neoJB

[matt_69]

damn...thats better than most of the new skins coming in today. bit big tho.

-matt

[dlinkwit27]

oh wow! You've only been here since Jan 03, that means you've never seen a lot of Adil's (or nekos) work. Man you've missed out!

[carlosp]

i know all of his works, they are really great. I was/is one of the most talented designer who have been here ever. But now he works for the factory and have no time to design any new skins for winamp. what a pitty.

[dlinkwit27]

Down with TSF! We want adil back! :p

[matt_69]

damn straight! i got to see some of his stuff, cause i only joined after about a month of reading here so i did see some of his stuff. its all really good.

-matt

[kiilu]

i thoughthe only had boom and moow??

[carlosp]

no, he designed much more skins than only those two.

[dlinkwit27]

Originally posted by carlosp
no, he designed much more skins than only those two.

I think moow and boom were the only ones that got coded tho. (and I have them both :p)

[carlosp]

no, there were some other skins started coding i guess. i have one or two more alphas from him. If a good coder is here who wants to finish his unfinished deisgns i can try to contac him and ask him if he gives his psds away to finish those skins even if they are very old school.

[matt_69]

old school or not they are better than most of the skins coming thru here at the moment. i may be able to help code them up now that i have some experience.

-matt

[kiilu]

i guess he's not as dedicated to skinning compared to other things - in a good way...

[matt_69]

he works for tsf as i read which means he IS dedicated to skinning. pity he doesn't come round here n e more :(

-matt

[DigiMike]

My question is he even allowed back on these boards? I know he and neko got into quite a few spats and were both off an on banned.

[Mr Jones]

Does it say banned under his name?

No, therefore he isn't banned.

He had plenty of warning from myself about his spats with neko, and that was all resolved a long time ago, no need to drag it back up from the dead.

Neko is banned however.

Adil = not banned
neko = banned

[Adil]

boo !

[Mr Jones]

Speak of the devil....

[Joshuatree]

That was all like 2 years ago. Ancient history IMHO.

[Adil]

Dont have time for hobby stuff, even my web page is dying with stupid domain name going up and down for god knows what reason.
here's the last thing I was trying to do for fun:

http://www.maroc.net/adil/temp/adesign-player.jpg

Trying to do some stuff in 3d too, but I cant show anything of it now.

[Adil]

I cant look at neoJB now without thinking it needs some major improvements but it's a good base. cya

[leechbite]

wooooow!!!!! :up: :up: :up:

[UUL]

Originally posted by leechbite
wooooow!!!!! :up: :up: :up:

[dlinkwit27]

ha ha! he is back! yea for e-mail notifications!

[carlosp]

thank god we have one of our best designers ever back. Even if he has no time for hobby stuff(i know what you mean dude :) )it is cool to have him here after that long time. Skins desgins and the way they are made change with the time like the mode. Your new skin looks pretty cool, as good as all you older works are. I would find it great if you would give your psds away and let them code, i mean we have boxter and K-Jofol here too, 100% old school Designs and concepts coded for now :D Maybe some new ideas+a good coder and we have a great new skin as good as our other old school skins are :D

c ya

[kingo'mountain]

too bad you started with sonique, winamp could look differently right from the alpha days :(

[ertmann|CPH]

bah, sonique died again, the two new developers got sacked months ago....

[mikm]

I still think that AOL should buy rights to (or at least to use) the Mantis engine (esp. now that Sonique died again), give Sonique users a reason to switch over, plus allow skins to be made that can make up for the limitations of the Winamp Modern engine (and the other way around).

[kiilu]

i agree...

[DigiMike]

It would be nice but i've worked with mantis for years. The only things i miss are blendmode support, reading images directly off a psd, and sonique's improved tweenfunctions. Other than that both do the same things. I also don't see why aol would fork out the money for mantis when they invested so much into developing their own xml language for winamp.


Oh and Adil...definately dig the new hottness! ;)

[Plague]

Originally posted by DigiMike
It would be nice but i've worked with mantis for years. The only things i miss are blendmode support, reading images directly off a psd, and sonique's improved tweenfunctions. Other than that both do the same things. I also don't see why aol would fork out the money for mantis when they invested so much into developing their own xml language for winamp.
There was a component for Winamp3 that could read directly from the psd's, but it never got finished, probably due to Winamp3 beeing rushed out of the door..
As for blendmodes, Winamp has it, only not in the standardframe, which is a bit sad. Again, that problem would've been fixed eventually in Winamp3, but again, it was rushed, and nothing happened.
Now, there's no way AOL would invest money on Mantis, as they don't even invest money in further development on Wasabi. They sacked some of the lead developers of Wasabi for gods sake, and now the rest of the Wasabi developers have left aswell, as has most of the Winamp developers..
I'm sad to say it, but Winamp is starting to go the way of Sonique.
Sure, miracles happen, but I'm personally not counting on it.


Edit:
Oh, and on topic, Adil sweeeet work on your newest creation! :)

[carlosp]

now plague siad what ive said about month ago. it is the begining of the end but which player will come next? wmp? :D

[Adil]

btw plague have a look at this: http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5092

[VAG]

Nice work Adil as always ;) :up: keep it up and be more active.

[matt_69]

Originally posted by Adil
btw plague have a look at this: http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5092

can anyone say rip? someone should go over there and tell them b4 that goes n e further.

-matt

[kiilu]

Originally posted by Plague
There was a component for Winamp3 that could read directly from the psd's, but it never got finished, probably due to Winamp3 beeing rushed out of the door..
As for blendmodes, Winamp has it, only not in the standardframe, which is a bit sad. Again, that problem would've been fixed eventually in Winamp3, but again, it was rushed, and nothing happened.
Now, there's no way AOL would invest money on Mantis, as they don't even invest money in further development on Wasabi. They sacked some of the lead developers of Wasabi for gods sake, and now the rest of the Wasabi developers have left aswell, as has most of the Winamp developers..
I'm sad to say it, but Winamp is starting to go the way of Sonique.
Sure, miracles happen, but I'm personally not counting on it.


Edit:
Oh, and on topic, Adil sweeeet work on your newest creation! :)

ARE YOU SERIOUS, plague? i really didn't expect this... i thought everything is going smoothly. you mean winamp has 0 developers now?

[Adil]

that's not what he said kiilu, learn to read dude ;)

matt_69, what's shocking me more is the feedback that "thing" got.

[Mr Jones]

No, he read it right, there are no Winamp developers left.

Justin left months ago, around the time 5.00 went live
Brennan & Aus got laid off.
Francis, Christophe and mig left sometime around 5.04

So that's pretty much the core developers of Winamp gone.

There are a couple of code type people left at Nullsoft, but they are more SHOUTCast orientated rather than Winamp GUI, there are one or two project dev managers left who put together the builds and what not, but again , not GUI developers.

Don't be holding your breath for any new major versions for a while, it's not called Winamp 5.05 The Final Edition (check the credits screen) for nothing you know.

[ampewin]

I am very happy with 5.05 so there's is no problem I guess that there won't be a new version any time soon (or ever). Besides I think that winamp2 upon which 5 is built can't offer anything more (eg unicode support) and the only way that functionality can be added is through plugins. Fortunately there are many plugin creators :)

[Adil]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
No, he read it right, there are no Winamp developers left.

Plague didnt say there were 0 dev people left, and neither did you so he read it wrong.

who gives a damn about it anyway, I was already happy with 2.9

[Adil]

Hey rhino, I got your PM about updating the skin to wa5 but your mailbox is full so I couldnt reply.
I think I have the psd's on an older computer, I'll let you know when I have them.

[The Rhino]

yah i got an email telling me it was full so i cleared it out a little bit, but yah just let me know if you still got the psds and ill try to get that skin updated

[kiilu]

well... any reasons why they left? maybe they an idea of a new kickas player? hmmmm... unlikely tho.