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QHOBBES
24th July 2002, 02:53
I had an idea for a new default skin mod, only winshade. i got a mock
up below. the only thing that wouldnt be all winshade is the playlist.
All I need is a coder. Anyone?

thepyr0x
24th July 2002, 04:18
how many base skin mods do we really need??

VooDoo`
24th July 2002, 08:21
i think thats a good idea, the funktions are better.
but to make it a little bit better you can change the grafics

CremoNe
24th July 2002, 08:50
wich are exactly the differences?

Plague
24th July 2002, 23:26
my suggestions for this:

1.main shade: Like the idea, but remove the ML button, not needed as much... if you want a third button, make it TH (thinger) instead.. and KEEP the minimize and "-" buttons, dont remove anything, just add..

2.eq shade: I like those buttons but if your're gonna make a skin mod, why not move the sliders closer together and place the buttons on the far right side..
and keep the default "-" button, just add the three others, dont remove anything.

3.pl shade: keep it like it is as default (or switch the text area to a real songticker like Nemessis did)

edit: this is a kewl small project I'm willing to code..

-Plague

QHOBBES
25th July 2002, 02:53
about the graphics, keep in mind, i rigged this up in paint.
and I don't need the "-" since its winshade only.

im off to cali tommorow tell wendseday so i might try to have a new
pic up later tonight.

QHOBBES
25th July 2002, 03:34
heres the diff:
replaced pl with min.; replaced ml with pl; added x-fade, shuffle,
repeat, and thinger; moved eq volume and ticker to left, eq buttons
to right.

Plague
25th July 2002, 03:37
well, I still think you should take back the "-", you still want to be able to switch to normal mode, dont you?

-Plague

QHOBBES
31st July 2002, 08:00
it's winshade ONLY, so no.

VooDoo`
31st July 2002, 09:06
Originally posted by QHOBBES
it's winshade ONLY, so no.

erm:( :down:
remove the eq and pl, and make there the "-" and a thingerbutton, because in #483 there were open a menu with eq, pl, ... if you click on the thinger.
you see, that you don't need the eq and pl button if you have the thinger.

QHOBBES
31st July 2002, 09:31
*man... I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU JUST SAID little kid, but you
specail, you reached out and you touched a brothers heart*

I suppose you want me to remove the play buttons to, because those are
in the menu too? *sigh* And if you would read your own damn post you
would understand that the - is not nessecary

VooDoo`
31st July 2002, 10:21
Originally posted by QHOBBES
*man... I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU JUST SAID little kid, but you
specail, you reached out and you touched a brothers heart*

I suppose you want me to remove the play buttons to, because those are
in the menu too? *sigh* And if you would read your own damn post you
would understand that the - is not nessecary

:mad:
it would be nice to have the "-" button back,
because of the place you must remove one or two buttons, therefore you could delete eq & pl, there these buttons are 2 clicks away.


and it was only a suggestion!! :mad: :mad: :igor:

Mr Jones
31st July 2002, 10:26
Why don't you both chill out, or you'll both find yourselves on the outside.

Consider this a warning.

VooDoo`
31st July 2002, 11:02
Originally posted by Mr Jones
Why don't you both chill out, or you'll both find yourselves on the outside.

Consider this a warning.

sorry, I have removed the bad words.http://www.clanintern.de/extern/smile/schande.gif
I would only help with suggestions!

QHOBBES
31st July 2002, 19:03
well the default skin still has eq and pl buttons, so they will stay.
here is new pic, still wanna code it Plague?

Gonzotek
31st July 2002, 19:16
Look, it needs some way to switch back to normal mode from shade, quickly. I use the shade switch button 10 or 20 times more often than shuffle and repeat (maybe 6 times more often than crossfade). So I propose a compromise by making the shade switch the right-click function on top of the minimize button. So: left-click: minimize, right-click: switch layout.

-=Gonzotek=-

QHOBBES
31st July 2002, 19:47
Okay I added a regular normal mode button, do i need it for the EQ?
Also I added the VS (Vis) button, so you can switch from No visulation,
Spectum, Oscilliscope, and AVS. is this a good or bad thing?

QHOBBES
31st July 2002, 19:54
for got the image.

Plague
31st July 2002, 20:24
don't think AVS would look so good in that tiny area..
And if AVS isn't used, you don't need any vis button, cos you can change the vis-mode by clicking the vis itself..

edit:
I just came to think of something..
it's possible to make some maki code to be able to click on the vis itself to change between osc, analyzer and avs too..
so you don't need that button at all, if you don't want too..
/edit

also, yea EQ also needs a "-" button..
make the PRESET button only PRE button, and then you can fit in the "-" button next to it..

yeah I could still code it...
it's mostly xml changes anyway..

-Plague

QHOBBES
1st August 2002, 02:54
485 presents some new problems, but ill try to address them tommorow.
heres the latest 483 look.

Caleb
1st August 2002, 17:11
hmm it looks too "busy"

DJGrenola
1st August 2002, 17:29
I use the shade switch button 10 or 20 times more often than shuffle and repeat (maybe 6 times more often than crossfade).


You can tell he's a coder, can't you ? =p

QHOBBES
2nd August 2002, 01:35
here is the newest screen, hopefully plague can begin coding soon.

Plague
2nd August 2002, 12:31
sure, send me the PSD when you're done and I'll start coding it..

-Plague

Joshuatree
2nd August 2002, 15:16
ooo..this should be interesting

QHOBBES
3rd August 2002, 04:32
is this what a PSD file is?

Joshuatree
3rd August 2002, 14:14
No, a psd would be the original photoshop file, with the layers and everything. Plauge, If you need I could probly take the picture posted here and make the .png's with an elements.xml

Plague
3rd August 2002, 15:03
no thats ok, that file is fine...
I just din't know how he built the buttons, but now when I see it's fine..

I'll start coding it soon.

-Plague

Joshuatree
3rd August 2002, 15:44
ok cool, less work for me

QHOBBES
3rd August 2002, 17:48
Photoshop! I would have to pay for that! All the grahpics
we're already done by Steve or I made them in Paint.
Here is a new screen shot of what it should look like in use with the
new buttons attached too. The Aut and Pre buttons look better and I
fixed some other thing. Nemensis could we use your scrolling song title
script in pl shade mode?

QHOBBES
3rd August 2002, 17:51
forgot image

Joshuatree
3rd August 2002, 17:55
ooooooooooo...aaaaahhhhhhhh

Plague
3rd August 2002, 19:16
QHOBBES: I've finished coding it...
Only thing left is to replace the textbar in pledit with the songticker..
Nemessis didn't do any script for it AFAIK, he just inserted a songticker there...

if you want that, I'll do it too..

-Plague

QHOBBES
3rd August 2002, 19:59
add it, then just attach the .wal, thanx

Plague
4th August 2002, 00:59
ok then..
first version, please download and tell me what you think..
comments regarding additions/changes/suggestions are welcome..

-Plague

QHOBBES
4th August 2002, 02:46
Everything works the way it should. Here is a new version with just
a new screenshot.png and skin.xml

QHOBBES
4th August 2002, 08:53
I was thinking of switching the minimize and un-winhade mode buttons
so they match up with the full mode. should i do this?

Joshuatree
4th August 2002, 12:41
Yeah, I think that would be a good idea. Skin works great.

Mr Jones
4th August 2002, 12:44
Tight work,my new default skin :up:

I'd love a "add files" button on the playlist, suppose I can live with keyboard shortcuts however :D

Good work guys.

QHOBBES
4th August 2002, 19:13
well here is a new mock up for next version, what do you think?

Joshuatree
4th August 2002, 19:37
Looks nice. :up:

Plague
4th August 2002, 20:38
Originally posted by QHOBBES
well here is a new mock up for next version, what do you think?
Hmmm, I don't really like that playlist thing...
as soon as I know how to call the playlist-status-button-functions (pheu:D) I can add those buttons directly to the winshade bar instead, or just a few of them if that's better...

-Plague

QHOBBES
8th August 2002, 02:39
works great for wa3 final, but Plague could you make the small update
of switching the min and shade buttons? the pl stuff can come later.

p.s. the new avs presets rocks!
the only thing i'd trade them for is some mag wheels, man those are
sweet (simpsons joke), sweet ass sweet, diabedic! (SNL joke)

Plague
8th August 2002, 02:57
i'll fix that soon...
right now, I have loads of work to do, but I'll see if I can just switch those two buttons later, shouldn't take long..

anyway, now I'm gonna go sleep..

-Plague

Plague
9th August 2002, 21:33
k, new version..
switched the winshade and minimize buttons..


-Plague

Chinpokomon
9th August 2002, 23:13
This is NOT an official modification to the unofficial modification of the default skin. :)

Ok, briefly, I wanted a system menu on the playlist... I've made a similar mod earlier, and I wish it would be included on that component in the future. Anyway, this is a hack of sorts because I still can't figure out how to move the ticker window, and so the control is drawn on top of that. The text is offset instead.

Anyway, if you want me to pull this version I will, but I'd also like you to consider this change for the future. Without an ability to scale or set the transparency level from a menu, this mode is indespinsable for me. If you could tell me how to move that window, even better. :)

QHOBBES
11th August 2002, 00:09
i actually had this idea planned for the next version, you just need
to change the graphic behind the button and i think move it up
1 pixel, maybe.
theres a new version up on deskmod
http://www.deskmod.com/core.mod?show=showskin&skin_id=13990

just small changes, screenshot.png and skin.xml, Chinpokomon edit that
one good enough and maybe it will be in the next offical release.

been kicking around the idea of having the stretch thing in pl
winshade make a come back and some sort of AVS winshade??? No way!
No way? (Sega joke)

QHOBBES
11th August 2002, 21:13
people on deskmod are telling me this skin dont work with wa3 final
but it works on my machine, whats the prob? can anyone confirm this?

QHOBBES
12th August 2002, 02:24
i think i figured out the problem, the skin is built around the 486
Default skin and probably just needs to be recomplied or some shit.
Anyways talked to Plague and he'll be busy all next week, so unless
there is a coder with some free time, expect no updates for a while.
if you want to take this up AOL/AIM me, MSN me, Yahoo! me or PM me
in the forums, or just reply to this, do not send email! Heres a new
mock up for next version, dont know if AVS winshade is possible, might
have to use riegions or something, which are borked for the moment.

QHOBBES
17th August 2002, 01:37
anyone wanna code this? new image.

Chinpokomon
17th August 2002, 07:26
I'd love to get involved with coding some skins. Unfortunately my spare time is few and far between right now. I just finished moving out of a house I'd been in two years, and I'm about to start school in a couple of weeks. AND, I'm still working with a deadline on Wed.

I've worked on several projects that use XML, and XSLTs to transform that data, and looking through the documentation for WA3, that part of it seems pretty logical. Coding the scripts looks intersting too, and I'd love to add MAKI to my belt of "languages"...

If anyone can get to this skin faster, by all means, go ahead, otherwise, I'd like to give it a stab in a few weeks.

QHOBBES
31st August 2002, 00:14
As my 1000th post I'm sending out an S.O.S. to coders help me finish
up this b!tch so it really works with 488. i've sent out a few PMs to
people but hopefully this will get more responses. any suggestions
or coders or whatever please respond. the above image will probably
be the final, but i have more ideas up my sleave.

curlymop
31st August 2002, 08:53
whats a skinmod and an add-on, for the skins for winamp3 and how do u get them and what do they do

QHOBBES
31st August 2002, 19:18
this is a skinmod, because it its not a new skin, its just a mod
of the default one. an add-on is a script.