Survey: Bandwidth

[malloc]

Hey all, I am just starting out and am going to be using live365 for bandwidth. I wanted to get an idea of how other people were getting their bandwidth, especially some of the big dogs ;)
Are people paying for it? If so, are you recouping your costs through advertising? Are friends with fat T1's lending a helping hand? I would be interested in seeing how people managed this issue, which has been vexing me since I began. I am going to be forced to spend 200/month on a fast DSL connection just to get two streams (128k & 24k) up to live365!

[DeSano]

Well before you go out and spend $200 for a DSL connection I'd check out some of the commercial company's that sell bandwidth for SHOUTcast servers. Although I don't use them, I've heard http://www.wedgemusic.com is very good, but there are others who price competitively, search some of the old threads and you should find a match for what you need.

[wedgemusic]

Wow, thanks for the good word DeSano :) Anyways, DeSano is right that it would probably cost you a lot less to go with a commercial company such as us, WedgeMusic, or MPrelay, etc to stream your music. Just a quick question, why is DSL costing you $200 a month? Is it one of those "business class" DSL lines?

[malloc]

Yeah, I need to pay pacbell 200/month for guaranteed 384K upstream bandwidth. This is so that I can stream a a 128K stream and a 24K stream up to live365 for relay. I believe this is still cheaper than most alternatives though, as that gives me 365 128K listeners for 200/month, right?

[SomaFM]

yes, that is probably your cheapest bet. Assuming you don't mind the intro commercial that Live365 puts on.

Bandwidth is really expensive if you want a big audience.

Suggestions - go to work for a big web hosting company, or something like Critical Path, and ask them to let you put a server on their multiple T3 connections.

[acmeclick]

I hope I can help you out I currently supply bandwidth at the best rates on the net. Feeling free to give me a call and I'll try and help you in anyway I can....

http://www.acmecast.com

[Shirow]

Mindspring offers 1.5/128 DSL for $50 a month, which I have, but I normally get 40-50kps upload on it. i'm running a 56k + 24k stream at the same time, and I can still upload at 30kps without skipping.

[mp3bynet-com]

we are looking into hosting webcasting and truly we found some amazing prices.

your own cobalt server 20gig space for about $180-200 on t3.

you can add anything you want. PCANYWHERE in to it or VPN.

once we looked at resale hosting but too much trouble.

let me know what you are interested in because I have a friend with a oc48 he is starting off and he'll give you a bitching deal compare to everyone else.

[xapec]

I use my good old roadrunner cable service, $39.95 a month for up to 1.5 mbps, nut i normally get 900 kbps, with 100k uploading (normally)

[Shirow]

You're lucky to get that speed tho

[SomaFM]

mp3bynet-com-

You'll find that if you get one of those deals on your own Cobalt Raq on a "T3" you'll be paying for all transfers over a certian amount each month. There was another thread on this, it does a breakdown on number of users and data transferred each month.

[mp3bynet-com]

Originally posted by xapec
I use my good old roadrunner cable service, $39.95 a month for up to 1.5 mbps, nut i normally get 900 kbps, with 100k uploading (normally)

Seems that you did not use/installed the patch.

I was gettin 900 d/l with about 100kb upload but after patch I get 2.4 to 4 and about 300-400 kb upload.

Check sites for patches I forgot which but there are out there. They no longer give those out when they install the service because they gain bandwidth etc...etc...

If I use certain software I can get same speed upload and download but for certain things only where media and most stuff has nothing to do with.

[wedgemusic]

Road Runner sucks in my area. I've got the new Sprint Wireless Broadband and it owns! Oh ya, no matter what hosting company you pick, there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth on web hosting/dedicated servers. Come on, think about it, they pay per GB so why should you get all you want free? I almost forgot, Cobalt RaQs are weak... weak. They couldn't push 100gb of data a month even if they were on a T3. Linux, linux, linux!

[SomaFM]

Not to get too far off topic, but Cobalt RaQs *are* Linux. The original ones (with MIPS processors) as well as the newer Intel based ones.

You're not going to get the Shoutcast server for a MIPS RaQ though.

(I have a couple of these installed, and they can push a lot of data if you're just talking static content. 100gb a month is 2.4mb/min, and that's nothing.)

By the way, remember with Linux and BSD, your ethernet card matters. You'll get a lot better performance with an Intel Pro 100 than you will with a Netgear card.

[wedgemusic]

I would never ever consider a Cobalt RaQ a Linux platform. In my opinion they are a disgrace to the operating system. If someone is going to put down the money for a dedicated system they should at least get something worth their money. The only reason I even sell Cobalt RaQ systems is that newbies like them because they are so easy to use; their only strong point. As for pushing 100GB, I can tell you that from my experience a RaQ could theoretically push 100GB of static content, but never of any dynamic or streaming content. They just aren't powerful enough.