into house, garage (some of the new breakz orientated stuff with the hefty monster sub bass lines ain't too bad tho'), or soul/RnB & rap whatsoever.
And, there's no disputing that we've produced some of the best and/or most successful artists from over the years, whether you or I are into them or not, there's been: The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Hawkwind, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Fleetwood Mac, Free, King Crimson, Thin Lizzy, Roxy Music / Brian Eno, T-Rex, Gong, Bowie, Sex Pistols, Stranglers, The Clash, Buzzcocks, Siouxsie & Banshees, The Police, Psychedelic Furs, Motorhead, Killing Joke, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Cocteau Twins, The Cure, U2, Simple Minds, Joy Division, The Fall, Clannad, Primal Scream, Stone Roses, The Shamen, Orbital, The Orb, Underworld, KLF, Seal, All About Eve, Bomb The Bass, Massive Attack, Portishead, Ozric Tentacles, TransGlobal Underground, Eat Static, Astralasia, Dub Syndicate, Moby, Banco De Gaia, Fluke, Leftfield, Future Sound Of London, Sabres Of Paradise, to name but a few, and on to some of the even more recent top indie & crossover techno bands . . . the list is endless & could probably take up about 10 pages, so I'd better stop there, especially b4 I start to list some of the even more obscure stuff.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm sure we could all make up an (almost) equally impressive American list too. Then again, & especially so these days, a lot of the best music is produced by bands with multicultural personnel from right around the globe, and that I believe is definitely (one of) the way/s forward.
Hey, I should know, I've been a DJ for over 20 years!

Hey, ExtremeCriticizer dude:
Where abouts did you live in Britain for 6 years then?
It sounds like you were in some remote village in Cornwall or something :)
You can get absolutely any type of food over here . . . how can it be crap?
There's American, Italian, Indian, Chinese, Greek, Spanish, Mexican, restaurants, takeaways, supermarkets, drive-ins, coffee shops, the lot . . . and even fish & chips too :D
And what do ya mean by "crap lager"? Is there any lagers that can't be gotten over here, either on draught or import? You can even get Guinness everywhere too!
Finally, there's 5 national terrestial TV channels nowadays, though most people have also got Sky, Cable or OnDigital.

And as for accents . . . well, that's a totally different kettle of fish! :)

Ee by gum, thar nos!

Cockney, "Ooh arr" Devon/Somerset country bumpkin style, la-di-da posh gits, Midlands & Brummy, NE Geordie, NW Scouse/Mancunian, N & S Yorkshire, Scottish, Welsh, Irish . . . and all the many dialectic variations . . . it makes ya wonder how we can get so many different accents into one small island.

Merry Xmas y'all ;)

Egg
/End of mini rant type epic thingy.

ps.
Hey, Jack:
Aren't there any decent indie / underground record shops where you live?

[DJ Egg]

pps.
Leeds are the best footy team in the land :p

[piesupreme]

originaly quoted by DJegg:
And, there's no disputing that we've produced some of the best and/or most successful artists from over the years, whether you or I are into them or not, there's been: The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Hawkwind, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Fleetwood Mac, Free, King Crimson, Thin Lizzy, Roxy Music / Brian Eno, T-Rex, Gong, Bowie, Sex Pistols, Stranglers, The Clash, Buzzcocks, Siouxsie & Banshees, The Police, Psychedelic Furs, Motorhead, Killing Joke, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Cocteau Twins, The Cure, U2, Simple Minds, Joy Division, The Fall, Clannad, Primal Scream, Stone Roses, The Shamen, Orbital, The Orb, Underworld, KLF, Seal, All About Eve, Bomb The Bass, Massive Attack, Portishead, Ozric Tentacles, TransGlobal Underground, Eat Static, Astralasia, Dub Syndicate, Moby, Banco De Gaia, Fluke, Leftfield, Future Sound Of London, Sabres Of Paradise, to name but a few

you forgot oasis

[Indyrod]

You guys all have the same reference books? pretty cool collection of musical artists there. You didn't leave Joe Cocker out of that list I hope....I'll check again.

[DJ Egg]

Like I said, if I was to include everybody, the list would go on forever.
Tho' you're right about Joe Cocker, what a guy!
Not sure about Oasis tho' ?????? Next thing you'll be saying, what about Verve, Blur & Pulp.
Others I definitely missed were Radiohead, Prodigy, Pop Will Eat Itself, Meat Beat Manifesto, Charlatans, hmm . . . not sure about Ride, Supergrass, etc.
There's also : Jesus & Mary Chain, Sisters Of Mercy, The Mission, The Cult, Magazine, Bauhaus, Japan, This Mortal Coil, Loop, Alien Sex Fiend, Rain Parade, New Order, etc . . . and that's just the indie section.
I mean, I could go as far as including: Elgar, Delius, Holst . . . Kate Bush, Camel, Soft Machine, Dr. Didg, Divine Soma Experience, Phil Thornton, Alpha & Omega, Zion Train, David Holmes, Suns Of Arqa, Plastikman, Irresistible Force . . . fuck Norman Cook tho'!

If ya want more, check out my website -> MeggaMusicCharts & Home Listening Chart.
That's where we definitely hit the more obscure sections.

Hey, feel free to add any I missed below, but like I said, in reality . . . the list is endless.

[Matt]

Originally posted by DJEgg

Britain is still producing the best in proper techno, trance, breakbeat / nu-breakz, drum & bass



Great. We've got ourselves to blame. Is there such a thing a proper techno etc?. Try some real music, you know real instruments, they sound a lot better. All that electronic and synthesized stuff is so fake, nothing can beat guitars, drums etc.

Probably the best British is Queen and you ain't mentioned them. Those bands / musicians may have been sucessful and influential, with the exception of a few aren't so good. There's no way Oasis should be there piesupreme and I still can't believe how the Stone Roses got in there.

Anyway Britain has produced some great music and bands but America is ahead at the minute. If i picked my fave 20 bands only two at most would be British. Chart music in Britain is not worth listening to, thanks to the greedy record companies who are more concerned about money not music.


Oh yeah, Just got back from Leeds, back home to listen to some great mp3's.


Oh you've just posted again. Radiohead, no way and as for Blur, best British band of the last decade.

[DJ Egg]

Matt dude:
I think you either missed the point or you need to read my posts here again, mate!
Queen? Shite! Some of their earlier stuff wasn't too bad, but they sold out after Bo'Rhapsody.
You just (mis)quoted a small sentence and ranted on like some half-baked idiot.
I hate it when people do that! :mad:
You've obviously not heard too much good British music of late, especially if you judge everything by the appalling state of the charts. The British underground scene has never been livelier & is thriving with "guitars & REAL instruments". The crossover element is the major key factor (combining acoustic with electric, analog with digital, east with west, etc). If only Dream FM (major pirate radio station in Leeds, '92 - '96) was still around, you'd get to hear some of it. I was HeadOfMusic, btw.

I'm also very aware of the fact that there's loads of hefty music comin' from America too.
There's loads of hefty music being made worldwide (I'm sure I already mentioned that above);
But this thread is about the UK, so I kinda felt at home here.
Sorry I even bothered now. I suppose I should go back to giving tech support instead. :(

Obviously, peoples' musical tastes vary on a very large scale. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, regardless of how ignorant they may or may not be.
Also, I didn't say that I liked or listened to everyone in the list.
The Stone Roses first LP is one of the biggest selling records of all time!
They didn't need to make another one for 5 years because of it!

Hey, I'd like to see (eg.) THEMike's list, or any of our other British mods!

So, where did ya go in Leeds then? Except for SubDub, virtually all the clubs are crap, unless I'm playin' :)
Ya should of come round to my place instead & listened to some proper hefty real music. :D

Laterz -> I'm outta here -> Egg.

[Matt]

I quoted the right part but nevermind.

If you're going to say stuff like Queen shite then maybe you should stay in tech support. They're probably the best British band ever and i'm not even going to start to say what I think of people who use the word 'sellout'.

No I haven't heard a lot of British music of late. Sort of given up with it. I know there's some good stuff though (out of the charts of course)

I can't explain why the Stone Roses album sold so well. Just one of them unsolved mysteries.

I only went to a crappy club in Leeds but then so are most clubs judging by what they play. So you play some good stuff then, like what? I hope we're talking Metallica etc here.

[Extremecriticiser]

I lived in Newcastle, so there.

As for crap food'n' crap lager, I mean "navtive" ones, not imports and all that crap! :D

[DJ Egg]

So ya telling me stuff like Crazy Little Thing Called Love isn't shite & a sellout?

If Queen are the best British band ever then God help the worst! (ie. god help today's chart acts)
Queen 1 + 2, Sheer Heart Attack, A.N.A.T.O, A.D.A.T.R - those LP's had their moments, but after that, yakkkkk, tho' Under Pressure was pretty cool (thanks to Bowie's input).

Anyway, imho, Hawkwind are the best band ever (32 years & still going strong)

Yeah, I possess & play some early Metallica (the first non-British band I've mentioned)
If you want me to mention some other non-British artistes, then I'll see you 10 pages later.
btw, I have one of the largest music collections on the planet, but that's another story.

And who gives a fuck about the Stone Roses, although the new remix LP ain't bad!

Anyway, forget it
/I grow weary of . . . insolence, ignorance, bigotry, obstinacy, pomposity & shite music

[DJ Egg]

Originally posted by Extremecriticiser
I lived in Newcastle, so there.

As for crap food'n' crap lager, I mean "native" ones, not imports and all that crap! :D

Cool
Not some remote village in Cornwall then :D
Ya mean you're not even into Newky Brown?
Hey, I see Speedy scored a crackin' goal last week. What a hero!

[Extremecriticiser]

Ah yes. Yup, we love heroes.

[Xerxes]

Handel.... the best act out of britan ever... bar none..... ;)

[DJ Egg]

I see you said you "lived" in Newcastle, but whereabouts are you now? Still in the UK or elsewhere?

/It's 6:10am here . . . I/we must be mad!

[edit]
By heck Xerxes, we're going back a bit there!
Tho' you're right . . . how could I possibly forget Handel :)

[cascade2]

your'e forgeting the grand pappy of all that is: Mr I. Newton

[Extremecriticiser]

I was alive and right there when Gorbochov screwd up the proud Soviet Union. When Boris Yeltsin became president, I went straight to UK, where I lived for about six years until about four years ago my father died of a car crash, so I had to come back, scrape a living out of sales managing for a super-successful vodka company.

[Bilbo Baggins]

You left out Porcupine Tree egg...

Do you listen to the Ozrics?

[DJ Egg]

Originally posted by cascade2
your'e forgetting the grand pappy of all that is: Mr I. Newton
Was Isaac Newton a musician / composer as well? I thinketh not! "Relativity" is the key word :)

Originally posted by watadoo
I thought Devolution was that early eighties band of Spud boys, Devo. The guys with the white jump suits and weird hats.
"Are we not men? No, we are Devo!"
"Mongoloid" was always one of my fave Devo trax (Happy as a human being).

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
You left out Porcupine Tree egg...

Do you listen to the Ozrics?


It would seem that me & you are the only ones who've heard of the mighty Porcupine Tree.
The Sky Moves Sideways is one of THE all-time classic LP's.
I've got the ltd. blue vinyl with poster, promo version . . . wow!

I used to listen to the Ozrics many years ago, b4 Joey & Ed left to form Eat Static.
I much prefer all their older stuff (early 80's to early 90's), but not as keen on their more recent works. They tend to have stagnated a little.
Actually, I've got about 10 cassette tapes of studio sessions from the early to mid 80's full of stuff from b4 they'd even officially released anything. Joey gave me them sometime in the late 80's. I've also DJ'ed along side Eat Static on numerous occasions at many Megadogs and festivals. "Sploosh", however, is still one of my all-time favorite trax & I still play some of the old stuff quite often.

I've also DJ'ed on the same bill at Megadog/Club Dog as the likes of Underworld, Orbital, Chemical Brothers, Banco De Gaia, DreadZone, TGU & many others, but that's another story.

To add to the list of heavily influential British bands:
(* = not ones that I am/were necessarily into) :
The Kinks*, The Jam, Clapton*/Yardbirds/Cream, Alexis Korner Band*, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers*, Manfred Mann*, Spencer Davies Group*, Deep Purple*(+ all the bands that followed after they split up), Wishbone Ash, UFO, Gentle Giant, Roy Harper, 10cc*, Spacemen 3, Duritti Column, Alan Parsons Project, Gordon Giltrap, Colosseum, Brand X, do the Art Of Noise class as British?, Bill Nelson, Camel, 999, The Lurkers, The Ruts, Monachrome Set, The Pop Group, The Slits, Alien Sex Fiend, Psychic TV, Throbbing Gristle, Renegade SoundWave, The Specials*, UB40*, Steel Pulse, Adrian Sherwood/On-U Sound Records, Future Sound Of London, Death In Vegas, Roni Size, etc etc etc, tho' I suppose I should've added this to the above list to make one big list.
Maybe I should've added the * in the above list/s aswell, so as to avoid certain people misinterpreting my post/s again, ahem.

A lot of the stuff I listen to & play these days tends to be a lot more obscure, so it's pointless posting a list here if no-one's ever heard of the majority of them (sad)!
More details = available in the MeggaMusic Charts (+ all the archives) & Home Listening charts c/o my website.

Hey, I could make up a pretty impressive American list (starting with Hendrix, Zappa, CSNY, Santana, Talking Heads . . . oh shit, stop me now . . . . quick . . .), plus a damn good rest of the world one too, but I ain't gonna bother here (phew).

Any others I forgot about?
We won't go too heavily into recent tech/electronica/dj side of things, otherwise the list would go on eternally.

[/added a few more to list]

[Edited by DJEgg on 12-24-2000 at 11:18 AM]

[Bilbo Baggins]

Really? Man that is cool.

[cascade2]

Originally posted by DJEgg
Was Isaac Newton a musician / composer as well?

I guess you have to think about it, with a little more...depth...i guess...
+ they guy was english, so....y'know. national pride and so on.

[fish]

Originally posted by DJEgg
Hey, I could make up a pretty impressive American list (starting with Hendrix, Zappa, CSNY, Santana, Talking Heads . . . oh shit, stop me now . . . . quick . . .), plus a damn good rest of the world one too, but I ain't gonna bother here (phew).



Wasn't Santana Mexican or Spanish?

[Reverend Ike]

phisherman -

Carlos Santana was born in Mexico in 1947, but the band Santana was formed in 1967 in San Francisco and has been closely associated with the SF area ever since.

[DJ Egg]

cascade2
Yes, absolutely!
Shall we list all the British inventors & scientists too?
. . . any other categories aswell, maybe?
/hmmmm, yes, me very deep & profound man.

Rev / phisherman
Re: "American"
I was kinda thinking that this should include the whole of the North, Central & South Americas.

[shock, horror]
Hey Rev, though under that concept, we could even say that Hendrix was British.
I mean, c'mon, he lived here (London) for the best part of his career & the other 2 members of the Experience were both British dudes (Noel Redding/Mitch Mitchell) :D

ps. I'd definitely also include Rush in the Americas list, as Canada classes as North America.
Agreed?
[all ye praise Neil Young too]

But hey, this is a UK-related only thread, isn't it ?!?!

[Reverend Ike]

Sorry, globalEgg -

You know that over here in the colonies, we tend to be a bit self-centered, always assuming American=USA.

:D :D

[RhinoTrip]

Ireland's where it's at man - Dublin is the hottest city in Europe.

And the Spaniards were gobshites.

[ElChevelle]

Wallace, Wallace, Wallace!:p

[EvilTenster]

Originally posted by DJEgg
Originally posted by cascade2
your'e forgetting the grand pappy of all that is: Mr I. Newton
Was Isaac Newton a musician / composer as well? I thinketh not! "Relativity" is the key word :)


If you are talking about Einstein, but he was Austrian...

[bengan]

The uk is great better that the US

[. - .... .- -. ....]

Originally posted by DEckaRD
GB - Republic of Ireland = UK

It's because of the Queen. They don't want her in the Republic of Ireland...


Bullshit - Great Britian WAS the collective name for Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. Ireland hasn't been part of Great Britain since around 1920. UK and Great Britain are more or less the same thing now.

[fwgx]

the us sucks you can't drik till your 21 or something ridiculose - what's with that? 21? that's well old. you must all be puffs over there

[piesupreme]

face it, the queen and the entire of the royal family sucks. everyone knows that, including me.

[ojms]

Yeah but don't you think it's cute how we have a half german royal family who are all inbred??

[EvilTenster]

Yup

[bluetape2k1]

I think they are not needed as it really wouldn't really surprise me if they were imbreeds but hey what ever turns you on I suspose :)

BlueTape2k1

[piesupreme]

Originally posted by bluetape2k1
I think they are not needed as it really wouldn't really surprise me if they were imbreeds but hey what ever turns you on I suspose :)


what he/she said.

[xapec]

Originally posted by bengan
The uk is great better that the US
lets just say all countries are equal. exept for the fact tyhe u.s. defense department created TCP/IP thus the Internet we use. and monarchy is a bit outdated. but all countries are equal (exept those really really small ones with a net worth of like $20-if there is any)

[MJA495]

Defamatory message deleted by Twilightseer

[Edited by Twilightseer on 02-15-2001 at 09:14 AM]

[RacingCaptain]

Here we go: the thread descends into xenophobia. Just a matter of time really. Go and listen to Bob Marley FFS!
And the TCP/IP thing: fair enough, but http was invented by an Englishman. In Geneva.
Cake's nice, isn't it?
Hey: senior-ness! Good God!

[Paranoid_Sid]

Right, some one has to put you in your place. I'm english, not british and i don't live in the united kingdom. There isn't a uk any more. The damn Scotts have thier own goverment and are their country now, the Irish have been fighting for independance and we don't really want the welsh. Any way, like i was saying, I'm proud to be english. We are a great counrty, any one who says different can comee over here and find me, because i'm mad bad and proud to be english. GRRRRRRRRRRRR

[ElChevelle]

Wallace Wallace Wallace http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/anym/brave.gif

[piesupreme]

the english hate the americans, the americans hate the english. that is the way it's always going to be. forever. until the world blows up.

[xapec]

maybee the british dont like america because we basicly formed a country against their king at the beggining. i dont hate the british (007 kicks ass)

[MamiyaOtaru]

you know, in three years of living there, I never missed things like garbage disposals, garage door openers, deep water toilets, central heating, gas for under 4 bucks a gallon, clothes with colors other than black/maroon/dark whatever, no smoking sections, etc. America isn't really that great after all.

[bluetape2k1]

Originally posted by piesupreme
the english hate the americans, the americans hate the english. that is the way it's always going to be. forever. until the world blows up.

I'm Scottish but I've been in living in Manchester for about 8 years now and I like some of Britain but I would like to be in america for a few reasons

America

1. nice weather
2. babes on the beaches (puppies)
3. you don't have to way long for games and consoles to come out
4. Tv is better there that it is in the UK
5. things are cheaper other there

blah blah blah blah blah.....:)

UK (all of britain)

1. rain(pissing it down), snow, windy,NO sun(unless you want the newspaper)
2. Scanky slappers who charge you on the beaches(if you know what I mean)
3. wait a year till other countries have got new games(thats why there are so much imports than originals in britain)
4. if you did not have sky all you would have is 4 and a half channels (BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV,CH4, CH5 the half channel....well if your lucky to see anything from that channel)
5. The goverment screw us out of billions a week (greedy bastards)

Got I love the UK..........NOT

maybe the best thing for this planet is for a new beginning
someone blow the planet up so we can TRY and sort it out PLEASE........:) only messing

BlueTape2k1

[piesupreme]

originally posted by bluetape2k1:
rain(pissing it down), snow, windy,NO sun(unless you want the newspaper)


lol, but you forgot extremely cold, fog, drizzle and clouds, no matter what time of the day it is.
:) :D :)

[admiralkorak]

What about Iceland. Where do you think Britan gets a good share of their cod.(Iceland had to ship it somewhere where they would eat it, Icelanders won't even feed it to their sheep). Iceland is a great country, a little cold but other than that, pretty ok. Iceland shure kicked the Brits ass when they tried to stop Iceland from expanding their fishing rights.
ICELAND ROCKS!!!!