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POWERSHAKER
14th July 2001, 04:58
Truthfully, I never used Napster much! There is a much better way of sharing MP3s on mIRC, with the client downloadable from http://www.mirc.com. Then, while you're at it, go grab the SPR Jukebox plugin, downloadable at http://www.spr.wildstar.net or http://spr.hurricaneweb.com, and follow the installation instructions in the help docs. Now you'll be ready to go to work making your music library grow to a gargantuan size. The help file was included and aids in the installation process. Last time I checked, there were 2.1 terabytes of music, and what are they going to do? Shut down everyone's own personal, successful IRC chan they created? Let's get real. Some of these kids are 13 and 14 years of age. I wish I could have been successful enough to have a channel of 1 terabytes in popular tunes to serve up, especially at that age. hehe Well, the RIAA better start getting their task force ready. They have a lot of teenage hormones to render lifeless in court. But, I taught eighth graders English Literature, and I know the RIAA hasn't a chance in hell! Yep! Looks like they'll be there for as long as mp3s are around. The great thing is that mIRC is simply a client. It's compartmentalized into myriad rooms, users' servers and channels and so forth. Good luck! And, have fun making the RIAA look foolish! Keep Rock'n!

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Flinx
15th July 2001, 03:34
Thanks for the great post about using IRC. I had no idea that it was possible to get that much by doing so little.

The RIAA has spawned so many Napster look alikes such as AIMSTER and my favorite KAZAA at http://www.kazaa.com that the courts would serve everybody well by leaving Napster alone. No matter what the RIAA and the recording industry does pandora's box has been opened, and for every lawsuit there will be another peer to peer program that will allow those looking for cool MP3s to keep up the downloads.

There were 475,000 users sharing files on KAZAA tonight, and I had no problem finding what I was looking for. Using KAZAA is simple... even for the uninitiated.

Napster started the revolution in peer to peer music. There is no reason they should be punished when there are so many others that will never be shut down. I guess the only winners in the Napster tragedy will be the attorneys.

POWERSHAKER
15th July 2001, 16:36
Hi.

I totally agree. "Pandora's Box" has already been opened, and you are exactly right. Napster may have lost, but the people won't who wish to share mp3s. The simple fact that everyone has at least 100 MP3s on their computer begs the questions why those individuals can't share their files with each other. If we calculate half of 3,000,000 computer users owning 10 ripped off MP3s, we get 10 x 1,500,000 = 150,000,000 shared songs of course. Now, you know that most die hard mp3ers have plenty more than that. I know I do. Well, looks like those users can share files all day on mIRC and never worry about MP3s. And, if the government somehow found a way to shut down mIRC sharing of mp3s, would all file transferring being shut down and cease? I think even NASA would complain about that. Myself, personally, I have for more mp3s than 10 on my 40 gig hard drive. I don't feel comfortable saying how many I actually do have. I will say I have deleted about 6,000 mp3s over the course of this year. Mainly, I didn't see wish to be known as a file sharing service for Patsy Kline lovers. LOL I only keep what I like, mainly 80s hits, some Metal, some good 70s, and some good songs from the 90s I like. Pretty much everything, with the exception of country, rap and Patsy Kline. LOL However, I know where someone can get plenty of Patsy Kline if they desire. Contact me at powershaker@powershaker.com. LOL Anyway, mp3s will start to die out when technology surpassas them, and they begin to be considered like wav files. Also has anyone ever thought about the fact that mp3s are less quality that CD audio? Well, it's true. I've examined both formats, and mp3s are unnoticeably less accurate than CD format.

And so, what do I think about the future of mp3s? Well, I see a time in the future when artists will beging realizing the importance of this opportunity. Instead of having an agent and getting ripped off by him, the artist (Shania Twain for instance) can pull up her own website, and being offering her music in MP3 format on the web for download. You would then pay for access, log into Shania's site with a user name and password, and then go to downloading her music. I pay $1 a song. That way, you don't have to buy the entire album, and you get the songs you like. There ya go! Not a bad ideas at all, huh?


POWERSHAKER
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POWERSHAKER
15th July 2001, 16:44
Hi.

I totally agree. "Pandora's Box" has already been opened, and you are exactly right. Napster may have lost, but the people won't who wish to share mp3s. The simple fact that everyone has at least 100 MP3s on their computer begs the question why those individuals can't share their files with each other. If we calculate half of 3,000,000 computer users owning 10 ripped off MP3s, we get 10 x 1,500,000 = 150,000,000 shared songs of course. Now, you know that most die hard mp3ers have plenty more than that. I know I do. Well, looks like those users can share files all day on mIRC and never worry about MP3s. And, if the government somehow found a way to shut down mIRC sharing of mp3s, would all file transferring be shut down and cease? I think even NASA would complain about that. Myself, personally, I have for more mp3s than 10 on my 40 gig hard drive. I don't feel comfortable saying how many I actually do have. I will say I have deleted about 6,000 mp3s over the course of this year. Mainly, I didn't see wish to be known as a file sharing service for Patsy Kline lovers. LOL I only keep what I like, mainly 80s hits, some Metal, some good 70s, and some good songs from the 90s. Pretty much everything, with the exception of country, rap and Patsy Kline! LOL However, I know where someone can get plenty of Patsy Kline if they desire. Contact me at powershaker@powershaker.com. LOL Anyway, mp3s will start to die out when technology surpassas them and as they begin to be considered like wav files. Has anyone ever thought about the fact that mp3s are less quality that CD audio? Well, it's true. I've examined both formats, and mp3s are unnoticeably less accurate than CD format.

And so, what do I think about the future of mp3s? Well, I see a time in the future when artists will beging realizing the importance of this opportunity. Instead of having an agent and getting ripped off by him, the artist (Shania Twain for example) can pull up her own website, and begin offering her music in MP3 format on the web for download. In that way, her music is uploaded directly from the recording studio to our desktops for a small fee. You would pay for access, log into Shania's site with a user name and password, and then start downloading her music. Each user would pay $1 a song. That way, you don't have to buy the entire album, and you get the songs you like. There ya go! Not a bad ideas at all, huh?


POWERSHAKER
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POWERSHAKER
15th July 2001, 16:49
Hi.

I totally agree. "Pandora's Box" has already been opened, and you are exactly right. Napster may have lost, but the people won't who wish to share mp3s. The simple fact that everyone has at least 100 MP3s on their computer begs the question why those individuals can't share their files with each other. If we calculate half of 3,000,000 computer users owning 10 ripped off MP3s, we get 10 x 1,500,000 = 150,000,000 shared songs of course. Now, you know that most die hard mp3ers have plenty more than that. I know I do. Well, looks like those users can share files all day on mIRC and never worry about MP3s. And, if the government somehow found a way to shut down mIRC sharing of mp3s, would all file transferring be shut down and cease? I think even NASA would complain about that. Myself, personally, I have for more mp3s than 10 on my 40 gig hard drive. I don't feel comfortable saying how many I actually do have. I will say I have deleted about 6,000 mp3s over the course of this year. Mainly, I didn't see wish to be known as a file sharing service for Patsy Kline lovers. LOL I only keep what I like, mainly 80s hits, some Metal, some good 70s, and some good songs from the 90s. Pretty much everything, with the exception of country, rap and Patsy Kline! LOL However, I know where someone can get plenty of Patsy Kline if they desire. Contact me at powershaker@powershaker.com. LOL Anyway, mp3s will start to die out when technology surpassas them and as they begin to be considered like wav files. Has anyone ever thought about the fact that mp3s are less quality that CD audio? Well, it's true. I've examined both formats, and mp3s are unnoticeably less accurate than CD format.

And so, what do I think about the future of mp3s? Well, I see a time in the future when artists will beging realizing the importance of this opportunity. Instead of having an agent and getting ripped off by him, the artist (Shania Twain for example) can pull up her own website, and begin offering her music in MP3 format on the web for download. In that way, her music is uploaded directly from the recording studio to our desktops for a small fee. You would pay for access, log into Shania's site with a user name and password, and then start downloading her music. Each user would pay $1 a song. That way, you don't have to buy the entire album, and you get the songs you like. There ya go! Not a bad ideas at all, huh?


POWERSHAKER
powershaker@powershaker.com

WeblionX
15th July 2001, 16:53
I agree to what you all are saying. If they really wanted to stop file sharing they would have to kill off the internet and destroy every disk drive. It pretty much is a pointless battle. They'll never win. Besides, even if they did that, atleast 1/2 of the population would leave the country. They might as well destroy all computers while they're at it.

POWERSHAKER
15th July 2001, 17:54
Exactly! Music soothes the savage beast in us all. The RIAA will never conquer the beast! NEVER!!!!!!! OOOO RAHHHHHHHH!!!

Steve04
15th July 2001, 22:55
Shuting down Napster serves no purpose - period. Nobody uses it anymore. Even when the legitamate, legal version of Napster comes out, people aren't going to use it. Besides, there are plenty of MP3 file sharing services that are pretty much legally invinceible (i.e. Gnutella clients like Bearshare, Limewire, etc), and pretty easy to use. I use BearShare to get my MP3's now. It works great, and in some ways is superior to Napster.

iandood
16th July 2001, 02:04
I also agree about the shutting down of Napster. It will not affect too many people. I myself have switched to guotella also. The RIAA can sue whoever they want, but they will never win the battle when it comes to file sharing. They are wasting there time ! File Sharing is here to stay.

IaN DoOd

POWERSHAKER
16th July 2001, 03:07
When I was much younger, pretty much in the mid 80s, I remember when my step-Dad (the drunk that he was) got really excited one day. Why did he? Well, he finally bought all the hardware to pirate VHS tapes. Man, he thought he was techie guy from hell. Then he began to get fixated no pornography, so he always dropped a copy of masturabotry material at my bedroom door nearing the end of the 80s. Let's see, I was about seventeen then and still getting very hard from watching Baywatch. Sometimes, I wish those days were back again. Oh well. Anyway, MP3s are sort of the same way. We think it's such a great thing to gather our hoard of musical inspiration, yet not even looking at the larger picture. Mp3s will pass, just as VHS pirating did. Did anyone see the music industry go bankrupt because of VHS pirates? Me neither.

This gets to my second point. Greed. You see, all these guys complaining about kids pirating mp3s is even more imbecilic when you realize what kinds of houses these guys live in. Let's take the lawyers in this Napster suit for example. I bet those guys live in condominiums beachside all year long, and with topless chicks frolicking while clasping their most cherish margarita. And, what about the guys who work for the RIAA. I bet these guys have had three eyes and smoke a cuban cigar every day of their lives. They probably pirate mp3s themselves, because their "GREED" forces them not to spend any of "THEIR" money. The only rich dude I feel sorry for his Michael Jackson. I don't know if anyone's heard the news lately, but Michael has serious side affects from his bout with plastic surgery. The dude's nose is even falling off. Poor Michael. Did I say poor? Ahemmm. Nevermind! This dude has probably been laid so many times by so many fine women that if he died right now, he'd still have lived a life we could only dream of. And so, let his nose fall off for all I care.

Anyway, the same people who are complaining about kids ripping of mp3s (kids that for the large part have parents who can't afford to buy them a single CD) are the same people ripping other people off in government, politics and law. Even if you're not very religious, right now would be the time to bring up that "woah to the lawyers and prostitutes" bit phrase in the Holy Bible. I mean, let's get real. These guys are the scum of the earth. They go to church with a coat and tie so they can gather their clients for a money ride. Some of the others probably have a personalized music basement for transferring satellite tunes into mp3 automatically in their personal recording studio. So, I want to know? Are Mp3 kids criminals for divulging their love of music and maybe pulling a few over on America's Big Business bullshitters? Nope. I don't think so. Let's take music back and make it a people's game. There's too many dictatorial principles in the plastic Republic anyway. May mp3 live long and prosper, and may all of us fire up our WINAMP when it's time! Long live the True Republic!

How many historical figures can you name who have gone against society's wishes in hopes to free a nation or fight taxation without representation? I mean, if the Sons of Liberty had of done what they did back in the 1700s, those guys would have gone to jail a long time ago. Don't you think? I say somewhere along the line, people are going to get fed up, and God knows I'll be there for the Second or Fourth Revolt! Long live true Americans, and may the plastic Republic die where it stands! Good day folkes.



POWERSHAKER

Skweints
16th July 2001, 05:48
Supposedly, according to my step-dad, sales of CD's has -dropped- since the shutdown of Napster. If this is true, I'm happy to know that the ones who think they are "protecting" the economy are actually helping to destroy it.

FirstHawkeye
16th July 2001, 08:34
Just to clarify a couple of things, the sales of CDs in various areas is "overall" on the decline and has been for the past year. The crazy thing is this, the recording industry has stated that Napster would adversly affect the sales of CDs/tapes in and around the Universities where they have a large market in the 18-24 age demographic. The reality is that during the past year while Napster was running, sales of music in these areas actually rose. HMMM.

The points made previously about Pandora's box being opened are very acurate. I will never again use a service like Napster that becomes HARDER to use when I can find one that is easier such as Gnotella.

Skweints
16th July 2001, 17:10
It kinda makes sense how that would happen. I listen to mostly techno/trance music, and I have well over 3 gig of songs of that type of music. But out of all of them, I maybe only have about three sets of MP3's for a specific album (i.e. All the songs to BT's album Movement In Still Life). And even still, when if I burned those MP3's to a cd, there would still be tiny gaps and quality loss between songs. So I went out and bought the CD. Now I keep the CD in my car, but I can still listen to the songs in my house thanks to MP3. Napster was great for allowing me to search for "techno" and download random songs. I've found lots of great artists this way, (actually, most of them this way). I personally used Limewire, but never had any decent results, so now I use Kazaa... works excellent. Even allows you to download the same song from multiple people, maximizing your download speed.

POWERSHAKER
17th July 2001, 02:30
Well, I checked out Gnotella last night. This programs is a really good program. During our nerd games outside while waiting for Cisco class, a few techie buddies and I were discussing everything from burning CDs to imposing forces by ghostly apparitions on our hard drives. Then, we got on the subject of why Gnotella and other programs aren't being singled out in lawsuits yet. Well, simply put, Napster had the music flowing through their domain controller. If any of you use Windows NT for a server, then PDU, BDU, whatever... Anyway, it seems that the programs who have kept alive are only pointing you to someone's possession of a song. The music never flows through their server, but straight from the entity at large and you, the predator. Nice Discovery Channel view huh? Yeah, Gnotella gets five stars for me. I found thousands of each song I searched for. You guys really got me on this mp3 trip again, so I went and burnt another CD. I'm almost through the 'A' section. At the rate I'm going, I'll have all my music burnt (giving a CD burn each day of course) in 30 days. Now, you can go to estimating exactly how many songs I have. :) Well, anyway, I burnt the CD, and then I created my own personal JEWEL case jacket with HEIDI KLUM and a SNAKE on the cover. Man, she's hot! Up and to the left of her sweet head is my name, THE POWERSHAKER. Say it in your dreams ladies and gentleman. I'm going to be famous one day. LOL


THE POWERSHAKER a.k.a. "Annoying guy who writes letters all the time to everyone he ponders."

shadjr
19th July 2001, 03:22
G'day,

I admit that I never used Napster frequently, but when I did, it worked OK.
But now that RIAA have imposed restrictions on what can be shared, I've just switched to a service which can't be regulated. It's just the way things are, regulate something on the net, and the masses will find ways to get around it.