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BDA7DD
6th January 2002, 16:48
The RIAA says they're concerned with music piracy. They've demonstrated this concern by taking Napster to court, and they're gonna display this wrath soon enough with KaZaA in a matter of time. This piracy crackdown seems like a good idea, but I'm starting to question this whole ordeal... the way I'm starting to see things now, the RIAA isn't really at war with piracy. The real battle they're fighting isn't as simple... and it's definitely not as ethical either.

The truth of the matter is, the RIAA isn't really concerned about piracy. To tell you the truth, they probably couldn't give two shits about piracy. The way I see things, this whole "war on piracy" is just a charade, a diabolical blanket of conspiracy designed to conceal what... or who... they're really after.

You see, independant artists (a.k.a. "indies") now have a marketing tool available to them that they never had before. That tool is the Internet. Before the Internet, the indies had to get expensive agents to help them get into the music scene... someone who can work with the night clubs and the bars to get them some exposure... and eventually a deal with a big label. That was costly, time consuming, and more often than not the indies weren't even given the time of day from these agents, unless they had good connections (or a good body in some cases which I'm not gonna bother elaborating upon.)

Now the indies can get direct exposure to not just little night clubs and bars, but THE ENTIRE INTERNET. They can now advertize their own music, they can get their own audience all by themselves. The RIAA is pissed about this because now artists have the ability to market and eventually produce and sell their own music without the need of agents and record labels to get them through the door.

Most of you who listen to non-mainstream music know exactly how much good, unique, talented music is out there. Music that they never play on the radio or television. The reason it's not on mainstream media is because they're not with big corporate RIAA supported labels. MTV is nothing but an advertizing tool used by the RIAA to make the general public think that the cookie-cutter mainstream musicians are the "cool" and "in" things.

In the simplest way of analyzing the situation... the RIAA tells you what to listen to, the RIAA controls what you listen to, the RIAA decides what music is good and bad, the RIAA decides when certain styles of music are born, dead, and risen from the dead.

Now let's go a step further and look at the songs on those new RIAA supported, subscription based Internet music downloading services such as PressPlay... I dunno about you, but in my opinion, PressPlay should be called "Whatever the hell was on TRL last week: Internet Edition." It's basically the same crap you hear every day in a protected, proprietary digital audio format. You know why that is? I'll tell you why. Because the only music available on those services are those from multi-billion dollar record labels.

So... who's in agreement with me here? Who disagrees with these sentiments? If anyone wishes to comment on any of the above statements, this thread was created for that purpose. I've said my bit, now it's your turn to make yourself heard.

fish
6th January 2002, 17:11
I agree.

Most artists only get less than a dollar put of each album they sell. They are being cheated on by the label. If they use the internet to get their music out, they not only get free advertising, but they grow a fan base that would pay the money to go to concerts. IIRC, the artist gets a bigger percentage of a sale on a concert ticket than an album, so in the end it'll just make more money for the artist (a good thing).

DJ ANTarctic
15th January 2002, 04:16
royalty fee is so low these days. Now, with the internet, you can send ur music to everyone in the world. You get no money, but some people put low quality mp3s on their site, to encourage people to buy their music, not from your local music store, but off their very own site. the riaa know that this will be the death of them. la fin du riaa est finalement près de. good riddance.

DJ ANTarctic
15th January 2002, 04:18
and no im not french. i did that french sentence at BabelFish (http://babelfish.altavista.com).

josti
16th January 2002, 10:20
another one who agree's. (me, I mean... :)) the problem with the RIAA is that they say to go for the rights of the musicians, and thereby for the public (!) but they dont. they are mostly interested in the amount of money the big company's earn... right, 20 years ago 1 hour studio costed alot of money (if u wanted a good one, of course) so a musician needed the help of the music company, who believed in them, to pay for it. the music company used the money they earned with "lucky" musicians to help newbies get their chance for a good record. but... nowadays, you can, using by example an SB audigy or SB live, make your own (semi) proffesional recordings. the musiclabels are only needed for distribution. And they know that... Its a pitty for them, they will have to disapear within a few years, because they will become useless... The RIAA tries to prolongue their life... (in the mean time, they are making massive amounts of money, making mainstream music, and making music mainstream...)

another 2 cents :cool:

anyway, RIAA :down:

J

DJ ANTarctic
16th January 2002, 23:17
and when they get desperate, they will try and ban everything that can be used creatively: cd burners, tape recorders, vcrs, the internet, and computers, but not necessarily in that order.
cut from josti's post
...they are mostly interested in the amount of money the big company's earn...

well...not really. they are more interested in the amount of money they earn.

josti
17th January 2002, 15:44
Because (I thought?) the RIAA is an organisation of co-operating music labels (and other recording companies, movies etc) they dont earn money themselves, but represent their companies. am I wrong?
anyway, thats why I said they are only interested in the money (their) big companies earn. ok? ;) not that it matters anyway, they still are :down: basterds :D

DJ ANTarctic
19th January 2002, 23:30
:) ok then i stand corrected. sorry. i always thought they earned all the money. :)

josti
21st January 2002, 22:48
Originally posted by DJ ANTarctic
:) ok then i stand corrected. sorry. i always thought they earned all the money. :)

Whatever :D

DJ ANTarctic
22nd January 2002, 01:22
lol. ;) ;) nudge nudge

BDA7DD
30th March 2002, 08:31
Originally posted by DJ ANTarctic
and when they get desperate, they will try and ban everything that can be used creatively: cd burners, tape recorders, vcrs, the internet, and computers, but not necessarily in that order.

And we all know what they'll use to pursue that task, now don't we? The goddamn Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DCMA), that's what. I fucking hate the DCMA, it basically gives conglomerates and monopolies another tool to sue people for more inane reasons. It's an anti-consumer, extremely vague, five minute hack job of legislature.

I can just see the RIAA trying to get CD burners banned, because according to the DCMA, anything that could potentially be used to violate copyrights is illegal!

I guess we should start banning kitchen knives, pool cues and beer bottles because they could potentially be used to murder someone! Here's a better idea, let's start arresting everybody with fists so they don't beat each other up! :rolleyes:

fwgx
30th March 2002, 13:38
I say we ban pens (http://www.donttellthechildren.co.uk/cgi-bin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25)! Sign the petition!