Girls are the downfall of society [Archive] - Page 4

Frumpus

5th May 2002, 00:46

(Boy, so many first time posters here. Thanx for the welcome, Papa. I actually decided to read all 753 posts before adding, so I feel like I pretty much know you all. I guess I'll share my thoughts and spill my guts; hope it will be of some use :)

Hurt people HURT people. Two years ago I married a woman who I REALLY should have spent more time getting to know first. She had "baggage" (well, I had my share too for that matter!) from her wild past and dysfunctional childhood which was swept-under-the-rug and never really dealt with. She found a "new life" and put on a nice smile, but the old ways and old hurts and were only dormant, not healed. She had temporarily escaped the pain of resolving them. (I paid for that later.) Unlike her, I had a relatively nurturing upbringing and took for granted that because we had a tremendous amount in common, we'd be a good fit.

If you're just looking for a fuck, perhaps you won't care about reading this stuff (hmm, don't we have enough STD's already?! Plus, from viewing all these posts about getting burned, I'd say emotional scarring is even more damaging!). However, if you're looking for a relationship, make sure you check out each others' past hurts/habits/mindsets. DON'T OVERLOOK this if you plan to be "real" and vulnerable and intimate with each other. The "in-love" or "honeymoon" period (where you show your "best side" to your partner and hide your own shortcomings) will eventually fade. Fact. That's when I found out that my "former wife" had an unnatural resistance to opening up/trusting. At some point the personal facades/defense mechanisms HAVE to come down, else intimacy just won't grow any further, and the relationship will stagnate.

We got married, though I don't believe her heart was in her vows. Within two months she wanted out and seperated us (yeah, that's fast even for Hollywood!) That will be two years ago this July. Tomorrow or Monday (May 5 or 6th) is when [her] divorce becomes legal. I'd forgotten how sharp this kind of pain can be.

You can't have intimacy without vulnerability, and you can't be vulnerable while trying to protect yourself from pain/danger all the time.

Take it from someone who is still reeling from two years of hell and anguish: hurt people HURT people. I tried to help her through it, (maybe I even pushed her too much to seek help) but I think she was just too scared of opening old wounds. It seems her way of dealing with conflict in life was to escape it. No, I don't hate her - though I'm angry at her for hurting and scarring me. Paying back pain for pain doesn't erase the pain - at least not in the long run. I hope she finds healing - sooner rather than later! Would I get back together with her? No, not in her present state. There'd have to be alot of healing for both of us seperately before that would ever be a possibility. Spare yourself the pain and make wise choices.

(I know this next part is "old" news now, but I just read it last night:)
Originally posted by spunkbubble
It's so damn frustrating. I just want to grab him and shake him and scream. Just scream and scream until I can't speak anymore. Scream until we both break down and cry, scream until he sees what he's doing is so wrong; scream until he bloody well sees what I see - Until he sees I am meant to be with him;

Yeah, I TOTALLY know what that feels like! Some things DON'T change from generation to generation. Pain, joy, anger, longing - these emotions are as strong today as they were yesteryear, as they will be tomorrow. This is grieving; it sometimes takes a long time.

Originally posted by missyob
life is full of different stages. A person that is 16 does not fully understand the stages that a person in their 20's is going through. I dont think it would be fair to cheat a 16 year old out of being a kid and going through their teenage years by thrusting them into the world of a young adult.
~ Missy

I've got to agree with Missy. Man, do I ever feel old and tired when I see young people in high school with all their energy. I think, "No way. I couldn't have been that exuberant, that energetic, that, er. . "spunky" ;) I've always been a "thinker"; my mind is always chugging away, thinking, analyzing, etc. Now more than ever I'm alot more reflective about life. Teens are being robbed of their youth. What our current society has done to relationships and sexuality is horrendous. Spunk? The fact that you (and billions of other young women) were already worried about "your body" in your early teens is a testament to this fact. This is just wrong; looks have been inflated way beyond their value.

Geez, I sure wish the emphasis would be on teaching kids emotional and social maturity. Moreover, I wish physical beauty reflected people's inside status! Want to make a billion bucks? Create a device (like X-Ray glasses?) that will do that at a glance! (Hmm, is the movie, Shallow Hal, anything like this? I haven't seen it.) My wife was - still is - a knockout! But for all her beauty, if her "date-ability" showed on her outside, she would be scabbed and scarred and armoured and ugly. She has caused me more anguish than any other human I've encountered in my 27 years.

P.S. Very sorry to ramble; (just catching-up after 750 posts!). . . just wanting to spare others some heartache.

P.P.S. BTW, Spunk, I know it's excruciating to be told to "let go" of someone you are still "tied to" - believe me; don't expect an easy road, but it sounds like if the best thing to do is to let him go. If he's too ignorant to care or know, then he's not mature enough for you.

Bilbo Baggins

5th May 2002, 01:31

I'm sorry bout your marriage. Hopefully you will find the right person some day. :up:

spunkbubble

8th May 2002, 10:46

Originally posted by papadoc
Hey Spunkbubble http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxwave.gif
It's been a long time since I checked in here.
But believe it's not because I've forgotten about you.
Let me know how things are going, my dear.

And this thread should never die!!!
It's probably the most important non-technical related thread here.
There are bits and pieces of individual's hearts, minds, and souls here...
written with emotion, honesty, and care.
And with an occasional mix of humor for good measure...:):up:

Papadoc!!! *cuddles* How's everything being going for you? It's been ages! :( Did you end up getting MSN??

***
Agreed, this thread is - and I've said this before - therapy. For all of us.

spunkbubble

8th May 2002, 11:11

Originally posted by Frumpus
Spunk? The fact that you (and billions of other young women) were already worried about "your body" in your early teens is a testament to this fact. This is just wrong; looks have been inflated way beyond their value.

P.P.S. BTW, Spunk, I know it's excruciating to be told to "let go" of someone you are still "tied to" - believe me; don't expect an easy road, but it sounds like if the best thing to do is to let him go. If he's too ignorant to care or know, then he's not mature enough for you.

Welcome to the thread, Frumpus...

I do agree that the whole "body issue" has become beyond ridiculous. I have had serious problems with food & eating since I was fourteen, and seriously low self esteem since I was twelve. Now I'm seventeen and although some things have gotten better, a lot has gotten worse. "I believe beauty magazines promote low self esteem..."

***
I'm still a fool, I haven't let go of him... I was only fifteen but damnit, those feelings still have died - or even lessened... They just hibernate, then come out to destroy everything. In all honesty, I still love him.

papadoc

8th May 2002, 21:42

Originally posted by spunkbubble
Papadoc!!! *cuddles* How's everything being going for you? It's been ages! :( Did you end up getting MSN??
Doing great.
Fighting windmills, chasing dragons, and dodging tornados.
(Isn't symbolism fun)
No on MSN...not yet.
Can't explain that one...:confused:
Originally posted by spunkbubble
I'm still a fool, I haven't let go of him... I was only fifteen but damnit, those feelings still have died - or even lessened... They just hibernate, then come out to destroy everything. In all honesty, I still love him.
Looks like you've found something,
you'll have to learn how to live with.
I've got demons and devils in my life too.
I've learned that they'll always be there.
I just found a way to live with them,
and not let them control me.

It's a battle sometimes...their voices are loud and clear at times.
Sitting on my shoulder whispering in my ear, they say...
"Follow me...be sad, be lonesome, be poor, be down,
be ugly, be without...
Follow me into despair.
It's ok...you'll be alright."

Then I look in the mirror...and see how stupid I look,
with my head down, and a frown on my face.
"Be gone" I say.
"I'm more than that"
"I'm better than that"
"I am somebody"
"I am important"
"I have a life"
"I have freinds"
"I have no need for your lies"

And I'm on my way to tomorrow...

atlantisjoe

9th May 2002, 06:07

Wow. I just read this whole forum. I feel like there are bees living in my head (or maybe like I'm lost in a Tibetan Eye Exercise). Lots of good thinking here. After 25 years of marriage I've come to the conclusion that the basic difference between men and women is that men marry women thinking they'll never change, and they do. Women marry men thinking that they'll change, and they don't. Most of you guys are still doing the "mating dance" and as uncomfortable as it can be at times, enjoy it, it will be the source of many fond memories later in life. As far as figuring out what makes each other tick, best of luck. The hardest part of relationships is getting the other person to appreciate the things in you that you know are worthy of appreciation. A person much smarter than I once said, "Before one can say 'I love you', one must first know how to say the 'I'.

webdavis

9th May 2002, 15:55

I've read the forum, too. However, life experience is the best teacher, albeit the least forgiving. If I were 18 again, I would duke out my body, dress nice, be nice to the women, relatives and my boss, and a mild asshole to everyone else. It's the only thing that works consistently.:cool:

But now that I am divorced and paying half of my net income to child support, I don't have time to "play." There's another side to women you don't want to visit, gentlemen... greedy, selfish, cold as ice... and no, men can't get that way to the extreme that women can.:mad:

Make money, stay out of debt, stay healthy, and fuck protected. Then watch out for some nice girl who "says" she wants to tame you and take you home for good. Leave that one on the curb!:igor:

Unsolicited advice from a veteran of love and loss... Now then, I'm late for work... another check is due to my ex for her new Suburban.

fwgx

9th May 2002, 17:27

I knoew this thread still lived. Good to see you still here Papadoc and spunk :). yes it was romantic Bilbo.

Also I reccomend reading some of this thread listening to Soot and Stars by the Smashing Pumpkins very emotional.

spunkbubble

10th May 2002, 02:38

Originally posted by webdavis
But now that I am divorced and paying half of my net income to child support, I don't have time to "play." There's another side to women you don't want to visit, gentlemen... greedy, selfish, cold as ice... and no, men can't get that way to the extreme that women can.:mad:

Make money, stay out of debt, stay healthy, and fuck protected. Then watch out for some nice girl who "says" she wants to tame you and take you home for good. Leave that one on the curb!:igor:

Unsolicited advice from a veteran of love and loss... Now then, I'm late for work... another check is due to my ex for her new Suburban.

So you had a bad experience. Yeah, OK, I'm not belittling how traumatic it was, but if you're going to have the attitude, "leave her on the curb", who knows what you're going to miss out on?

that's what i've learnt at seventeen...

webdavis

10th May 2002, 14:13

>>"leave her on the curb", who knows what you're going to miss out on?>>

LOL!

As stated, life experience is the best teacher. Enjoy life without heeding warnings...

TWiSTeD SHaZaM

12th May 2002, 11:57

good god I just read through 20+ pages of posts (when this thread was loading I was looking through the picture thread) it is now4:30 in the morning my chris rock cd has been on repeat and I have heard it 4 times I'm doo for bed since I gotta open at 10 but I just wanted to say a few things on the people and thought this thread made me think of

1. papadoc you are 1 crazycool man you throw out some cool sage like advice then straight disappear its great.

2. bilbo just throws out 1 liners that make you laugh make you cry and make you wonder what the hell he was smokin today

3. missy your posts are on damn near every thread you seem like a cool lady always there with a kind word for someone whenever it is needed mad respect for that

4. dj roach and john both seem like pretty cool guys that have hearts thats cool and I can relate

5. phily are you really from philly I used to live there it was sick tell me about whats happanin there but I had to come home to the west coast missed the sunshine and beaches here

6. dear god spunkbubble I feel your pain so much when me and my girlfriend of 2 years broke up I seriously didn't leave my room for a week and went through 5 BIG bottles of smirnoff ( by far the lowest point in my life. keep your head up it's like 1 guy said earlier it's a roller coaster it gets better then worse and better again

and now my humble request to all ya'll my newest girlfriend and I are goin through some shit and I was gonna get some random opinions :weird: I met this girl through my friend Paul she lived in alaska she was visiting for a week with him she moved into my place 3 days after we met. snd had a great relationship for 6 months in febuary she got pregnant (not unplanned) then in march she bonced out to idaho to see her biological parents stayed there for a month then went back to alaska with her foster parents and is still there what should I do. I used to call her every day and when she stopped calling I took sometime for introspection(not sure if I spelled that right english isn't my favorite subject I like math hehe) I decided I want to be wherever my child is when he/she is born and I hope that she would come down here I just got a job offer from my dad to work for his insurance company with the chance to take over for him when he retires( I'm a business major) I also got a new to me 97 saturn which I have tricked out(I get made fun of all the time for tricking out a saturn but I'll take any rice rocket off the line) I stopped drinking now for her I stopped slingin' and doindrugs the 2nd day we were goin out I stopped hangin out with anything that in my opinion threatened a good life for a family and yet she still hasn't come homemy friends all tell me I'm bein used even paul who was her only friend down here but she tells me she just needs time to get her head straight, isn't 2 and a half months enough time for me to sit around I want her home I've written her called her what should I do

In case you couldn't tell my A.D.D. kicks in after meds wear off sorry my thoughts were hoppin about so much I just wanted you all to know me better now that I feel I know you all somewhat

fwgx

12th May 2002, 14:41

Originally posted by TWiSTeD SHaZaM
5. phily are you really from philly I used to live there it was sick tell me about whats happanin there but I had to come home to the west coast missed the sunshine and beaches here

NO!!!!! Sorry everyone says that. If i lived in Philidelphia I don't think I'd be taking a train there and back to Cardiff in a day. :igor:
Originally posted by TWiSTeD SHaZaM

I've written her called her what should I do
Well talk to her and ask her to come back, tell her how you feel and if she doesn't want to come back ever. sod her. Move on. If she still wants to be with you and just needs to spend this time over there then give her a chance maybe it's just one of those things she has to do.

TWiSTeD SHaZaM

13th May 2002, 05:48

did I mention I read threw 20 pages I swear thats the longest thread I have ever been through

PyroTek66

14th May 2002, 20:23

There's a pretty fun one that's 32 pages right now. It's the "ABC game"

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70958

izchan

15th May 2002, 06:30

TWiSTeD SHaZaM ... hi .. :) ... I had stopped posting here but do keep popping in once a while just to catch up on spunks news .. :) .. yet after reading your post ... I just felt that I would tell you this.

Go to ALASKA.

wherever that frozen land might hold that girl ... go to her and look at her properly. See the person that she is and then only can you decide on what you can and want to do.

The girl is pregnant with child. Living in her foster home. Thinking about her future. GOD wouldn't you be confuse?

if you find that she is the person that you want to live forever with .. :| though pain and suffering ... through poverty and hardship .. upon death and more ... you will know what you need to do.

yet all in all .. it is a matter of responsibility ...

with the SPIDERMAN motto ... 'with great power, come great responsibility' ...

2 months plus is more than sufficient for a cool down period ... so get it nailed down. Don't drag.

I sincerely hope that you will find the answer that you seek, and do what is best for all three of you.

may light shine on you always.

spunkbubble

17th May 2002, 12:34

Originally posted by TWiSTeD SHaZaM

6. dear god spunkbubble I feel your pain so much when me and my girlfriend of 2 years broke up I seriously didn't leave my room for a week and went through 5 BIG bottles of smirnoff ( by far the lowest point in my life. keep your head up it's like 1 guy said earlier it's a roller coaster it gets better then worse and better again

Well...I haven't hit the alcohol, it's food I abuse. It's comforting but somewhat disturbing to know that anyone else has been through what I've been experiencing for the last year and a half.

The only advice I have for you is, if you love this girl - then go to her. Never leave yourself to wonder, "If only I had gone..."

spunkbubble

17th May 2002, 12:37

Okay, guys, what the hell do I do?

Firstly he acts very tender and kind and ...Well... Really caring towards me... Even asks me to move in with him at the end of the year...

Now, nothing. He doesn't reply to my messages. What's going on? Is he just playing games again?

BMWboy

17th May 2002, 12:53

how long has he not been doing anything? [EDIT] my keyboard was acting up, wasn't able to correct myself[EDIT]

MrDomino

18th May 2002, 05:55

Initially I just popped into this forum to comment on the clever little monkeys who beat copyright protection with a felt tip pens. But the title of this thread is begging for a post. So without reading the 20 pages I'm behind, I'd like to try wedging my two cents in.

If you want to know the secret to picking up women, it's simple: take a shower, wear a clean shirt, and ask a girl about her life. That's it. You don't have to drive a Ferrari, you don't have to have forty inch pythons, Armani suits, or Montalbanesque accents. Everyone thinks relationships are impossible now because we've all been brainwashed into social retards. Too many movies, too much Cosmopolitain, too many talk shows and frappacinos and diet plans and Kevin Costner movies. Eventually everyone feels so shitty about themselves that the only comfotable mode of communication is behind the sheild of anonymity that is the internet. Sure, women can be impossible to understand, I even question if other women really understand women, but if you just talk to a girl, she tells you everything you need to know. (And ladies we need your help, please be honest with us. Men are stupid, stupid creatures that do not understand subtlttty... let alone how to properly spell it).

Perhaps it's because I'm rambling, more likely it's because I have work tomorrow, but I'll have to hold off the next several parts of my rant until I have sleep.

Spiffed

19th May 2002, 04:19

untill a few days ago, i never would have beleived that MrDomino was actually right, but he would seem to have been, and it would seem that dressing that nice isn't all that important eithier...

5mo ago when i joined this forum i would have agreed in a second that girls where evil, wreckers of life on earth, and just generally the bad side of humanity.actually, my first post was in this thread, on that point But i've come to realize that was just because i was hurt by one person, it seems somehow vaugely wrong to judge roughly half the human race based on my expereinces with a single girl. And really, it would seem they're just as desperate as we are, seriously, i was hanging out at a local bar, drinking to my sorrows (ok, drinking gingerale, but what does it matter?), and i got talking to the girl beside me (about my age), also drinking to her problems, and we got to talking, and then we got to really talking, and then we got to makeing a date to go out next tuesday... it's not really impossible. And trust me, it has nothing to do with being stylish, i was wearing a hawian shirt over a pair of scrubs... and i'm a real shy geeky person.

But none the less, most of us seem to have condemned girls to be evil based on but a few experiences, yeah, life does suck sometimes, yeah, sometimes lifes unfair, hell, most of the time life's unfair, and no, love isn't just... but untill someone can find a better reality, i'll take my chances, and keep my eyes open.

And if you really have had your life destroyed by some girl, then look at it and say "well, it can't get worse"... don't go into a relationship expecting to get hurt but hoping it'll work out, as great a strategy as that may be for dealing with not being hurt when it's over, thats exactly what it is, a strategy for when it's over, go into it hoping for the world, and expecting noless...

The world is a big place, much of it won't work, but if even a portion of it does work, then it's all good, you can't regect the entire concept of girls and love on the basis of a single experience, it's all broken when you meet that one perfect person, much the same way gravity is broken the moment you drop something and it falls up. There really are lots of fish in the sea, as bad as it sounds, its true.

But being hurt is good, it'd be a worying concept if anyone really did just brush themselves off and get back in there after ending a meaningful relationship, feeling hurt is away to deal with all the leftover pain... but eventually it's time to stop feeling bad and get back up, if you lay in the dirt for too long your tears will turn it to mud, makeing for even worse problems.

So yesterday i got back up, after laying in the ground for 5mo, and i see that the world really isn't as bad as i remembered it.

Avalon

20th May 2002, 04:50

Spiffed... i have one thing to say... YOU'RE RIGHT!

(Yes I'm new to the boards people :p, hiya by the way!)

But you know what, so is everyone else. Girls aren't the downfall of society, the source of the problem are all of the jerks who think that women are just there for sex, more sex, and erm... sex. Those who mistreat women, beat them, and just use them are the source of the problems. Yeah, they look cute, yeah they seem nice for the first three weeks, but you know what girls (usually when they are younger, and even in their older years) are more worried over looks than personality half the time. It takes time for them to learn, but it is the fact that they don't realize that the jerks are only there for a one minute thing that causes pain and suffering for them. They fall in love with the cotton candy, and think that everything else is just that sweet.
I went to an all boys high school (so yeah, I wasn't getting any "action" anyway), and turned the drinking age not to long ago. But through out my life, I have dated more women older than me (usually in the mid to late twenties) because I was mature enough to understand that there's more to women than just the want for sex, etc. And they were old enough to have gone through the jerk offs to actually realize that they were not what they were looking for. It's not a solution (I'm not advocating that every guy should go out and begin hunting for a 30 year old... the other problem with dating someone older is that they think that you're too young.)
In actuality, no one is going to change how most young women think and how the jerk off men act. I've figured it's all about something that I heard in the movie Driven (which was a pretty good movie). It's not about whether you fall down, it's all about how fast you get up. That's how the gentlemen, and good guys have to deal with women. There may be a great girl who you like, but falls for the jerks, you know what, leave her and move on (yeah I know it's hard, TRUST ME). You just have to find another, because if the first one that you wanted was really the one, she would have noticed you or given you the time of day that you wanted.

ps. Titus said it best (the fox five show): "Son, you don't go straight for the 10, you find a 6 and drink until she is an 8".

Spiffed

20th May 2002, 06:08

Originally posted by Avalon
Spiffed... i have one thing to say... YOU'RE RIGHT!
Sorry, i'll try to rectify the situation imediatley, i hate it when that happens.
(Yes I'm new to the boards people :p, hiya by the way!)Welcome to the boards Avalon, i'm going to call on the band to officially play you in (mostly just because i like them)
http://spiffed.dhs.org/newwelcomeband.gif

Girls aren't the downfall of society, the source of the problem are all of the jerks who think that women are just there for sex, more sex, and erm... sex...
bang on, men are the cause of women being the downfall of society

...but you know what girls (usually when they are younger, and even in their older years) are more worried over looks than personality half the time...
Worried over their own looks or the looks of their perspective date?
If you mean their own looks then isn't this yet again, somewhat the fault of the jerks of the world? Isn't that who they're worried about how they look to? (assuming they aren't thinking of them as jerks at the time)

It takes time for them to learn, but it is the fact that they don't realize that the jerks are only there for a one minute thing that causes pain and suffering for them.
Isn't that exactly the same problem that damn near everyone who's contributed to this thread is having? They've been hurt by one of the "jerks" (male or female) of the world and they came here to come and think it out, or just bitch at the world? Feeling hurt and afraid seems to be the #1 cause of people not asking someone out, the fear of being hurt imediatley by rejecrtion, or 10yrs down the road, being hurt after they've given their everything and receive nothing back.

...because I was mature enough to understand that there's more to women than just the want for sex...
Based on the results of various statistical ventures here (damnit, the polls been archived, ahwell), we've managed to determine that the vast majority of us are geeks anyway, we're far from the sort who're indanger of being picked up "for just sex". Even so, i hardly think that we needed to be reminded that sex isn't the only thing on the female mind (someone chime in if they thought different).

...It's not about whether you fall down, it's all about how fast you get up...
Words to live by those are, but the real trick is to not fall down, but really, you'd have never got this far into this thread if you hadn't fallen down.

Either way, now that i've managed to completely detroy any credibility i may have once had with you, welcome to the forums.

spunkbubble

20th May 2002, 09:52

He is so cruel...

MrDomino

21st May 2002, 06:35

Look, there's one thing that you have to understand walking in to love. Love is pain. There is no way around it. If you put your emotions, your soul, up on the chopping block, regardless of how you try to protect it someone will eventually take a swing at it. But, and this is the important part, that is what makes love what it is. If it was simple, easy to understand, easy to preform, it would be worthless. The pain, the effort that we have to go through to finally make love work is what makes it so special. In the end we all want the same thing, happiness. Oldschool good times. There's no road map to life, no guides or gas stations to find directions. We all have to make our own way. Some take the high road, some take the low road. It's not my business to judge how another man/woman lives his/her life, they're as lost in this sea as I am.

Terminal

21st May 2002, 07:06

To those that say I really wish I could find the "Hot chicks", I think you'll be shocked and surprised at what is really good for you in the long run. The good looking girls are not a bad thing, however your desire to hold that trophy to show the world what you have scored is not a good thing. Sometimes that girl you ignore because she doesn't fit your "Hot Chick" profile is the very best thing in the world for you. Many of us have to find things out the hard way, others never learn.

Don't waste too much time looking for what you really deep down know is not right for you.

Did I marry a "Hot Chick", she sure the hell is hot in my book. Smart is sexy.

Stupid people shouldn't breed, sad part is they do so more then most.

Term

Avalon

21st May 2002, 07:08

Originally posted by Spiffed

Words to live by those are, but the real trick is to not fall down, but really, you'd have never got this far into this thread if you hadn't fallen down.

Either way, now that i've managed to completely detroy any credibility i may have once had with you, welcome to the forums.

I feel soo, sonned... this is a new experience for me... not wait, like the most of you I too have been hurt, pained, and rejected by women... no wait, there was the time... we won't go there.

ps. thanks for the welcome :-)

Spiffed

21st May 2002, 14:50

I must say, you two (terminal & Avalon) sure managed to beat the whole "i'm new here" thread, but welome to both of you... this means i get to call in the band twice in the same thread, my, won't they be tired.. so tired they had to change bass drums actually.http://spiffed.dhs.org/welcomeband.gif

I've never dated the "hot" girls, or the "cute" girls by popular definition, but she was sure as hell all those things to me. Hot and cute are deffinitley subjective terms and it's a shame that as a society we've developped a common veiw of what they mean. But this said, not all the hot girls of the world are stupid, some people really do have it all. Not all the "good looking" people on the planet are out f**ing everynight, it's just a stereotype. The world really needs to be experienced first hand, you can't assume anythings true untill you've done it. But i can say this, theres alot to be said for the unhot, uncute girls of society, if for nothing else then just because love really is blind.

MrDomino

23rd May 2002, 18:59

Guys, I don't know if you noticed, but there are amazingly beautiful women all around us, it's not like there's a shortage. All you have to do is say something to get a conversation started. How many of you can't say that you've seen an incredible woman walking down the street with a guy that you would consider, ah, less than handsome. Why do you think that is? And before I hear any big johnson remarks, I guarantee it's because that guy knows how to talk to a woman, make her laugh, and make her feel special.

And spunkbubble, without knowing anything about your situation, I say drop the guy. If whatever he has done makes you hurt that bad, then honey, he's not good enough for you. You don't deserve to be hurt over and over again. Break the cycle, move on, and be happy.

GEMINI DREAMS

24th May 2002, 06:12

This is the funniest post i've seen in a while ;)... Why are you gonna try to be something other than who you are, wouldnt that just make things way more confuseing!?! ,possibley ,yes ;) ... your trying to act out this personality that isnt yours ,isnt going to make the results or your descisions easier or make your ''anything ''last, a lie can only go on for so long... but anywayz , just do your own thing , hang with the right people (that have yur intrests) be confident and be occupied , normally when your not looking for something it finds you ...the more people i meet , the more ive learned how many different personalities and lifestyles can be .. in small terms theres someone for everyone ...and for the post about girls bieng the downfall.. no .. no .. no ... the person who posted that post is the human races downfall :blah:

Spiffed

24th May 2002, 11:59

well, welcome to the boards Gemini....

and on the note of your post, the best thing you could ever do, is to be yourself. I think someone said it hear already, but don't use a lie to pick up girls, because you never know, she might like you, and then your stuck lieing forever about it. And trust me, she'll be hurt when she finds out you were lieing to her.

And as far as the general myth around here that girls really aren't looking to date you, this isn't exactly true, although they may not have you in mind without ever meeting you, do you really think every female on earth wishes to end up alone and relationshipless? and trust me, their not ALL lesbians.

Anyhow, i found a nice quote i like from a song the other day, "I don't want to change the world, I'm not looking for New England, i'm just looking for another girl" (Billy Bragg - A New England). And it's true, it's not rocket science, it's just about being you, eventually, you'll find someone.

fwgx

15th July 2002, 16:34

It's been a while now since anyone posted here so I thought I'd just let you know what's happening. All is going well with me and Sian, I've got a job which means moving further away from her for a year :(, we've started writing to each other a bit which is nice because we couldn't talk much. I've just bought a train ticket to go see her in a week on my B-day only £23! I was amazed it was so cheap, I've paid more for a train there which was a shorter journey. I can't wait to see her again, we'll have such a laugh. I'll make her buy me lunch as a pressie, hehe :D.

So is everyone one else still going ok in their love lives? I haven't seen spunkbubble around here in way too long :cry:

izchan

16th July 2002, 02:32

Hello people, It has been a while since I visited here again.

Apparently, the thread is still going strong with new blood coming and contributing.

Frankly, I have nothing more to add to what I have already said before. My opinion about life is more or less the same, if not more crsytalized than before.

The "downfall" as it is called, is mostly cost by communication breakdown. Now the difference is that if the communication broke down before marriage, all you get is the hangover the next day after 2 bottels of jack daniels. Where if the communication broke after marriege, that means your paycheck goes half to your spouse instead of all of it going to it (when you are married, you don't get to keep anything .. :) ... )

I like the atlantisjoe's words "before you say I love you, you must say I" ... thats why nowadys I don't say "I love you", just "Love you".

It has come to my attention that people have a misguided vision of relationships. Most people think that relationships are only contained in those that is in "LOVE" ... the truth is that relationships happends the minute we were born. From those that we have with our mothers, to those that we share with our friends. We even have a somewhat weak relationship with the strangers we see on the commuter we use everyday.

Relationships are the bond we have between people and it should be seen as that perspective. Once we can see it for what it is, we can then address it properly. A person that is bad in relationship handling can never be happy. When I use the word handling, I do not mean mangement or any action to deceive, the handling I mean here is the reaction in which we do or the choices in which we make inside these relationships.

Some people are said to be great friends but lousy lovers. The truth is that if you are good friends, you should be great lovers, why? because they are the same. Good lovers are those that understand the needs of others more than their own. That is the defination of love. To give and not think of taking. Unless in your relationship as friends, you are contstantly manipulating people to do things for you, else, you should excell in your other relationships. You see the way we handle one relationship is the same way we handle the others, we dont change from one person to another just by being with different people. Only our portrayal of ourselve change. We are still ourselves, and the decision we make are still based on the same experience and knowledge that we have in us.

so don't kid ourselve in thinking that we are good in one relationship and bad in another because the situation is different. If the relationship fails, that means we are responsible for it as much as the other party.

I hope I did not bore anyone with my posts again ... :)

enjoy and remember yoda's words ...

"Do or do not, there is no try"

may light shine on you all always.

bengalTiger

16th July 2002, 07:02

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA,

tis za bengalTigah from the sunderbans (http://www.westbengaltourism.com/wildlife/sunderbans/)

well people, girls from day one have been a downfall for men. Ever since Eve fooled our good man Adam to eat the inedible you men have been suffering in this world for "survival of the sperm-owners"

As for me I am trying my best to eat you all off as much as i can in this lonely jungle. But, one time i remember this poor fella who was touring the jungle, before i ate him up he talked about his girlfriend, how he loved her dearly and would die for her. And guess what? I told him that a while ago i ate his girlfriend. So I told him if u let me eat u you ca meet her in heaven :D

and so my belly was taken care of. another day that poor fellas girlfrend came lookin' for him and i told her that i ate him. She was like crying her heart out. I told her if u let me eat u u can meet him in heaven. to this the girl said no! I don't want to die. I'd rather live and continue enjoying life in this world.

Saint Peter up from heaven was overlooking this whole incident with me and the girl, and he summoned the poor fella to witness the reality of his love. the poor fella could not take it anymore and he jumped from the heavens onto earth! oh what a sight ! he fell flat with a splat right in front of her.

I sighed :confused: confused. How dumb does men have to be?

Well i just walked off to my lair and turned my Winamp 2.8 on and tuned in to "The Vagina Song" by Bloodhound gang...

Internet sure is expensive in this wild Jungle. But I'll keep in touch. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

spunkbubble

3rd August 2002, 12:02

Originally posted by Phily Baby
I haven't seen spunkbubble around here in way too long :cry:

*waves*...

Yeah, it's been a long while...

I've got no real excuse for not checking in as often as I used to, but much like everyone else, I guess other stuff just got in the way, my final year of school, e.t.c, e.t.c...

I was actually just feeling really shit tonight and was reminded of this thread. (What a compliment to you guys!!) But you know what I mean, I'm sure.

I did have the end of my year (and therefore school career) planned out, I was going to Sydney, I was going to attempt to make something of our torn up old relationship, sort it out for good. Now I've just... I don't know, fallen apart completely in regards to all of that.

Am I wrong? Somebody tell me, if a guy says...this...

"maybe you shold try and be seduced by other people, it's a big ocean"

what does it mean? Does it mean what I think it means?

Grr, I shouldn't still be in this same goddamn boat.

Hope it's going okay for the rest of you. Happy for you and Sian, Phily Baby!

liquidmotion

4th August 2002, 07:33

Girls: An Analysis
By Daniel Green
Published 08.04.02 2002 @ 01:22:03 AM

All girls think they can sing. Whenever two or more girls come togehter they will start singing any song they have seen on MTV the night before. This annoyance leads me into the next section.

All girls are extremely jealous (although they will tell you differently) of anyone who looks better, sings better, gets better men, whatever. A comment lament may be heard after a Pepsi commercial featuring pop princess Britney Spears, "She's so slutty" or "What a stupid commercial". They say this because of the aforementioned innate jealousy.

All girls are inherently homosexual (although most hide it well enough, with very few actually being openly lesbian). The main proof of this I have dubbed the "girlfriend sleepover". During such an event, many girls will sit around in their pajamas and do each others' hair, do each others' makeup, and wax each others' legs. But the most infamous event taking place at the girlfriend sleepover is the tickle-fight (think Animal House panty raid). Each girl strips down to her underwear, grabs another girl, and then proceeds to tickle her victim to death. The end result, as you may expect, is a bunch of sweaty girls laying around in their underwear, panting heavily.

All good-looking girls can get any man to do anything they want. Men will bend over backwards for a "hottie", hoping that by doing such a girl a favor he will get in her good graces and thus have a chance with her.

All girls are pure evil. Every member of the female gender residing on this planet will lie, cheat, and steal (see TOOL, Undertow, Disgustipated), not to mention manipulate men, to get what they want. This works every time for the reason mentioned in the preceding section.

All good-looking girls will be nice to a man only when there is no other choice and it suits their interests. This usually occurs in the workplace when the female must be nice to a male in order to avoid making the workplace uncomfortable for herelf. So, basically she is only nice to you in order to make herself less unhappy.

All girls believe themselves to know everything. This shows whenever a girl puts her two cents in on any topic, which a girl will do frequently. There is no convincing the girl she is wrong; she will fight to the bitter end.

All girls, at one time or another, fit into the category Dumb Bitch. During this time, the girl can become exceedingly irritating, especially when confrontine a man with their aforementioned know-it-all-ism.

Why does anyone put up this bullshit? PROCREATION!

Dan "hasn't had a girlfriend in over a year" Green

spunkbubble

4th August 2002, 10:55

Originally posted by liquidmotion
Girls: An Analysis
By Daniel Green
Published 08.04.02 2002 @ 01:22:03 AM

All girls think they can sing. Whenever two or more girls come togehter they will start singing any song they have seen on MTV the night before. This annoyance leads me into the next section.

All girls are extremely jealous (although they will tell you differently) of anyone who looks better, sings better, gets better men, whatever. A comment lament may be heard after a Pepsi commercial featuring pop princess Britney Spears, "She's so slutty" or "What a stupid commercial". They say this because of the aforementioned innate jealousy.

All girls are inherently homosexual (although most hide it well enough, with very few actually being openly lesbian). The main proof of this I have dubbed the "girlfriend sleepover". During such an event, many girls will sit around in their pajamas and do each others' hair, do each others' makeup, and wax each others' legs. But the most infamous event taking place at the girlfriend sleepover is the tickle-fight (think Animal House panty raid). Each girl strips down to her underwear, grabs another girl, and then proceeds to tickle her victim to death. The end result, as you may expect, is a bunch of sweaty girls laying around in their underwear, panting heavily.

All good-looking girls can get any man to do anything they want. Men will bend over backwards for a "hottie", hoping that by doing such a girl a favor he will get in her good graces and thus have a chance with her.

All girls are pure evil. Every member of the female gender residing on this planet will lie, cheat, and steal (see TOOL, Undertow, Disgustipated), not to mention manipulate men, to get what they want. This works every time for the reason mentioned in the preceding section.

All good-looking girls will be nice to a man only when there is no other choice and it suits their interests. This usually occurs in the workplace when the female must be nice to a male in order to avoid making the workplace uncomfortable for herelf. So, basically she is only nice to you in order to make herself less unhappy.

All girls believe themselves to know everything. This shows whenever a girl puts her two cents in on any topic, which a girl will do frequently. There is no convincing the girl she is wrong; she will fight to the bitter end.

All girls, at one time or another, fit into the category Dumb Bitch. During this time, the girl can become exceedingly irritating, especially when confrontine a man with their aforementioned know-it-all-ism.

Why does anyone put up this bullshit? PROCREATION!

Dan "hasn't had a girlfriend in over a year" Green

And here's MY analysis of that...

"Whenever two or more girls come togehter they will start singing any song they have seen on MTV the night before." --- I have never, EVER done this. The only situation that comes close to this is talking to a friend (female OR male), and one says, "Ohh, do you remember that song???" And then try and remember the words by singing/saying lines. Half the time it's comedy songs like stuff from The Simpson's - so nobody is attempting to sing well, we're just stuffing around. And usually, this is with a member of the opposite sex.

"All girls are extremely jealous (although they will tell you differently) of anyone who looks better, sings better, gets better men, whatever. A comment lament may be heard after a Pepsi commercial featuring pop princess Britney Spears, "She's so slutty" or "What a stupid commercial"." --- I confess to being quite a jealous person at times. When I say jealous, I mean, if a boyfriend is close friends with a girl, I'll feel twinges of jealousy. That kind of a situation. With Britney Spears, yeah, I do say she's a slut and pretty bloody stupid, because she is. There's no way in hell I'd want to look or be anything like her, and I am fully aware I could be considered as "sexy" as her if I spent several hours in hair and make-up before appearing publically. So yeah, that bit's a half-truth, I can be pretty bloody jealous, but not of brainless, irritating people like her. Don't you guys find her annoying, too? I think I'd kill myself if I was that fake. :down:

"All girls are inherently homosexual (although most hide it well enough, with very few actually being openly lesbian). The main proof of this I have dubbed the "girlfriend sleepover". During such an event, many girls will sit around in their pajamas and do each others' hair, do each others' makeup, and wax each others' legs. But the most infamous event taking place at the girlfriend sleepover is the tickle-fight (think Animal House panty raid). Each girl strips down to her underwear, grabs another girl, and then proceeds to tickle her victim to death. The end result, as you may expect, is a bunch of sweaty girls laying around in their underwear, panting heavily." --- Holy SHIT, that kind of thing has never happened at a girly sleepover I've been to. The closest thing to any of that is putting clips in each others hair, and once I had my hair curled at a sleepover. Oh, and once one of my friends did my make-up because we were going out and I'm pretty hopeless with make-up. Never have I waxed another girl's legs or had mine waxed by anyone else. And "tickle-fight"? wtf? Nothing even close to that has happened. Sure, I'd snog a few select female celebrities, I'm not afraid to admit that, but none of that tickle-fight shit has ever happened at any sleepover I've ever attended.

"All good-looking girls can get any man to do anything they want. Men will bend over backwards for a "hottie", hoping that by doing such a girl a favor he will get in her good graces and thus have a chance with her." --- Don't ask me, ask a good-looking chick. Although admittedly I have a history of getting what I want out of males if I want if badly enough. ;)

"All girls are pure evil. Every member of the female gender residing on this planet will lie, cheat, and steal (see TOOL, Undertow, Disgustipated), not to mention manipulate men, to get what they want. This works every time for the reason mentioned in the preceding section." --- Not about anything serious. I wouldn't ever cheat on someone, and there's only one time I've ever told a serious lie to a guy, and I cracked after not very long and confessed. Never stolen, either.

"All good-looking girls will be nice to a man only when there is no other choice and it suits their interests. This usually occurs in the workplace when the female must be nice to a male in order to avoid making the workplace uncomfortable for herelf. So, basically she is only nice to you in order to make herself less unhappy." --- Ask a good-looking chick. If you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. If you're a bastard to me, I'm a bitch to you, or I just avoid you altogether.

"All girls believe themselves to know everything. This shows whenever a girl puts her two cents in on any topic, which a girl will do frequently. There is no convincing the girl she is wrong; she will fight to the bitter end." --- Well, I love discussing controversial topics at length and exploring new ideas, I am obsessed with philosophy, so I guess this isn't really true for me, either. I love having other opinions explained, and often find myself adjusting my own opinions. But I think everyone is guilty of thinking their opinions are more correct than anyone elses!

"All girls, at one time or another, fit into the category Dumb Bitch. During this time, the girl can become exceedingly irritating, especially when confrontine a man with their aforementioned know-it-all-ism." --- All guys, at one time or another, fit into the category Dumb Bastard. During this time, the guy can become exceedingly irritating, especially when confronting a woman ... You get the idea :p /

izchan

5th August 2002, 04:07

It has been way too long since we had a decent discussion on this thread. I solute liquid motion and Spunk for their undenible wisdom in analysis on specific subject matter.

As for the actual case itself. Well, i think I will most probably replace the word 'female' in liquid motion mail to 'beutiful people', which will include both male and female (excluding the female fraternity thing with waxes ... ouch!!!).

The fact is that, nice looking people are brought up in a different world from ours. They don't go through the same emotional high-lows like normal looking chaps. for example, there is no way in hell, could a normal looking girl get away for saying dumb things. Why? Because the listening party would never allow that person to speak in the first place. All nice looking people like to hear their own voice, regardless of the topic/content being said. That will include singing as well.

One of the major reasons the chat sites/forums are so popular would be due to the lack of physical complications like 'how a person looks' or 'what their voice would sound like' ... in these 'quite and discreet' places ... only the true self is shown (or hidden, depending on the person's grammer skills) ... where a person's knowledge and feelings are expressed properly without complexifying the issue into a matter of who looks better, rather then who is more accurate (mind you, I never say right, only more accurate to the situation required) ...

As for britney, well ... it is not like I am going to marry her, she is an entertainer ... so let her do her job and entertain ... if her boobs are the centre of attention, then why not? ... entertainments are meant to cheer a person up, if you don't like it, change the channel ... no point, be littleling these entertainers ... it is just a job. No one thing can please everybody ... as a matter of fact, not even GOD (and HE is suppose to be the best we all have seen).

By nature, human beings like to compete, from little things like who gets through the door first to who is the president of the world. But these kind of competitions does not serve us well, as it only creates distrust and fear. Through competitions are those that encourages growth and happiness. Where people are given hope for a better self and a better life. Not just because of losing but rather to know that there are places where we can improve so that the quality of life becomes better.

where we are honest to ourselves and our thoughts, it will be easier for us to see the real reason for every actions and decisions. And based on that fact, we will then be able to improve our weakness, and enhance our strength. No one is perfect. We can only strive to become better day by day.

You see the strangest things in life, is that good things attracts good things, and Bad things attract Bad things. It is a fundamental law. But it is not what you think it is means literally.

A positive person will never see a negative thing, even when everyone else see's it as negative. In a positive person's perspective, everything is positive, or works towards being positive. One old saying that 'Good people always see the best in others' ... and that is what reality is. If you see the world as grey and colourless, then the world will become what you make of it. It is a matter of perception, or what Stephen R. Covey (authour of The 7 habits of highly effective People) will say, it is the lens in which you see the world that makes the world what it is.

It takes time for a person to come to terms with their innerself. And only then can a person trully free themselves from the clutches of menial tasks. Only then can every word and action be filled with life and passion.

spunk, before you asks someone to love you, you must first know who you are. If not, you will not know, what you are giving to others. Trying to patch things up with your other half, is not going to change a single thing, because all you are doing is asking the other to change so that they can stay with you. In truth, we have to be true to ourselves before we can asks others to come to us. And mind you it is ASKS ... it is their decision and their life. If this person does not work, then move on, there will be others that can see you as who you are without needing you to ask them to change or accept you. That is the whole point of finding a partner .. as the world implies, a person that will stand by you because they believe in who and what you represent. But most of all, they are they because they love you for you and no other reasons. I am not asking you to not reflect upon yourself, rather that was the first thing that I asks you to do, you must get to know yourself. when you start to understand, then asks yourself, 'what things in my life can I improve so that the quality of my life will improve as well' ... and work on that.

And what is the 'quality of life' ... that differs from person to person ... my view of 'quality' is the amount of contribution that I can give to other peoples life. How much more can I become better, so that other people can benefit from my growth. Growth here meaing both physical, mental as well as spiritual. It is the triangle that keeps a human being whole. An imbalance in any one of them, will only cause the person to fall from grace, and go towards the 'DarkSide' (as most starwar fans will understand).

well .. I think I have said enough for now ... if you guys want to carry on the discussion, I will be happy to obliege.

Enjoy.

Aquila Blue

15th August 2002, 23:46

/me introduces herself to the thread. Hello all. I have to admit, I didn't read all 20 pages, but I thought I'd comment on the opening arguement anyway.

I have to say that not all women go for a "bad boys". Often they do, but I think after awhile, females figure out that they are not a reform school. Once that's been realized, then usually that's better. However some women never seem to figure this out.

I think what a woman is looking for in a partner (this just happens to be what I use to look for, but have now found :)) is someone that she can be herself around. Someone who shares common interests, but is different enough to keep things interesting. Someone who will appreciate and truly love her for what she is. Of course, communication is key!

I know some women are gold-diggers and whatnot and frankly, that sort of behaviour disgusts me. Unfortunately there are still people in the world who put on airs and pretend in hopes of gaining the most "status" and money. That would just never make me happy, and I guess for some people money is happiness.

Neko

16th August 2002, 04:41

Originally posted by Aquila Blue
I think what a woman is looking for in a partner (this just happens to be what I use to look for, but have now found :)) is someone that she can be herself around. Someone who shares common interests, but is different enough to keep things interesting. Someone who will appreciate and truly love her for what she is.

/me takes a bow and snuggles aquila

manthabeats

16th August 2002, 04:51

Lets see, Im 18 and I have tried my whole miserable :cry: life to get a girl. Saddly (or just plain weird :weird: ) the last girlfriend I had was in junior high (egads has it been that long). It seems that the majority of highschool women are all stuck on themselves. Either that or they only will go for the jocks :hang: (I like to call them Fungals, Hee Hee) which only a small precent of them actually have brains. Now I'm not a nerd, and I did ask a few girls to prom and I still turned up with nothing. What the hell is wrong with all of you girls, do I have to play sports for you to be my friend, do I have to look the way you want? I mean for Christs sake, Im smart, Im not a bad guy (unless some other idiot pisses me off) I like doing a lot of different things. I dont know if popularity has anything to do with this issue but I'm sure it fits nicely in there somewhere. Hell, I have a good personality and I like to film movies...What else could be wrong with me? :(

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/movies/

Aquila Blue

16th August 2002, 12:15

Originally posted by manthabeats
Lets see, Im 18 and I have tried my whole miserable :cry: life to get a girl.
What else could be wrong with me? :(

Number One, there is nothing wrong with you I bet. You are still quite young and sometimes people just don't find love until a little later in life. I know it sounds cliche, but sometimes if you stop looking, you'll find love when you least expect it :)

/me snuggles Neko back

Neko

16th August 2002, 13:44

so true :), i found it when i least expected to :D, and we have been together since :), (i was just hitting 20 at the time), and i still beleive that the relationship im in now has been the only meaningful one ive ever had, so dont worry about "getting there late", as long as your not an asshole who treats girls like shit, you'll get one eventually :)

fwgx

16th August 2002, 14:27

I got a quick 'we need to talk tonight' phone call this morning from Sian. sounds worrying :(.

great to see you back bubble, and welcome to the member of this thread :)

manthabeats

17th August 2002, 04:27

I have decided to push women aside and wait until college starts next year to worry again. No I would never be an asshole to a girl, its not in my nature. An exception to this would be if we were married and she decided to cheat, then I would change. It seems like a lot of highschool girls(and guys) aren't really mature enough to know whats really going on. They are influenced by stuff on tv and movies etc. I understand love a little, but for right now I have more important things to worry about. Once I settle down, then I can return to finding someone.

jns

17th August 2002, 16:30

I almost think I've found myself a soon-to-be gf.

Neko

17th August 2002, 17:00

Originally posted by manthabeats
I have decided to push women aside and wait until college starts next year to worry again. No I would never be an asshole to a girl, its not in my nature. An exception to this would be if we were married and she decided to cheat, then I would change. It seems like a lot of highschool girls(and guys) aren't really mature enough to know whats really going on. They are influenced by stuff on tv and movies etc. I understand love a little, but for right now I have more important things to worry about. Once I settle down, then I can return to finding someone.

yeah,. 60% of popular songs containing some form, or suggestion of cheating on your "woman", "man", doesnt help either, it seems lkike the industry is telling people that its cool to be a player
personally, players make me sick.

Delicates

17th August 2002, 19:16

When I was 14, I hoped that one day I would have a girlfriend.
When I was 16 I got a girlfriend, but there was no passion. So I decided I needed a passionate girl with a zest for life.
When I left school, I dated a passionate girl, but she was too emotional. Everything was an emergency, she was a drama queen, cried all the time and threatened suicide. So I decided I needed a girl with stability.
When I was 25 I found a very stable girl but she was boring. She was totally predictable and never got excited about anything. Life became so dull that I decided I needed a girl with some excitement.
When I was 28 I found an exciting girl, but I couldn't keep up with her. She rushed from one thing to another, never settling on anything. She did mad impetuous things and flirted with everyone she met. She made me miserable as often as happy. She was great fun initially and very energetic, but directionless. So I decided to find a girl with some ambition.
When I turned 31, I found a smart ambitious girl with her feet planted firmly on the ground and married her. She was so ambitious that she divorced me and took everything I owned.
I am now 40 and am looking for a girl with very big tits.

manthabeats

17th August 2002, 21:17

Sounds like a bad dream, but I feel sorry for you man, hope you find the right one someday!

jns

19th August 2002, 09:51

My life is a bad dream?
(Also called 'nightmare'?)

fwgx

19th August 2002, 13:45

Originally posted by jns
I almost think I've found myself a soon-to-be gf. Do Tell.......

Originally posted by Delicates
I am now 40 and am looking for a girl with very big tits.Good call :up:

jns

19th August 2002, 16:17

Originally posted by Phily Baby
Do Tell.......
I will. Later. :p

Aquila Blue

19th August 2002, 17:47

Originally posted by Delicates

I am now 40 and am looking for a girl with very big tits.

:down: bad call, too many back problems

CyberHez

20th August 2002, 17:43

Originally posted by s1138
oh and here is a thought,
a woman will never be president, cause if saddam hussien or someone is pissing her off, and it is that time of the month... well, she could start a world war:D

Actually, my $.02 is this:
(a) She'd never take backsass from Hussein in the first place and would have personally put him in his place before he could get out of hand.
(b) Then, if he started getting antsy again, she'd simply go over there and take the bastard out herself in a very simple, ecological, and economical way - and without having to involve everyone else on the planet. :p

Chicks rule and dudes drool. ;)

Seriously, though...
Good guys rule. The other ladies that I know, myself included, like a man who's basically a good guy but who has "good mysterious" qualities about him, when it's required. That includes, for many of us anyway, a little "bad boy" persona he can slip into occasionally. I mean, c'mon guys, think about it: would you prefer to be hit on by the smart-but-plain librarian or by a dumb-but-gorgeous club dancer? Now, which one would you rather give everything in your house and bank account to for safekeeping? Now, combine them both and you get a woman who can balance a checkbook, never maxes out her (or your) credit cards, and knows how to get your motor running any time she wants. See what I mean? Good girl, "bad" streak. Same thing with guys.

And we go nuts for those wry smiles, too. ;)

manthabeats

21st August 2002, 02:22

Originally posted by CyberHez

And we go nuts for those wry smiles, too. ;)

Hee Hee, I use em all the time, like right now I'd be :confused:

Spiffed

21st August 2002, 02:31

All though it's far from the current thread of the topic i feel it nessasary to apologize for, well, atleast officially disown, anything i've said in this thread... as much as i pretended to (wrongly) i don't (nor have i been given the chance to) understand women (or girls), so anything i've said here (i said alot at some point) is just me talking through my ass... with luck i'll oneday have the channce to experience the horror that all of you all complain about, one day i'll meet someone

sorry,
~spiffed

izchan

21st August 2002, 06:49

My two cents.

Are we still discussing about how 'females' ruin our lives here?

If so, then my only advice to whoever is reading this (me included) is get on with life.

Woman's are never going to change nor is Man any different.

pick the one you like and make sure they have the things you want, everything else you want is an added bonus.

Now the example to my saying above is like this.
Case 1:
If you want a guy who is smart and romantic, then go and get that man. But when you get him, don't you complain how he does not clean after the mess he makes, nor do you complain about his monday footballs. Because a smart man gets someone else to do their things for them, and Romantics are only good with certain occasions not ALL of them. (Read the instructions that come with them, it states clearly their usage and expiry date)

Case 2:
If you want a woman who can balance a checkbook, never maxes out her (or your) credit cards, and knows how to get your motor running any time she wants. Then go and get one, I can tell you from experience they exist, they usually work in high positions in a company. Now if you can get one of these, do not complain when she is trying to manage your life for you, don't complain that you no longer have freedom to think for yourself and DON'T you ever complain that she can't COOK!!! ... because when you asked for her, you already knew all of that. Management is what she does best, and that is what she will do in her life and yours (Management does not get their hands dirty, hense no Cooking included).

That is why when we ask for something, asks for it properly. State everything that you want and accept what you get. It is like the genie thing, you will always get what you asks for, but seldom what you think.

Me. I only asked for a woman that will make me happy, and that I can make them happy the same time. The flaws that come with them are part and parcels of the entire thing. That is why I love her so.

Yes, she will nag. She will throw tantrums. She will also say things she does not mean. And forget to say I love you. But she is also caring when I am sick. She loves me more that words can say. And most of all, she is what I asked for in life. Someone to love me, and for me to love.

No one is perfect, we aren't. so why should be expect our other parts to be too ...

Sit on this, and think.

If you can understand it, you will be able to meet with every aspect of life. For it is a general rule. Love others like you love yourself, and you shall know true love in every soul you touch.

PS:
If you only want to have big tits, then go get a cow.
If you want to have great sex, get one who enjoys it. :)

Lapikas

21st August 2002, 09:35

Originally posted by izchan
Love others like you love yourself, and you shall know true love in every soul you touch.

Oh man! And I have hoped to find someone who would love me, cos' I don't love myself :)

I have seen too many twisted relationships. Still I haven't lost my belief in true love. It comes if it comes. I know life ain't fair and that I may never find anyone. But I won't let it bother my life. I live my life taking what life gives to me (or takes from me). And I'm not unhappy or depressed all the time. There's more in life than love. Friendship is as important too..

Trust is the thing I need. IMO it's the most important thing in human. There's no friendship or relationship without it. So what everybody should learn is to trust and be loyal..

I read this thread yesterday, and maybe I can join in now as I have something to say..

Edit:
oops, almost forgot.. GIRLS ARE NOT THE DOWNFALL OF SOCIETY!!

izchan

21st August 2002, 09:43

Ah ... love ... look at it properly.

Love is not BOY-GIRL love ...

Love is a feeling of fulfillment in life.

To be stated properly, love is the outcome of relationships. ALL RELATIONSHIP.

due to our popular TV series, our common people have shrunk the meaning of love to just the brief or first phase of a 'MARRIEGE' relationship.

please ... wake up and smell the flowers.

Love ... is a very broad spectrum of things.

Now if we want to have a discussion on that, we might need to start a new thread. :)

Lapikas

21st August 2002, 10:01

Yes I know it's not only boy-girl thing. I have a friend who knows I love her, and I know that she loves me. I don't wan't her as my girlfriend, it's not that kind of love. Actually we talked about our friendship once and thought that it was odd that we haven't had any "boy-girl" thing between us. There's that trust I like between us :)

By the way: Not a bad idea to make a thread about the definition of love..

izchan

21st August 2002, 10:28

Not that I don't want to start the thread ... :) ... but I have found that it takes a lot of responsibility of maitaining a thread. It was only fortunate that this thread had a lot of loyal followers and well .. the topic is interesting.

As for the 2 gender no 'sex' relationship ... :) ... that will include the 'boy-girl' relationship ... it happends ...

I have personaly several such relationship (... mainly because I am too ugly to be taken to any outings ... so they keep me as a mouth and ear person .. :) .. never the face ) ... you don't get that urge to 'HAVE' them ... you just enjoy their company or conversation.

That is what I talk about when I mean love.

Love is many a thing,
it is like water,
ever changing,
ever required,
which can kill and heal the same time.

the scope of the subject is interesting too ... the love of brotherhood (and sisterhood) .. the love of parent and child ... the love of religion ... the love of life ... the love of marriege .... and many more ... all of them are love ... if you have a relationship then you have are in 'LOVE' ... and if you know how to contribute into the relationship, then you will know how to love.

It is simple and straight foward ...
to love or not, there is no try ... :) [just to quote YODA]
give or give not, there is no other way ...

I am no saint, nor do I pretend to be one.
I am merely a mortal, with knowledge of heartaches
where bruises cover every inch of my soul made from my past mistakes.
Yet, in all those pain and suffering, light still shone on me.
for there is love in the air, no matter what the suffering.
As there is life in us all, we choose what and who we are.

if you know that, you WILL know 'TRUE LOVE' ... :) ... or should I say, 'TOTAL LOVE' ... for that is what it is. One love is no different from another, no matter what situation, no matter the time, no matter the place, no matter the person.

hope i don't sound too 'mushy' ... but that is what I feel and live by.

Lapikas

21st August 2002, 10:50

Originally posted by izchan
I am no saint, nor do I pretend to be one.
I am merely a mortal, with knowledge of heartaches
where bruises cover every inch of my soul made from my past mistakes.
Yet, in all those pain and suffering, light still shone on me.
for there is love in the air, no matter what the suffering.
As there is life in us all, we choose what and who we are.

Hahah! Few friends told me once that I'm a saint. Didn't know what to reply to that. :) Made me laugh anyway.

I see that you have thought these things pretty much. You have a clear definition what love is to you. and I admire the way you can express yourself with words. I wish I could too. Maybe that's just a matter of learning.

Think I'll go and start reading that poem thread now. Just to kill some time. Maybe I'll learn something from there.. :up:

manthabeats

21st August 2002, 20:32

izchan. I wish I could understand everything about this messed up world, but unfortunately I'm only 18, so that means I still have lots of life to learn. Like I said before, unless something happens, Im going to wait till college to find that certain someone. If I dont find her then, I still have plenty of chances after that because my future career choice involves heavy people interaction, and who knows...maybe the one for me is in Hollywood? :rolleyes: Was that a run on sentence? :confused: I can never tell, oh well, it sounds good to me.... :rolleyes:

izchan

22nd August 2002, 12:08

Thank you for understanding ... :)

You will be surprised how hard it is to explain this to my friends in the real world. Most of them can't accept the simplicity in life. I mean not to say it is not complex, but the principle of it is simple.

as for the 18 and going on part, well ... enjoy it. Because that is what life will be. No one will know how and when it will all end. It could end these very minute you are reading this.

Yesterday have gone by.
Tommorow is yet to come.
It is today that we live in.

As for lapikas .. :) .. hope you enjoy the poem thread ... it is one of those things that I enjoy doing the most.

moseley_international

24th August 2002, 08:02

woman are a law on there self!

at 18 all you need is a woman with a high sex drive and nice music and plenty of money.

sod the poem!!!

manthabeats

25th August 2002, 23:19

As for sex, it can wait. What I'm looking for is someone who likes to do the same things I do, and understands things. What I'd have to do is understand what her wants and needs are etc. Boy does that sound cheesy, oh well... Anyway, Im old enough so I think im going to try those yahoo personals and stuff etc, see if that works.

raifield

26th August 2002, 03:06

In all that is Holy, if indeed anything is, please put me out of my misery. I just read every single post on this thread. I feel like bursting into incredolous laughter at myself, only I can't quite comprehend what I've just done yet. :weird:

No offense, of course. :D

Anyway, I suppose I'll tackle the girl thing that was brought up, what? A year ago? More? I forget, and I'll be damned if I'm even going back to look. We're talking severe, if temporary, phsycological damage done.
Girls? Not a problem. Why? Not interested. Gay? Nope (and boy, I get asked that a lot). Mix some Schzoid with a touch of Schizotypal, make me a Furry, and you've got a guy who will laugh with you, smile, and never make one advance. Not unlike many other guys, I'm thinking. :rolleyes:

I don't mind though. Interesting lifestyle. Going to get more interesting now that I'm starting college...in nine days. :eek:

Relationships be damned! Who's with me?

...

That's what I thought! :winamp: Fight the Power! :winamp: :p

PS: These Smilies are great!

Lapikas

26th August 2002, 07:52

What do you call a man who's not intrested in men or women? Desexual? :p

Fury13RT

30th August 2002, 13:10

What do you call a man who's not intrested in men or women?

...Smart :D

Aquila Blue

30th August 2002, 23:47

Originally posted by Lapikas
What do you call a man who's not intrested in men or women? Desexual? :p

Asexual would be the term you're looking for I think. It applies also to woman who are not interested in men or women as well.

pixiefied

31st August 2002, 01:08

<--- single.will be for a while.(i abuse my men):D

missyob

31st August 2002, 11:11

I cant believe this thread is still alive.

Is this the longest period of time a thread has remained going?

~ Missy

c2R

31st August 2002, 11:39

I think the one about "who would you toss" out of a boat probably went on longer...

...though the discussion in this thread is probably better than that in the other.

missyob

1st September 2002, 02:05

That is right, I forgot all about the who would you toss out of the boat thread. I think if this one keeps going it will surpass that one though.

GIRLS RULE!

~ Missy

papadoc

1st September 2002, 03:45

This thread: 21 pages, 831 replies, 26451 views.
Who Would You Toss: 13 pages, 497 replies, 5959 views.
Current MP3 thread: 61 pages, 2423 replies, 32093 views.

But I think this thread has helped more people,
deal with little problems in life, than any other around.
And that's to the credit of those who post here.

p.s. hey Spunkbubble.
We miss you!

manthabeats

1st September 2002, 04:02

This is kind of late since I haven't replied in a while :confused: , but I forgot to say this... Girls aren't the downfall of society. Girls are just hard to get (for me anyway :( ). Rude People and lazy people are the downfall of society. :blah:

fwgx

10th September 2002, 12:26

Now if only someone wold invent a transporter device (like a train) that travelled through time and space (like a train), that only took about 2 hrs to get to Cardiff from Newcastle (like a plane) then the world would be a much better place. I think someone should strap a big jet engine to a train and build a completly straight bit of track through england. I'm sure that would only make the journey 40mins instead of 6.5 hrs.

Who ever read through all the posts in this thread deserves a medal, and for all those who will read it all from the start, here's another one to slow you down :p.

fwgx

10th September 2002, 12:42

ignore. uploads don't work from this machine.

fwgx

28th October 2002, 11:23

:( x infinity :cry:

izchan

29th October 2002, 03:11

Now it has been sometime since my last post in this thread. And given that I still visit here once in a while.

Maybe I should be more specific. This thread have had some serious impact on my current relationship. And frankly, it has made me keep things in a clearer perspective than before.

thanks to people like papadoc, phily, missy ... :),jns, and everyone else that I miss to name. The conversations are intuitive and thought provoking ( after reading through the entire thread everything would be mental provoking as well )

Now I would still stick to the fact that the world will fall on its own weight, with or without the assistance on the female gender.

Goood night and sweet dreams.

Lapikas

1st November 2002, 11:30

I agree that world will eventually fall.. And girls are not what this threads topic claims. Just in case if I forgot to mention earlier. I didn't have girlfriend when I first read this thread. I don't know if this has affected anyway to the relationship I have now. But I think that this thread was pretty interesting.

And manthabeats, girls are sometimes hard to get.. But someone will definetly come to your life someday. I had to wait for a long time, but I didn't lose my faith. Have some patience..

And since this is going nicely offtopic, I think I put a nice quote here...

No woman no cry
I'll say: Fuck Bob Marley!! :D
Just MOO!! to you all :up:

fwgx

3rd February 2003, 18:28

406 days later :(

fwgx

3rd February 2003, 20:06

or not.

Keldrif

15th February 2003, 02:55

Yes all fall before the beauty of the goddess helen hunt
damn that hank azara is a lucky mutha

izchan

17th February 2003, 08:25

The management of this thread ... KUDOS!!! ... for such a long thread. But it seems that we have all one way or another forgotten, that we are all human, and we get hurt.

Just remember, don't do anything that you will regret later, for in life, it is a one way street, there is no going back.

Long live woman, Long live pain, and life goes on.

Talk to you guys later.

Fickle

18th February 2003, 04:38

I'm wondering why this is in the "Breaking News" area. This has been knowledge for billions of years....

jns

3rd March 2003, 18:54

This was originally in the propaganda forum, I believe.

And.. this thread still around? :igor:

XGN

11th March 2003, 04:26

I miss my propaganda forum - it had inspired me to keep feeding you guys propaganda... :p

izchan

11th March 2003, 08:56

Propaganda ... smuchaganda ..
just keep the thread alive ... :)

fwgx

27th May 2003, 06:11

oNaMiSsIo

28th May 2003, 01:55

Originally posted by Denzil
In high school, girls went out with 23 yr old guys with cars, jobs and cell phones.
Now that I am 23, have a car, job and cell phone, I have no girl.

sounds like a personal problem. im 17, and i have car, girl, cell, job, ect right now. not to brag or anything...

papadoc

28th May 2003, 02:24

Originally posted by Fickle
I'm wondering why this is in the "Breaking News" area. This has been knowledge for billions of years....
It's in Breaking News because one day, in a drunken stupor,
Steve and Justin and Mike the Llama decided that
Propaganda and Music-O-Rama had to go.
So they came up with the idea of making Music-O-Rama
into DJ & Listener Center, and putting Propaganda into Breaking News.
This place has never been the same since.
But good threads will never die.
They are the only ties to better days gone by.

fwgx

28th May 2003, 08:22

1 year 5 months and 2 days later and I'm single again. Not unexpected, has seemed to have been in the pipe line for a while. Thankfully nothng messy and we're still friends. Still a sad time though.

avatar3o

28th May 2003, 08:25

I wish I was born gay. :(

papadoc

28th May 2003, 13:31

Originally posted by Sawg
Confuse people even more and move "Current MP3's Being Played" here :D
That'd be like rearranging the furniture in a blind man's house,
while he's out letting the dog walk him.

izchan

4th June 2003, 04:55

Maybe i am just sentimental, but after speaking with spunk yesterday, i could not help but come back here and read the whole 22 page thread again ... :)

It is still one of the most interesting threads around.

fwgx

4th June 2003, 11:50

You really should find something better to do with your time. That's a whole shed load of long posts to re-read!

izchan

5th June 2003, 06:40

i know, i am still cockeyed over the reading .. :)
does not help when I am doing overnight programming. :)

papadoc

2nd July 2003, 15:17

Originally posted by izchan
but after speaking with spunk yesterday
How is spunkbubble? She is missed.

jns is back
but did he find a girlfriend
or just a nightmare

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/sad/nixweiss.gif

izchan

4th July 2003, 07:00

the concluding chapthers of JSN TRIAL ... :)

you will have to contact him on the matter ...

as for spunk ... she is in a new spring with another guy. heard that he was quite a chap too ... but then again, only time could tell.... :)

hey papa ... how are you doing?

WhitePhantom

11th July 2003, 05:07

Interesting forum, but disturbed by the original comment "Girls are the downfall of society." Obviously he doesn't get in touch with his feminine side. It's a little like comparing apples and oranges: you have to know the right combination to make a great fruit salad...

fwgx

11th July 2003, 09:02

Plenty of peaches! ;)

WhitePhantom

11th July 2003, 13:31

The Joy Of Sharing

A young man saw an elderly couple sitting down to lunch at McDonald's. He noticed that they had ordered one meal, and an extra drink cup. As he watched, the older gentleman carefully divided the hamburger in half, then counted out the fries, one for him, one for her, until each had half of them.

Then the old man poured half of the soft drink into the extra cup and set that in front of his wife. The old man then began to eat, and his wife sat watching, with her hands folded in her lap.

The young man decided to ask if they would allow him to purchase another meal for them so that they didn't have to split theirs.

The old gentleman said, "Oh, no. We're old. This is plenty for us. Besides, we've been married 50 years, and everything has always been and will always be shared, 50/50."

The young man then asked the wife if she was going to eat her share, and she replied, "Not yet. This time he gets the first turn with the teeth."

See there... we can all get along if we want to.

GEMINI DREAMS

12th July 2003, 14:41

I like your story WhitePhantom ... thats sweet...

spunkbubble

13th July 2003, 12:21

Originally posted by papadoc
How is spunkbubble? She is missed.

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/sad/nixweiss.gif

spunkbubble is just fine. ;) How are you, papadoc? It's been a very long time. I am now at uni, studying psychology, I just received my first exam results back and I have passed everything, I am quite pleased about that. :)

I went on a date with a new boy I have met. So we shall see what happens there!

I still look exactly the same, unfortunately *lol*.

I'll be dropping back again, so drop me a reply! :up: :) Papadoc, did you ever get msn or aim or icq or y!?

izchan

13th July 2003, 14:28

: This is what I say

Woman will be woman
and Man will be man
if they get along, fine.
if they dont, big deal.
just find another

No point getting all worked up
over matters so little
it is insignificant at the end
when it is the coffin that goes down with you
and not her.

so take heed
man will love
and woman be loved
if the equation falters
blame it on the weather
because it probably is summer again.

A poem :) ... it says it all.

papadoc

13th July 2003, 17:33

Hey Spunk. Good to see you back.
Sounds like things are going great.
I hope you know I'm still really proud of you.
And if you still look the same then I'm still impressed.

:):up:

Me...I'm hangin in there.
I was diagnosed with Menieres Disease (http://www.dizziness-and-balance.com/disorders/menieres/menieres.html) a few of weeks ago, in my right ear.
I have good days and bad days.
But if I can beat drug addiction I can live with this too.
It's just gonna take some time to get used to it.
And I refuse to let it get me down.

Take care and keep up the good work.
Don't let those guys try to change you, ok?

:D

spunkbubble

14th July 2003, 09:39

Nice poem, izchan. :)

Hiya papdoc. Yea, stuff is going quite well at the moment, I must admit. It somehow feels more comfortable to be miserable but I have difficulty doing that so much lately.
Hey, why be proud of me, I haven't done anything to earn it yet!

I am sorry to hear you have Menieres Disease, I know a few people (relatives) who also have it. At times my ear rings, softly, but it goes away and only happens rarely.

Nobody is going to change me, not ever!

izchan

15th July 2003, 10:23

wow.papadoc. that sounds severe. I hope you get well.

I might not suffer from your problem. But i do get the occasional loss of hearing due to rinnging in the ears.

the doctors say it is my imagination. But who knows.

cheerio.

Fickle

16th July 2003, 04:51

I say bring back propaganda. It sounds neat. o.

Tavernology

22nd July 2003, 16:30

Damn this is a huge thread. I found this a while back, and have been slowly reading the entire damn thing. I actually found it as a side-link to something a friend showed me, and signed up because this thread interested me, and the people here seem to really care about each other.

What can I say? Izchan, you sound like a very rare person. Somebody who knows what they want, can say what they want, and can express emotions openly. A very rare thing in today's world. spunkbubble & jns sound like very good people who shouldn't get screwed around like they seem to have been in the past.

Love will hurt eventually. There is no if's, but's, or maybe's about it. Whether this is a week after you meet, or when you are both old & grey, and lying in your deathbeds, it hurts eventually. The question is whether or not the eventual pain is worth the trip you will take together to reach it.

In many cases, the answer is no, and people will break up all the time. Sometimes they try to stick together for whatever reason, but if it isn't going to work, 9/10 times, this is a bad idea. Relationships end, and there is no way to have a love affair with someone that will keep you as excited as it does in the first couple of weeks of fire & passion. The question is whether or not you can actually truly love somebody, not just have a surface level affection for them, but actually develop a heart-felt, deep feeling, true love for the other person. This means a different thing to everybody, and when you figure that out, then you can go searching for that person, and if you want to, you can still have relationships while you search. Just remember to enjoy them while they last, and do not go into the relationship either expecting her to be 'the one', nor do you go into it expecting her to not be 'the one'. If she is, then you have succeeded. If not, then enjoy it while it lasts, and when it ends, pick yourself up out of the pit of misery & despair that you will occasionally find yourself in, and try again.

Just a side note, many people subscribe to an idea of only 1 person who is just right for them, and spend their lives looking for that person. That isn't correct, IMO. There are many people out there that you could be happy spending your remaining days on this little blue planet with. The trick is finding them, and having them feel the same about you as you do about them. A relationship where neither one of you is truly in love, but you both have a surface level affection for the other person is fine if you can handle that, and both care about each other. It is not something that will last forever, if even particularly long, so do not expect such things to be long-lasting, love-of-your-life experiences. They are fun for you both while it lasts, but is far from permanent.

A permanent relationship is a very big thing, and many people aren't ready for it. People mature at different rates, and one 18 Yr old girl could be ready for that, while another just couldn't handle something as important as that. Just don't expect your partner to be something they aren't, and accept them as they are. Many people wander this world without a clue what tey truly want, and hence they never find it. Many of these people are perfectly happy in their own little corner of the world, and if you are happy, then so be it. Just try to find somebody that makes you happy, makes your world just that little bit more pleasant, and enjoy the ride while it lasts.

Tavernology

22nd July 2003, 17:14

Wow. How's that for a first post, eh?
And in all that, I forgot to mention that girls aren't the cause of the downfall of society. Nor are women. Nor are men or boys (Most of us can't tell the difference between man & boy, but that's another rant for another time). There is no single cause for the downfall of society, and as yet, it hasn't happened. We are just a group of 6 or 7 billion people trying to edge out our own little niche in the world, and trying to be happy. Anybody who can do that, congratulations. To everyone else that hasn't got there yet, keep trying, and don't give up.

ShyShy

22nd July 2003, 17:20

very good 1st post, Tavernology. and i agree with you that "There are many people out there that you could be happy spending your remaining days on this little blue planet with." i'd be depressed if it were the other way around.

btw... welcome to the insanity

Mr_007

22nd July 2003, 17:28

Very wonder story?

rocketgirl

22nd July 2003, 19:03

you know....there is some truth to this story...when i was in high school i only dated guys out of high school mainly because they had a car, money and could get me wasted.

now i am much older and wonder why 20 something guys where going out with teenagers.....i mean...ew.

anyway, there's no secret to picking up girls... hangout where kids hang out and meet a girlchild, buy her stuff, taxi her around and do whatever she says....basicly be her bizatch. and in return she will mostlikely never sleep with you and you will recieve death threats from her father. doesnt that sound like fun?

Tavernology

24th July 2003, 11:34

I'm 20, and I have no interest in teenagers. For the most part, they bugged me even when I was one of them. Many are shallow, pathetic little individuals who have not grown up at all since they were 12 or 13, and I thought this at the time I had to go to school with a heap of them. I truly do not understand the desire for 20-something guys to date teenie-bopper 16 year olds.

There are some people there that are genuinely nice people, who are real people, not just following the latest Britney craze, or something equally bizarre & sheepish. People who are actually what they appear to be, people who are true to themselves. These people are rare, but the ones I find, I am friends with, and I value them dearly.

The stuff I wrote above I have gathered from my experiences, and the experiences of my friends. I have picked it up from listening to all sides of many a relationship discussion. Every relationship is different, as are all people. If it were any other way, would life be as interesting or fun?

rocketgirl

30th July 2003, 01:24

I have no interest in teenagers. For the most part, they bugged me even when I was one of them. Many are shallow, pathetic little individuals who have not grown up at all since they were 12 or 13,

i hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of "adults" who have this mentality as well.

ryan

30th July 2003, 01:29

I though this thread was long dead...

<3 girls

:)

SemiTechGeek

30th July 2003, 03:55

Old threads never die they just terminate themselves

Fickle

30th July 2003, 04:13

I like all the oldies that swing by. It's the shizznizzle up in my grizzle.

ShyShy

30th July 2003, 06:35

but i'm not the stereo-typical girl:cry:

at least i try my damndest not to be, hell, i've even paid for dates. i'm actually sick of women/girls who just always expect the "princess" treatment, as if it was their due. gawd... it kills me, these females ruin it for the rest of us.

Tavernology

30th July 2003, 07:41

Rocketgirl, I know there are heaps of adults that act that way aswell, I ignore them, too.
ShyShy, I know what you mean. anyone who expects to get the princess treatment is a fool who needs to wake up to reality. I'm a nice guy, and I treat people well, but I'm not about to make my life revolve around some stupid, stuck-up pain in the ass. I much prefer real people.

izchan

30th July 2003, 11:06

wow, the thread never ceases to amaze me ... :)
Thanks for the complement Tavernology. I only do my best and pray it works ... :)

Ah the 'Pricess Treatment' ... well ... as the saying goes, there is no such thing as a FREE LUNCH ... :) ... eventually everyone pays up ... :)

As for the death treats, you will get them wheather you are dating a 16 year old or a 36 year old. Fathers will always be fathers. Me I just make sure I have enough condoms ... :) ... hey you won't know, you might end up with an animal ... :P

Jokes a side. Just take things as they come, and handle it the most mature way you know how. If crap hits the fan, remember ... there is always the umbrella to hide under.

Enjoy the thread and hopefully someone can make it live again ... :)

It is afterall the ONE thread that has not TERMINATED itself ... :)

rocketgirl

30th July 2003, 15:40

the princess treatment....to hell with that....i'm getting worshiped like a goddess or its no go.

Tavernology

30th July 2003, 17:35

Demon overlord perhaps. Goddess no.

tparker

30th July 2003, 19:05

I think you are onto something there i watched a show on History Channel where World War II used women spies to get info from Soldiers and they were successful they cost a lot of Countries many a life and the War by getting codebreaker.There are some good wmen out there they are few and far in between that odds are you are going to get burned.All through History women have been man's downfall not their fault our's for not being smart enough to see through them.I am a lot older and wiser now and i haven't dated in two years and wouldn't trade it for nothing.No man knows what they really want they don't know so how are we supposed to know?I know one thing they are high maintnance one's that cost a small fortune some more than others.The best kind are the one's that were born and didn't get a chance or oppurtunity to run around in High School with Jocks and older men who had money/cars/Cell Phone and a home of his own.I could go on forever i think you get the point though .Moral of story keep your Pc as best friend

rocketgirl

30th July 2003, 21:15

tparker....but i was one of those gals that did date older guys in high school..and i am a fine woman.

ShyShy

31st July 2003, 06:26

wow, tparker, you must have gotten burned pretty badly. sorry for you man. i've got the problem that i can't seem to find a guy who doesn't have issues, whether they be from past relationships or actual mental issues. *sighs* i just want a "normal" guy.

izchan

31st July 2003, 11:07

Man .. the ever foolish animal.
Do you know why we are on longer in eden?
Because we listen to woman instead of GOD.
Mind you, I am not saying that it was woman that got us kicked out, rather, think about it, we ignored the all powerful, the ONE!!! the big guy and listen to a WOMAN!!!! What kind of a fool is that?

Next, as a man myself I understand that I am weak. :) ... I am weak and foolish because I keep falling in love with the same kind of woman. The kind that treats me like trash and the kind that thinks that they control every single cell of my body.

Now that I have said my part. I will explain why I am not grumpy :)

Because I know that at the end. We all die.
thats it, the end, no more sequels.
there is nothing left to think about.
we are dead.

so, the only that I can do is to be happy.
Even if the woman in my life thinks that I am good for nothing other than drive her around, she still cuddles in my arm when she needs warmth. She still makes me breakfast in the morning, because she knows that I am easier to control with a full stomach. She is my partner in this life, and I enjoy it. The who is in control factor is something of an oversight, I don't mind giving up some control as long as the effect of it is not severe.

The basic of any good relationship is this
1. Know who you are.
2. Know who they are.
3. Know that someone has to give.
4. Decide that and live on.

I love my gf, I want to live the rest of my mortal life with her.
But is that enough? Because she too must think the same way. That is the hard part. We make do with what we have and create miracles. I hope she feels the same way, because I have had these kind of discussions with her as well.

Man don't just roll over and die.
Man eats shit if required.
Because that is how things are completed.
and woman, like it or not, completes man.

Thank you and enjoy the thread. :)

fwgx

31st July 2003, 14:31

I've learned a lot about women. I think I've learned exactly how the fall of man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at one with nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never die, and all our dreams come true the instant that we have them." And Eve said, "Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

There are very special teenagers out therethat aren't stupid shallow teeny bopers. I should know, I've found the perfect one.

rocketgirl

31st July 2003, 16:05

gee...i wonder if the bible was written by men :(

Mr_007

31st July 2003, 16:28

Yes this girl is .....!!!

rocketgirl

1st August 2003, 14:50

mr_007...is a girl?

Mattress

1st August 2003, 15:51

I think Adam's actions in the garden of eden are pretty much representative of humanity in general. Do what everyone else is doing, even if you know it's wrong. Blame someone else when you get caught.

tecton

1st August 2003, 19:36

here is how it is

if you dont believe in yourself...nobody else will

girls want a guy with confidence.

Material things dont matter...if your girl says otherwise...you dont need her.

Guys dont act all big and bad when they are alone with the girl. Its called showing off. If a guy acts all big and bad when they are alone he is abusive.

Case in point...i joke around with my friends letting their girls boss them around and how i never let that happen...but ill tell you that if i dont call my gf first thing in the morning to see if she wants to do anything than im going to get it later on.

But most of all...dont be a sniviling little pathetic "im such a loser" all the time. Girls dont like that.

And if your not happy then a girl wont solve that. Girls arent meant to bring you happiness...they are meant to share it with you.

Mattress

1st August 2003, 20:10

Nicely put Tecton :up:

rocketgirl

1st August 2003, 21:43

totally..the "i'm such a looser" bit never works.

Saiz66

3rd August 2003, 07:33

Hi i needed help with girls and started reading this forum to see if it would help me out... but after reading all these pages i am a very very very old man now and must go to sleep ... j/k... this is what i think: Pain is Love and if that is true than the more the pain is the more love there is... and wats more painful than death?... i met my love of my life at a drinking party and i got shitfaced (NEVER MIX DRINKS!!!!) and she tried to kill me by giving me window cleaner fluid to drink when i was already intoxicated and would drink anything anybody gave me in liquid form... (luckily her girlfriend stopped her and saved my life) since she wanted to cause me the most pain by killing me i think she loves me the greatest and hung on to her till now... it's been almost 3 years ;) and counting... i know this doesnt make much sense but it worked for me some fricken how.. well wat i am trying to say is that u should cherish the people that try to kill you!

P.s. that might be very bad advice (o well).

Tavernology

3rd August 2003, 11:13

I know what I want from a relationship. I am a nice guy. I am confident in myself, and I am still completely unattached, despite many attempts to rectify my situation. I don't have a heap of issues, but most my friends consider me pretty strange & weird. I don't know what women want. I am me, and I am quite happy being by myself. All I want is somebody who I can love, who will love me, and who I can snuggle up with and wrap my arms around, and be content.

Apparently that's too much to ask of the world. So be it. I no longer care. Be happy with yourself. If you can find somebody to share your short existance with, then enjoy the time you can spend together. I am happy with myself for now. Screw them all. I don't care anymore. I quit.

brokensaint

3rd August 2003, 12:20

It's because women lack that stabilizing Y chromosome, you may as well predict the lottery with same amount of accuracy.

steak

3rd August 2003, 13:20

Originally posted by rocketgirl
gee...i wonder if the bible was written by men :(
Quite probably.

rocketgirl

3rd August 2003, 17:15

i know...i was just being sarcastic...yes...ther recourse of a weak mind, but it's my forte'.

as far as loving meaning pain...i dont get that...at all. the bit about the love the ones who try to kill you was funny though...but if you think love means pain, you really fall for some mean women.

tavernology....this is good...usually when you give up and convince yourself you dont want a relationship...thats when it happens...when you've given up and have nothing to lose by doing whatever you damn well please. BTW...how old are you? jus curious.

Saiz66

3rd August 2003, 22:08

anybody know any good jokes?

rocketgirl

4th August 2003, 02:47

a blond walks into a bar....ouch.

ok..my jokes are stupid. jokes arent normally funny anyway.

izchan

4th August 2003, 09:51

Saiz66 ...

nothing beats praticality ... :) ... don't just read about it. Do it.

You might say, 'I Cant Get one in the FIRST PLACE!!!!'

well ... thats the point. If you are constantly trying to get into a relationship, you will never get one.

Before any 'boygirl' relationship, there is friendship. If you can't even hold a friend down, then you need to improve before it will ever reach the 'I am in love' relationship.

So don't just read about relationships, go and practice and have one. Once you understand the person, you will then understand their thoughts and needs. With that, you can then decide if for whats it worth, if you are capable to being that person that she/he needs. If you can't even provide the simple needs of theirs, it does matter if you are the king of the world, you will still be unable to attain the relationship that will last.

As for the man is weak portion that I wrote above.
It is suppose to mean that we need to understand ourself as well as our partner, only when we know ourself better, can we participate in a long lasting relationships.

As I said before. Know yourself, know your partner. Only through understanding can a path be found.

Go and have a relationship.
Be it end with tears
or last forever.
it always begin with ourself
and end with faith.

enjoy.

Saiz66

5th August 2003, 03:31

hey rocketgirl is that you in the picture?

ShyShy

5th August 2003, 07:19

here's an example of a girl i try my damndest not to be:

a good friend of mine "the guy" has been dating a total drama-bitch for the past two years, we've all asked him why puts up with her crap. prime example, the guys (my ex included)planned a huge all guys trip to Fort Lauderdale for spring break. drama-bitch threw the biggest hissy fit on this earth and every day the guys were there, she would call him every day and at practically almost every hour to "check" on him. this drove everybody nuts, including us girlfriends because she would try to get us to check on our guys. i didn't and needn't have to. she just wanted us to be as suspicious as she is. i finally got tired of her incessant phone calls and told her "why the fuck do you want to piss off your man while he's down where beautiful women are everywhere? you're just begging for trouble." and to this day, i'm the only "girlfriend" that knows that they ALL went to strip bars a couple of times. and know what? "the guy" never once, did anything he had to hide. he's been always true to her, and she in returns tightens the noose ever so slightly each day.

Tavernology

5th August 2003, 12:14

Rocketgirl, I'm 20, and I didn't mean love means pain, it just will end up in it, and is unavoidable.

My reasons for not giving a rat's arse about anything anymore is related to a number of things. i seriously doubt I'll be looking for a gf for a fair while. If one falls in my lap, then I'll be happy with the development, but My recent experiences have shown me there are more important things in the world than women & sex. Meaningless, shallow relationships are not worth it, and real, deep relationships are too damn hard to develop, and hurt too much when they end.

Changing to be more like what the woman you love says she wants just screws you over completely, then she does the same. Shallow people cannot see the depths of a deep person's soul, as the depths have no mirror in the shallows, and cannot be seen by them.

Sorry for ranting a bit there. Like Izcahn said, "we need to understand ourself as well as our partner, only when we know ourself better, can we participate in a long lasting relationships" Last attempt of mine ddin't have a fucking clue about herself, or what she wants.

rocketgirl

5th August 2003, 16:14

Saiz66 yeah..that'd be my big head.

shyshy, that sounds like my brother and sister in law. i think he likes the sensation of having no balls. :(

tavernology...i still disagree with the love and pain thing. find the right person to love and keep them..where's the pain? Its so simple people cant seem to wrap their minds around it...your not the only one that disagrees, so dont feel attacked. but I assure you, my way works....very well might i add :)

Tavernology

6th August 2003, 09:53

Well, let's just say that in my experience, there is pain in all things.

rocketgirl

6th August 2003, 15:06

bummer.

Tavernology

6th August 2003, 15:27

My sentiments exactly.
All relationships have their ups & downs, and when the down gets too deep, the participants cannot crawl out of the hole they dug, and it must end. Not all must end, sometimes the relationship can survive anything, and they live happily ever after. Most fon't, and occasionally, both parties agree that it isn't working, and it must end. So both are hurt far less, but it will still hurt to end a relationship somewhere along the line.
"Find the right person to love, and keep them" Sounds simple enough, but these are the two hardest things in the world.
I have yet to find somebody I can truly love, who is willing to feel the same about me. Every relationship I've been in has turned out to be a hollow shell of what I want, and meant nothing, or very little, to the woman I loved at the time. Tell me again how there is no pain in love?

izchan

7th August 2003, 11:59

relationships are a game for two.

two must give or it does not work.

if only one give, then the other is a parasite.

If both don't give, then they just want sex.

If one is undecided, then that is a bummer.

but most of all, if one is unfaithful, then might as well find another.

relationship can be attribute to as a simbiotic priciple. If both don't get something from it, it is better off alone.

comprede?

enjoy.

rocketgirl

8th August 2003, 00:26

tavernology....dont worry...your still young. :)

the_dude4444

8th August 2003, 09:19

Robin Willianms:Language was developed for one endevor and that is ....
Student: To communicate.
Robin Willianms: No, to woo women" - Dead Poets Society

Tavernology

10th August 2003, 12:13

Yeah, I was just kinda pissed off then. I'm better now. Me & a couple of friends spent about 3 hours talking about stuff, having a deep & meaningful, and figuring out the meaning of life kinda thing. We've all had a pretty strange last couple of weeks. None of it bothers me anymore, I realised I don't need anyone or anything to make me happy.

rocketgirl

11th August 2003, 16:45

thats good. i think we're all searching to be completed by something or someone...but if your not happy, nothing will make you truely happy....so...right on.

Tavernology

12th August 2003, 10:12

Mmm. I just miss having somebody to love, is all. But frankly, I no longer give a rat's arse about any of that shit.

izchan

12th August 2003, 11:04

ah denial ... :)
a good proof that we are still human ... :)

Tavernology

12th August 2003, 14:51

Denial is not denial when it is the truth.

izchan

14th August 2003, 12:29

: Denial

what is the truth?
it is so objective.
is it wrong to be right?
or is it right to be wrong?
ah denial ...
the key to sanity ...
as we are only human

My two cents ..

rocketgirl

14th August 2003, 15:56

ok..this is getting way too deep.

Tavernology

14th August 2003, 16:00

'Deep' is little more than a matter of opinion. Some people would consider this entire thread too deep & complex to even begin to comprehend, while others would find it interesting & stimulating, and able to get them thinking about a great many things.

the_dude4444

14th August 2003, 23:42

Deep is reletive, but what you can say about this thread for sure: It's long.

rocketgirl

14th August 2003, 23:56

true dat! it sho nuf is long

tavernology..i was just trying to lighten the mood a bit. i find it interesting...otherwise i'd not keep tabs on this thread :)

WhitePhantom

15th August 2003, 00:48

To realize
The value of a sister:
Ask someone Who doesn't have one.

To realize
The value of ten years:
Ask a newly Divorced couple.

To realize
The value of four years:
Ask a graduate.

To realize
The value of one year:
Ask a student who has failed a final exam.

To realize
The value of one month:
Ask a mother who has given birth to a premature baby.

To realize
The value of one week:
Ask an editor of a weekly newspaper.

To realize
The value of one hour:
Ask the lovers who are waiting to meet.

To realize
The value of one minute:
Ask a person who has missed the train, bus or plane.

To realize
The value of one-second:
Ask a person who has survived an accident.

To realize
The value of one millisecond:
Ask the person who has won a silver medal in the Olympics.

Time waits for no one.
Treasure every moment you have.
You will treasure it even more when you can share it with someone special.

To realize
The value of a friend:
Lose one.

In other words, live each day as if it were your last, love one another 'til it hurts. "'Tis better to have known love, then never to have loved at all."

My two cents worth...

Peace love and prosperity to all.

;) :cool: :cool: :p

izchan

15th August 2003, 11:01

swim deeper into the pool, there you will understand that life is not what it seems to be.

the_dude4444

15th August 2003, 14:41

I don't have a sister!
and I don't know this article with the "sister" part.
BTW, to add to that:
To realize
The value of six months:
Ask a graduate of an IDF programmers class.

spunkbubble

28th September 2004, 13:21

Long time, no posts, eh?

Thought I might drop in and see how everyone is going; if any views have changed, etc.

I am now 19, working in a specialist's clinic, and have been with my boyfriend for *drum roll* over a year. :D

I feel so much older now, and you know, a lot of the shit we talked about in here, you being to realise just is so irrelevant and just.. pointless. I had to wait for ages and be miserable until I found somebody to love, but it's all worth it because now i have found him. I didn't find him by changing who I am or upping my social status by buying a fancy car or mobile phone. If you have to do that, ultimately it wont' last anyway, so how futile is that? ANyway, how has everybody else's lives turned out? It's been ages, fill me in, let's catch up!

Will type more later! hit me with some replies, guys, if you even remember me! :p

fwgx

28th September 2004, 22:00

Well after living hundreds of miles away from my girlfriend for 3 years I get an interview for a job in her home town. Then she gets REALLY pissed because of this because she doesn't want to stay in Cardiff. Then we decide to move in together, then she decided that she doesn't want to and that we should break up. We do that and agree to stay friends and talk on the phone. Then she decides that she doesn't want to do that either. So I'm moving down there on Saturday, starting work on the 4th.

I want to buy a pussy wagon and have lots of hot meaningless sex because it's something I've never done and feel like I've missed out a lot in my child/early ******hood.

So what do you suggest is the best pussy wagon around for £9k? I'm thinking either Audi A3 or Seat Leon Cupra R. But I am unsure at the pussy pulling power of these vehicles.

MegaRock

28th September 2004, 22:33

Sounds like she wasn't ever really your girlfriend. Get the Audi.

izchan

29th September 2004, 01:51

I concur with the audi ....

As for the other matter ... here is my two cents

Girlfriends come and go
wives will bleed you to death
the wagon is forever .... :)

Do I still believe in love?
Of course I do, what else could I do with the rest of my life?

MegaRock

29th September 2004, 02:17

Women are just as full of shit as men are.
Women lie just as much as men do.
Women will cheat just as much as men do.
Women love to flirt and have sex just as much as men do.

What's the moral of the story?

The only difference between men and women are the tools they have and men can't get pregnant. Other than that expect from a woman the same things you would expect from a man.

Kinda makes life look bleak, don't it? It's not going to make me stop liking women though. :)

izchan

29th September 2004, 04:21

Took the words out of my mouth ... other than the fact someone said that woman are from venus ... go figure.

I do have a little to add to that though, if you think that woman are the same as man, you will be sourly surprise because they are more than that. If you underestimate them ... my friend ... you will go down your grave faster than you will ever know.

Hear this ...

If you come across a woman and a snake ... choose the snake, at least you will know that they will bite.

:) ... does it stop me from liking woman? of course not, life is nothing without some adventure.

spunkbubble

30th September 2004, 12:36

*disappointed* *shakes head* We're not all that bad, you know!

ShyShy

30th September 2004, 16:40

Hi ya, izchan! *waves* And I remember you a bit, spunkbubble.

You have to admit, this thread is a bit amazing in how us gals get to view the guys' side of things. Although, some opinions are a bit over the top. ;)

I'm married now, to a guy who was about to give up on finding a woman. That, I think is the key. Stop looking among the girls/boys *immaturity*, and cast your eyes on another section of society. Those people that are comfortable with who they are, and know that relationships are 40/60 each way.

And don't expect perfection, you're never gonna get it. My husband once said that I was perfect. I told him to never use that word at me again. I'm far from perfect.

izchan

1st October 2004, 02:19

Hello ShyShy ... :) ... be it me or just almost every man in the world, we all agree that we love our woman. They are not perfect, they are not nice but they make us happy (and sad and angry and lost) all in one nice bundle.

Man, we are simple things. We love, we hate and we sleep. :)

Woman in the other hand is more than simple. They are an enigma to our eyes. Logic does not always apply. Even emotions are not a good gauge of how things work.

for example. Just last week. My girlfriend gave me the 10th degree, for making a mistake while cleaning the house. I mean, it was an honest mistake and I apologize for it. I rectify my error and continued on. But she, well ... she did not. She just suddenly blew up and started saying that I never pay attention to things, I dont keep my promises, I don't listen to her and yada yada yada. Frankly I don't even know where those come from. When I am working, I pay attention to things that I do, but sometimes there small stuffs that get slip through the cracks, I compenstate those by addressing it when it comes up. to me it is about the work, but to her, it is about something else totally. Of couse I know what she is saying, it is not about the work at hand, she is just angry that I made that mistake after she specifically asked me to be careful. And I was carefull just not enough.

That book I read about venus and mars .. it explains to me some of the differences in our thinking, and I can accept it to a certain degree. But there comes a time when those tantrums that she throws, make me totally furious.

I love her. I trully do. I cannot imagine having a life without her. But the way that she treats me when she is having her fit, are those that gives me the feeling that I am the only one in this relationship. Words that she uses, the anger and everything that she does makes me feel like just walking away.

As I said before, man are simple creatures, we love , we hate and we sleep. simple rules nothing complicated. When a man loves, he loves entirely. everything. the good, the bad and the ugly. That has seldom been the problem. But the one thing that man hates is that ones that love is given, he feels that he is betrayed. For example, man help fix the things in house, he works and hopes to make things work. Now lets say, for some reason, one of the things he fixes fails to work, he thinks, ok lets do this another way, but the missus came in at this time and she says "why are you taking so long? can't you fix that at all?" ... man has no idea why he was being blamed for not making the thing work, he is trying his best to make it happend, but woman just came in and BLAMED him for being an idiot.

now what gives with this kind of attitude? And let me put this properly, this is not just happening to me, it is happening to people around me as well. Man as a general feels degraded because of this. We feel that we are just toys and nothing more.

I personally have been through these situation so many times that I sometimes I wonder why do I put myself in these places in the first place. There are more fulfilling things that we can do with our lives then spend it by letting other people belittling our existance.

But at the end, I am still here, with her, caring and loving. why? because I have to some certain extent, accepted the nature in which woman are. I love her, I truly do, and with that I accept the fact that, that is the way that a woman loves a man. It is how god made them, and we are how god made us.

are they the downfall? god knows ... she made them ... :)

the_dude4444

2nd October 2004, 11:29

I know I haven't contributed much to this post in the past (still suprized thaat it hasn't been locked) but things have changed drasticlly since I have.
To elaborate, I had a stedy girlfriend for about 6 months which I loved very much and I spent most of my time with her to try and understand her :-)
I don't regret us breaking up although I did hope we can resolve our diffrences but we couldn't.
I still like girls (even that one, we're still friends) and wouldn't trade their company for the world.

izchan

5th October 2004, 02:17

hello dude4444, i too am surprise that the thread is alive and kicking ... :). As for your breakup I understand it totally. Neither would I trade my time with all my previous relationships. but the sad fact to me is that, no matter how many of these relationships we have, we will never trully get how they think.

Many a times, I wonder what makes us so different. Why do they have that ability to make me feel so small that I want to kill myself, then at times, they make me feel like a king. They don't really like logical thinking, as they always tend to make me feel that I am always doing something wrong.

Again, the book (mars and venus) says that the female population always do that. It is their way of fixing us. When we feel that we don't much need fixing. What we need though is support, both mentally and physically. All I wanted was to be loved without strings attached. Being manipulated is not what I want in my love life.

They are plenty more in my mind, but I think I will just keep it there for a while.

I love them all.

patriotcow

7th October 2004, 04:42

Hmm I don't understnad how girls think because in school when I was hanging round with all my sad mates I used to fancy this girl. One day I decided I didn't want to hang round with my mates because they're so immature making fun of my name like stephen weven etc... So sad! Anyway I went to my registration class on my own from now on. But now I was on my own the girl I fancied came over with her friends and started talking to me. I don't see why they wouldn't talk to me before when I had friends lol:rolleyes:

hgnis

7th October 2004, 21:25

I seem to recall hearing that one should never trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die. :eek:

izchan

8th October 2004, 04:01

hgnis .... yes ... that is in my quote thread ... :)

and frankly speaking ... does anyone in this world understand woman? I believe even woman don't understand woman.

man ... simple animals ... we laugh, we eat and we sleep. Well there is the occasional sex but that depends on the woman so I rest my case.

ShyShy

8th October 2004, 07:45

Originally posted by izchan
and frankly speaking ... does anyone in this world understand woman? I believe even woman don't understand woman.

Amen brother! Quite frankly, I don't understand most of the women that I know. My best friend and I are lucky in that we both view other women the same way. They're a bunch of wackos :igor: Seriously, would you have stayed with a woman, who for no reason what-so-ever, moved out of your house, taking EVERYTHING and the kids, and moved across the country? My old boss did that to her husband, and he actually drove to Florida and begged her to come back. :weird:

izchan

8th October 2004, 08:03

man are mental cases.

Seriously ... when god made us, he must have made us defective ... what in the world compels us to go through this kind of torture and still asks for more? ... :)

and basically, because we are defective, we very much just filter off all the "negative" things that the other gender bring upon us. We only focus on the good things ... for example ... breasts ... breasts are good things. We live for them. Then there are ... well ... there are other things as well .... important things.

oh come on, who am I kidding here. Our male brain are tune on to one frequency and one frequency alone, the breast on their bodies. All they need to do is like ... flaunt a little bit of flesh, and we become mind dead zombies.

Lost couse ... all lost couses.

as for the kind of terror that a woman can bring? there is no boundaries ... the one from your old boss that is classic example ... here is another one, why would a man stay with the woman who have cheated on him 10 times and more. The woman had the nerve to be cought and then said that she was sorry but she was not to blame because her husband could not satisfy her "need" ... come on ... dude, wake up and smell the flowers man ... if she had her way, she will be sleeping with me too!! ... jesus h christ.

As I said in my previous postings ... man ... a flawed creation ... defective in anything that deals with breast. The bigger the size the more defective we become. There is also the occasional cases where they are addicted to the the females genders foot and butt.

So we have made sense in this particular item. We should discuss the following item. The question is man insane has already an answer and that is yes.

The most important one now is, what does woman want from man when he already gave everything that is him (and more) to be with her. Frankly, I think they don't know either.

What do you think?

PS: For all the females that I have accidently piss off .. well ... I am sorry ... but I am trying to learn from this and make the woman that I am with happy ... soo ... bare with me and just let this idiot (mua) so that he may fall deeper into the labyrinth of hell. Thank you.