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theancient
13th July 2002, 20:19
WA3 has been installing a "Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)" plugin for some time now, but I can't find any mention of this format anywhere. What is it?

Naamloos
13th July 2002, 20:31
NSV + some sort of shoutcast = fun :)


i dunno if im correct, but it sounds like that for me

jarsonic
13th July 2002, 21:30
Originally posted by theancient
WA3 has been installing a "Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)" plugin for some time now, but I can't find any mention of this format anywhere. What is it?

It is magic.

- Jarsonic

will
13th July 2002, 22:22
Stop jarsonicing jarsonic! :p

Actually, it is magic. And its new, and you'll not find an awful lot of info about it now, but I'd imagine people will start hearing about it soon, but I dunno when, what or how.

Darkain
13th July 2002, 23:58
well, i forget the news sources, but AOL has already anounced that it has a new elite streaming video technology that is exclusive to them, and they are dropping real player. i bet that this is what AOL was talking about.

Ice
14th July 2002, 02:10
i've heard about it too. it had somthing to do with routers that could stream more efficiently. i think they were also testing it out on shoutcast streams for a while.

Darkain
14th July 2002, 02:25
AOL for the networking equipment... Time-Warner for the media (like TV shows).... and Nullsoft for the best media software in the world.

who agrees that this is going to be a good thing here?

Rocker
14th July 2002, 02:58
yay a thread on nsv.... i'm amazed it took this long for one to be made.

:)

Naamloos
14th July 2002, 09:10
Originally posted by Ice
i think they were also testing it out on shoutcast streams for a while.

Is that the conversion some shoutcast stations are taking? :)

will
14th July 2002, 15:22
Originally posted by N e m e s s i s
i believe NSV is nullsoft video. or am i wrong? Thats what i thought. Mainly because what I have gathered suggests that it is by no way limited to streaming.

cmisker
14th July 2002, 17:54
Is there any real info on this? I mean, websites or anything???

Gonzotek
14th July 2002, 18:35
A search for nsv Nullsoft (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=nsv+nullsoft&btnG=Google+Search) yields an unrelated link to zlib, this (http://www.1014.org/code/), which appears to be a Justin Frankel site, and an old, old NSDN beta news report (http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp3x/news/oldbetanews.jhtml). And some other amusingingly odd, but unrelated links.

-=Gonzotek=-

Plague
14th July 2002, 23:45
just a thought, maybe this is why the shoutcast server lister is removed at the moment?
maybe it's beeing upgraded with more features and some l33t nsv features..

as I said, it's just a thought..

-Plague

liquidmotion
16th July 2002, 16:06
Originally posted by Naamloos
NSV + some sort of shoutcast = fun :)


i dunno if im correct, but it sounds like that for me

you're damn right it sounds fun!

CraigF
18th July 2002, 10:19
everything everyone has said so far is wrong, so keep on guessing :)

Arvenius
18th July 2002, 10:36
well
basically nsv is a new container-format, just like avi
but i think justin added some new features to improve its streaming-quality... not just over shoutcast.. so dudes, do all you DVD-rips in nsv/divx instead of avi/divx, thx ;=)

frenchtouch
18th July 2002, 16:59
*.nsv file will also be able to specify how they were encoded I think. Kind of meta-data about video files, but I don't understand yet the real benefit above the meta-data currently used in AVI standard.

dj_rigo
2nd August 2002, 20:28
does the nsv format really exist or is the plugin pure fluff?

jarsonic
2nd August 2002, 21:40
I have a few movie clips in .nsv.

It is very real. :D

- Jarsonic

nothin2g
2nd August 2002, 22:57
http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/062802/index.asp
...great big deal?

LENZ.NET
3rd August 2002, 08:21
Nothing like a bit of Jarsonicing.

Rocker
3rd August 2002, 08:53
Originally posted by LENZ.NET
Nothing like a bit of Jarsonicing.

heh:D

dj_rigo
3rd August 2002, 18:03
Originally posted by nothin2g
http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/062802/index.asp
...great big deal?

wow:eek:

Wildrose-Wally
19th August 2002, 00:39
NSV is a new video format. It is designed to be easily streamed, support any audio and video codec, and be usable on nearly any platform. Currently NSV utilizes MP3 for audio and VP3 for video.

A number of years ago, I had 3 ABBA video cd's, and I took the dat files out and sold them. :D

With the proper plugins I could play those dat files on Winamp 2, although sometimes it was a bit buggy.

With the advent of WA3 I converted them to mpg files, they played good in WA3, no plug-ins required. (and NOT upside down. ;) )

Over the weekend I have converted them to Nullsoft Streaming Video, or nsv files, and I know why that will be the format of choice for streaming. The files are ONE THIRD the size of the mpg or dat files, without a loss in quality. I am very pleased with the results.

How would you like 3 video CD's on one disk? :)

http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv

lunarboy1
19th August 2002, 03:21
hmmm.. seems like this one is justin's baby :)

Vica
19th August 2002, 04:36
Let me see if I can do the math:

Ultravox + Winamp3 Technology = $$$ for AOL :)

Chapiel
19th August 2002, 05:34
The video section on winamp.com seems to use these. I agree looks good.

Chapiel
19th August 2002, 06:01
Just one question, how do you convert files to .nsv?

Thanks

Tomato Face
19th August 2002, 06:39
Use the NSV Encoding Tools which are on the above mentioned site! (http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/)

Cody
20th August 2002, 06:56
NSV is just a baby. Will AOL(c) do the right thing and pimp it? The Video side of things is vp3 from On2. Jump over and check out On2's vp5 codac way better then vp3 by a long shot.

will
20th August 2002, 08:09
As far as i can tell, there is nothing to stop you encoding an nsv file using vp5 for the video, and ogg for the sound. (You'll have to make the encoding and decoding plugins yourself, but soon other people might do that)

Cody
20th August 2002, 08:47
vp5 is not out right now to the public that I knoew of. If you can encode it it let me know the nsv part will be cake *grin* vp5 to encode you need a usb or other dongle

frenchtouch
20th August 2002, 14:16
Originally posted by Cody
NSV is just a baby. Will AOL(c) do the right thing and pimp it? The Video side of things is vp3 from On2. Jump over and check out On2's vp5 codac way better then vp3 by a long shot.
Don't believe marketing guys and website. Download and test the open source VP3 and VP5 and you'll difference is not that impressive...

Cody
20th August 2002, 19:44
vp5 kicks vp3's ASS in the low speed end of things. I said BS to vp5 for a long time till I got stuck on a slow speed link from hell and WOW it kicks ASS for "the little people" on 99% of aol video can now be sent to them all from in house devs. (cept for video side of things). Will it be paid for or will it be napster all over again with video? Will Aol(c) pimp winamp video to all of aol users? I bet winamp will blend nice now in any next gen aol "control" software. Easy to change for the "new" look...to the all new.....

IANAUN
16th May 2004, 06:50
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Inedible Bulk
16th May 2004, 07:49
Originally posted by IANAUN
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I do hope you get some kind of big trouble for bumping a thread OVER A YEAR OLD. WITH THE LETTER a. B4N.

sankt
16th May 2004, 12:49
I do hope you get some kind of big trouble for bumping a thread OVER A YEAR OLD. WITH THE LETTER a. B4N.Why are you on a crusade to belittle people ? Do you really have that much fun doing it?

Gonzotek
16th May 2004, 12:52
Inedible Bulk, chill out. If you think a post violates one of our forum rules, feel free to use the 'report this post' link. But the rest of IANAUN's posting history seems like honest tech support inquiries. We usually encourage people to search for and use old threads rather than starting new ones on the same subject. Perhaps he just hit the submit button at the wrong moment? An honest mistake doesn't get you banned, nor would the odd single post bump ...90% of our regular members would be guilty of that. Again, if you do think that something requires the attention of the moderators, either report the post or contact a mod via PM.