Licence Prices for UK

[matt2kjones]

Oh well, i DID want to broadcast copyrighted music but looks like i cant no more since a licence in the UK for an internet radio station that plays copyrighted music is £1050 a year not including VAT

:( looks like my radio station has officially closed :( :( :(

[FesterHead]

Does it matter if you make your stream private?

[matt2kjones]

i think even if it is private you still have to have a licence as people are going to hear the stream which contains copyrighted music.

Why does it not explain on the shoutcast website about these licences?

If you live in the UK, this is the licence company for the UK, you can see the price for yourself, rip off if you ask me

http://www.prs.co.uk/broadcasters/
click radio
then click on internet on the left hand side menu

[Tom]

See: http://www.shoutcast.com/download/broadcast.phtml#copyright

Tom

[SYNERDATA]

Why anyone would want to feature commercial music
is a little beyond me, but there certainly is no
reason to close your station. There is far more,
far better non-commercial music to feature, wherein
the artists not only delight to be featured, but also
tend to come to be regular station listeners at those
stations which feature their artwork in such mutually
beneficial promotional processes.

Let the self professed "music industry" charge commercial
stations to make they and their artists wealthy and famous
at the ignorant commercial radio industry's expense.

Have no part in their competition eliminating practices,
and support the artists which the music industry does not
want the public to discover, the 98% of music producers
whom "the music industry" claims to represent, who in fact
they go to great lengths to keep out of "their" media
and distribution channels.

In the end, those who use the law as a weapon of war shall be convicted by it.

Cheers!
Gordon.

Synerdata Radio (http://synerdata.com)

[matt2kjones]

OK so can someone clarify this please:

If someone that DOES have copyrighted music, gives you permission to transmit it, you dont need a licence do you, because they give you permission?

and

if you transmit music that people have sent in on your website for it to get play, that they have made, you can play that right

also if you can, what happens if you start playing it on the radio station, then, they get it copyrighted, will you have to stop playing it then

Thanx so much for you help
Matt.

[SYNERDATA]

If a copyright holder gives you permission,
you may play their music.

If a copyright holder uploads music to your
website with the clear knowledge that it is
for the purpose of public performance, you can
perform that music.

The only point of potential issue may occure where
a copyright holder has given you permission, but then
later "sells" the copyright (read- signs with major label, etc),
at which point it might be said that the new copyright
holder may recind previously granted rights without
liability, or that you still retain valid permission
based upon the previous timing of the right grant.

While it is desirable to have permission signed in
analog writing, the express agreement between yourself
and the copyright holder (ie: emailed permission)
qualifies as a firm agreement between yourself and the
copyright holder.

Ideally, in concert with playing non-commercial music
which has been availed for free distribution and performance
by artists, one would endeavor to write to each artist,
personally, and securing formal permission from that artist,
and potential new listener, one will suffice a legal agreement.

Any issues that may arise at a leter time based upon changing
(copyright) conditions must nessesarily respect any and all
previous agreements made with you by the copyright holder.

By Law, all works are automatically copyrighted by their
creator as a default, without having to formalize it through
legal system processes, even though vast numbers of artists
do not concider their works, nor desire their works, to be
bound by such limitations.

I hope this helps.

Gordon.