View Full Version : Playlist takes too long to come up
31st January 2001, 18:39
I've got about 3000 mp3's and the 2.71 version was cool but the 2.72 version is kinda frustrating, because it takes a goods minute or so to come up. All the other versions you hit the playlist button and it came right up, thats my only beef the the 2.72 version
3rd February 2001, 12:50
It's strange that this is happening, but as a fix, you might want to try this:
Goto: Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> Options
Uncheck : "Sort files on Load"
Change "Read titles on" from "load" to "display"
...or try all 3 options (load/display/play) to see if one of them is causing the problem?
3rd February 2001, 18:26
I checked what you told me to and everything is exactly like its supposed to be.
3rd February 2001, 23:21
Have you tried :
Unchecking "Sort files on load" & checking "Read titles on Play"?
Still the same?
Probably not what ya want to hear, but you can try disabling the use of ID3 tags:
Prefs -> Input -> MPEG Audio Decoder -> Configure -> Title tab
Maybe also check that all the other options in here are compatible with your system.
Apart from this, have you installed any 3rd party plugins?
Particularly : Gen Purpose; extra Input; active DSP/FX or vis
Are you sure you've not got 2 active input plug-ins that handle mp3's?
You could also try closing Winamp, going to the Winamp dir & deleting winamp.ini
A new ini file is created next time you open Winamp with all the default settings.
3000 mp3's in one playlist is rather large & would normally take a bit of time to load.
This obviously depends on your processor speed & RAM.
Maybe try splitting the list into 2 or 3 seperate ones.
You can always enable multiple instances (Prefs -> Options) and have all 3 playlists up & running in 3 concurrent instances of Winamp.
However, if the same playlist loaded almost instantly in v2.71, then it should also in 2.72
Let us know how ya get on!
5th February 2001, 02:12
I am having all the same problems as this guy!!! I have tried all that y'all suggest with the same poor results. I used to pull up a directory and it came up nearly instantly, even if my whole playlist was called up (5,000 songs!).
Moreover, my ID3 tags are reverting to their old form, not to what I converted all to (which is how they are written on my hard-drive).
Looks like I could fix the ID3 problem if y'all can tell me how to disable the use of the ID3v2 to display instead of ID3v1.
And, when are you going to have a new version that works more like an older version???
6th February 2001, 20:52
Sorry to hear you're having problems. :(
If you're using all the default settings & don't use any extra plugins,
then I honestly don't know what the problem can be.
Please include your full system specs in any reply.
(CPU + speed, RAM, Win OS, Soundcard, Videocard, DirectX, IE version, etc)
I've already mentioned all the relevant Winamp settings above . . .
. . . I'm pretty much stumped from thereon. :confused:
It could be an incompatibility issue, or a conflict/problem caused by one of the other default input plugins, or possibly the MPEG Audio Decoder itself?
All I can say is that I & 1000's of others don't experience this problem with 2.72
My fairly large playlist loads instantly, tho' it ain't half as big as yours :)
In the meantime, maybe someone else might come along with more suggestions for a fix?
If you'd like to return to an earlier version, eg 2.71, goto:
Re: disabling ID3v2
There may well be tools that can batch modify this setting, but with Winamp you'll have to modify each mp3 track individually :eek: via : playlist entry -> right click -> file info.
This will bring up the ID3 tag editor for each track. The ID3 tag is actually written into the header of each file. If you've enabled both v1 & v2, then simply uncheck the use of v2. If you want to copy v2 to v1, click the relevant radio button at the bottom. Make sure none of the actual mp3's (or their containing folders) are Read-Only, otherwise you won't be able to modify the ID3 tags.
Best of luck, and I'm sorry I couldn't be of more assistance
Honestly, I tried my damnedest!
Winamp 3 is on the way, tho' there may well be one or two more 2.x versions b4.
7th February 2001, 00:37
DJEgg, thanks for your efforts. I d-loaded every version prior to 2.72 and it took until 2.65 before winamp worked properly for me.... i have a 6 month old nearly top of the line gateway. tons of ram, pentium 3, top of the line sound card,,,strangs.
Hey, I gave more exact instrunctions on how to keep Winamp 2.72 from reverting back to old ID3 tags (search topics under my name and look under the ID3 tag stuff..) but basically it just involves going in to the mp3 audio editor and on the 2nd tab (I believe) uncheck the box re: ID3tagv1/v2. Then the playlists will come up for folks the way they did in prev versions (like 2.65 and earlier, which is what I upgraded from)...
7th February 2001, 02:00
Yeah, I know that, but that option actually disables ID3 tags totally!
Unchecking "Use ID3 v1/v2 tags" causes Winamp to display just the filename - %7
(- %8 - %9 for path & extension)
It's interesting to note that v2.65 fixed your problem.
This was the last version not to support ID3 v2.
There definitely must be some connection in that!
I wonder if it's a conflict with the MJuice Decoder?
The only other default input plugin that can read ID3v2 tags.
Hmmm . . . ponderous!
7th February 2001, 03:56
I think if I better described what was happening and what I have done it will help you diagnose.
First off I "clean-up" all my d-loaded songs on the HD (to make them just artist and song name, etc). Next I use an MP3 editor to rewrite all ID3 tags to match what is on my hard drive - artist then song title (the v1 tags are all that are re-written when I do this -- right).
In 2.65 when I Add a Dir it comes up instantly, artist-song title (just like on my HD) and song length.
In 2.72 the artist-song (just as written on my HD) pop up instantly (the ID3v1). Then slowly, one song at a time, the length of song pops up and right after that the 'old' ID3 tag info replaces my %7 info. It is in only about 1 or 2 in 5 cases where the song info changes (I guess that is in the cases where there is v2 info that conflicts with my edited v1 info and overwrites? but I'm no techie - I'm a physical therapist for god sakes! Most of my PT friends can't use excel!). Could the problem be I have edited ID3s with an editor? That doesn't make sense, but the slow is from Winamp looking at each and every song (taking about 1 sec per song) and deciding its length and name...
Last bit of info: Right after the playlist comes up I can hit Play and get music pronto, all the while Winamp goes along plugging in song lengths and changing (or doesn't change) the way the song/artist display. Of course, the most common title change is various or unknown artist (as those are the tags that my MP3 editor has re-written to match my HD file names).
At this point, if you have bigger fish to fry, no worries. I am sure that with further upgrades I will eventually be fine, and now that I am back to 2.56 I'm happy again. If you've got time, solve away...
7th February 2001, 18:12
But since then I,ve went back to the previous version and everythings cool.
6th April 2002, 23:15
Cirq, your slow loading playlist problem has a very simple cause: since Winamp v2.666, reading titles "on display" (Preferences -> Options) is extremely slow. Use "Read titles on load".
You can find more info in the following thread:
7th April 2002, 10:30
My my, a 14 month old thread revived... :D
Hey, I've learnt a lot since then and would definitely have given a different answer if this was posted more recently. Yup, there was a widespread problem reported around the time regarding the "read titles on display" setting... has it been fixed yet? :confused: (I've always used the "load" setting) ;)
12th April 2002, 20:24
i am having exactly the same problem. i recently updated (do not remember from which version though, probably 2.666) to 2.79 and also got that nasty bug. i tried all suggestes fixes (all three setting of read titles etc.) but it didn't help. the only ting that did help was disabling id3 tags, but thats not really what i want :)
i don't want to go back to earlier versions, i like the crossfade so much :)
ps. the problem is not only that it takes about half a minute to load the playlist, but also winamp pauses about 10 seconds between seconds.
13th April 2002, 05:52
winamp pauses about 10 seconds between secondsNot sure if I fully understand what you mean here,
but try these troubleshooter guides:
You might also want to try installing the latest version of the official wa2update (http://www.blorp.com/~peter/zips/wa2update.exe) patch, last updated a couple of days ago (new DS Crossfader), also available separately with the Experimental DS plugin here (http://www.blorp.com/~peter/zips/out_ds2.exe)
But make sure you also check out those troubleshooters, and definitely remove any other (potentially dodgy) 3rd-party plugins first (input, general purpose, etc).
13th April 2002, 14:56
i meant hangs 10 seconds when it changes from one song to another :)
i tried all the suggestes things i found in this forum, though nothing did help. i went back to 2.64 and it all works great now.
17th April 2002, 23:24
23²³, you don't need to revert entirely to v2.666 (the latest version without the bug). Before I found the cause of this (Read titles on display instead of on load), I used to have a "Winampower" compilation which consisted of:
+ winamp.exe v2.666
+ everything else (plugins, AVS presets etc.) from the latest version.
This bundle worked and still works perfectly. You might want to try this, if reading titles on load doesn't work for you.
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