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StillWater 12th October 2002 07:09

cbuttons still seem far too 'plastic and obvious' for the skin. And I wonder why you changed the text bar. I found the previous, glowing one pretty cool.

dlinkwit27 12th October 2002 11:45

closed...no, not the thread...
 
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Originally posted by amp-phibian

if its closed versus open id go with the closed

agreed.

not in santiago 12th October 2002 18:34

Nooooooo! No red flower!

I much prefer db's idea of having the flower fit in with the elemental theme. If contrast is a concern, how about a white calla lilly? I also agree the Cbuttons don't fit with the rest of the design. Maybe you could make them similar to the volume and balance buttons and have them flow into each other . . . like water! :D (Of course, you'd have to be careful with the labeling, so users don't get too confused with it.)

The horizontal lines at the top of the the main are nice, but perhaps a bit too distracting. You might want to try fading them a bit. I'd also like to see them continue under the grey shape to the min/max area on the right.

I like the current text bar, but I think you need to replace the black with some green or light blue, just to make it blend better.

I'm still concerned about the future playlist. I really think it's getting too dark by the bottom of the eq.

xenosomething 12th October 2002 21:36

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yup, heres a little of the PL(the bar on top is little annoying)

TOTALLY ignore the flower, a new flower is on its way thanks to not in santiago.

i just looked at some of the previous suggestions and ill try to incorperate them on next update

the cbuttons are still wrong huh? i cant seem to make it look like ice!(wait do u mean the cbuttons or the back of the cbuttons??)
the silver circles havent even been touched yet so ignore them

the flower will hopefully be a white to red gradient with advantage to white..

btw, if i raise the dpi of my scans will that help keep the detail when i make it smaller? the current flower lost tons of small details and i hope i can prevent that from happening again...

dlinkwit27 12th October 2002 22:14

Red Red Ted
 
I want the red rose! Itz sooooo much cooler! Red rose, red rose, red rose!!! (sry, i like the red, what can i say)

Mr_Tough_Guy 12th October 2002 22:25

Damn that new flower looks good, best one so far :up: :up:

e-raser 13th October 2002 00:06

yesss, very nice new flower

xenosomething 13th October 2002 00:13

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:weird: i spent alot of time looking at some flowers and i cant make up my mind...so i just went a little overboard

dlinkwit27 13th October 2002 01:59

ya know...
 
I almost like that outragious flower more than the red one. IDK tho, its a bit large...

xenosomething 13th October 2002 06:05

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look how bad i am at eq bars:(

e-raser 13th October 2002 06:45

the eq bars work, if anyhting its the cbuttons that stand out from the rest of the skin, i'd say play with them abit more

xenosomething 13th October 2002 06:53

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Originally posted by e-raser
if anyhting its the cbuttons that stand out from the rest of the skin, i'd say play with them abit more
ok, does everyone mean those silver bubble things or the shape behind that?? if its the bubbles ive already planned on changing them....but the BG of that looks fine to me

skinme! 13th October 2002 08:43

Dude, this skin is soo beautiful. My suggestions for the cbuttons would be to lose the rectangular backdrop and incorporate them more into the bubbles from the volume. And onMouseDown, they could burst. Shame this ain't a Winamp3 skin, or you could have tiny bubbles floating to the top. LOL.

Mr_Tough_Guy 13th October 2002 09:12

The EQ bars look alright, but ould use a bit of improvement, I don't really like the square shape of them, maybe you could round the edges of, maybe something similar to the slider in the playlist

The new flower looks great, it's a bit over the top, but it works pretty well with the rest of the skin.

As for the cbuttons, I think both the silver buttons and the rectangular backdrop don't really fit the rest of the skin

StillWater 13th October 2002 10:22

I like the ice thing that is happening with the cbuttons, but I think it still needs a fair bit of changing. Perhaps make it glisten, or give it an irregular, half-melted shape, or have a few droplets of water coming off the ice. And the silver buttons of course need a good renovation. The flower looks ok, but - to me - it doesn't have much to do with the theme of water. I would think of something flowing, elegant, soft, subtle, with soft curves (like water) - something like a lily, perhaps. But you must be truly sick of flower suggestions by now...

xenosomething 13th October 2002 17:11

if anyone can give me an idea for eq bars, that would be great....

the only way im gonna bea ble to get non rectangle bars, is if i "clean" the EQ BG....im thinking about blurring it so i can can have some non-square shapes(i think im going to try mr_tough_guy's idea)

the flower looks more and more wrong everytime i look at it(and im not sick of flower suggestions :))..

i think if i change the silver bubble thingy then the ice rectangle thing will be more fitting

xenosomething 13th October 2002 18:31

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see, the bg isnt all that bad

e-raser 13th October 2002 18:37

much better, i like, i like!

dekt 13th October 2002 20:27

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Originally posted by Jellby
I believe you set a mask as bottom or top layer (one of them)
Just for reference I've tried to show how masking works in PS (I know you were talking about that a few pages ago but I've only just got to this thread!).

You add a mask to the (top) layer and, by painting black in it, hide part of the image in that layer. Painting back over it with white would reveal what's in the layer again. This way you can mess about till you get it spot on without fear of erasing any of your image (and not being able to undo). it's also handy if you decide you don't want the mask at all - just bin it and the layer is still there the same as it was.

The thing to watch is whether you've selected the mask or the layer to avoid painting over something by accident (easy to undo though). Notice how the layer's icon (next to the eye) changes from a circle for the mask to a paintbrush for the layer. Hopefully the attachment makes sense but just say if you need something clarified.

Nice skin too! :) I think I liked it more when it had a subtler 'sub-aqua' vibe but it's still original and looks like it'll be popular.

xenosomething 14th October 2002 19:08

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i may have rushed the PL a bit, ill probably redo the buttons..

and ill make some changes to the eq bars

StillWater 14th October 2002 19:14

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Originally posted by xenosomething
and ill make some changes to the eq bars
Please do ;)

Actually, they look pretty good, especially the preamp bar - but the coarse texture doesn't seem to match the skin. Actually, you could make them like containers that fill up with water as you drag the slider up a la the shuffle.

e-raser 14th October 2002 19:18

are you going to have a test wsz for us to play with:D

xenosomething 14th October 2002 20:03

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Originally posted by e-raser
are you going to have a test wsz for us to play with:D
ill try for today or tomarrow,but it wont have eq animation and pl stacks(and maybe not even volume and balance animation yet)

im not too sure about containers for eq bars since my BG wont allow rounded edges..they would have to be rectangular

StillWater 15th October 2002 01:35

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Originally posted by xenosomething
im not too sure about containers for eq bars since my BG wont allow rounded edges..they would have to be rectangular
well, I was kind of thinking to keep the bars pretty much as they are now. You would just make a few adjustments to make them seem more like 3d containers, and to make them look like they contain liquid within them. By the way, I really like the volume/balance/open. I think that the cbuttons still need work though (both the background and foreground, but especially the foreground - ie. the labels)

xenosomething 15th October 2002 02:41

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Originally posted by ¤db¤
I think that the cbuttons still need work though (both the background and foreground, but especially the foreground - ie. the labels)
hmm...the cbuttons is only one rasterized layer...the little symbols(like the stop square)are holes in the ice that i created using the eraser.so its not a BG and a FG, but just a FG i suppose..(but that wont stop me from improving it)

as for the eq bars and the shuffle--it seems that when the water has a texture layer, the rise of the water looks very unnatural since PS doesnt randomize the texture on reshape....so....does anyone know any solution to this? i may have use the airbrush if i cant workaround it..

i didnt do to much work on it today, so ill try and make up for it on next update

_Blackdog_ 15th October 2002 03:39

i haven't looked at this thread since the first couple ss were posted... wow, what an improvement. this is looking quite good:up:

sHoTTiE 15th October 2002 04:31

maybe its just me, but it just doesnt "flow"... it looks good seperately, but when all the windows come together, some things just seem out of place, but it mite just be me :igor:

dlinkwit27 15th October 2002 04:53

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Originally posted by sHoTTiE
..it just doesnt "flow"...
I can see that too. Something about the EQ -> PL transition really messes something up, but i understand you are working on that as well as the c-buttons, an di am looking forward to your updates.

xenosomething 15th October 2002 05:34

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Originally posted by DLiNKWiT27


Something about the EQ -> PL transition really messes something up.

i purposely did that...i want to be able to move the PL away from under the eq and still have it look good...maybe i can try to make it "flow" better, but with winamp 2.x's limitaions it wont be like the Main-->EQ(because winamp uses the same piece for the top left and top right of the PL)

...also i may have to put a "floating box" above the main bubble for the vis...it looks horrible with any combinations of colors

simon snowflake 15th October 2002 07:02

this is really über-sexy, i simply adore this thing!!!

xenosomething 15th October 2002 07:37

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i just threw this together...the pic doesnt look too bad,but it still has absolutely no animation for buttons yet..ill touch up what i put together so far, for a hyper-alpha wsz tomarrow...

the "floatin vis box" is something i had to put in until i make the bubble bg 1 color without disturbing the rest of the skin...

the time display look familiar??? i ripped it from my red mspaint skin i never completed(of course ill change it later)

*dont complain just yet about the eq bars*

PL will probably not be in the alpha wsz

Mr_Tough_Guy 15th October 2002 10:32

looking good, though I'm still not sure about that rectangle backdrop behind the cbuttons, it does look better with the new cbuttons but it still doesn't look completly right IMO.
Also I'm hoping you're gonna change the numbers, cause they don't really fit in

binary hero 15th October 2002 11:00

i love it. I don't care what everyone else says, It is fantastic.

StillWater 15th October 2002 11:23

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Originally posted by Mr_Tough_Guy
Also I'm hoping you're gonna change the numbers, cause they don't really fit in
I just noticed them. They don't fit in at all. Looks like they were running late to get onto one of your mspaint skins and, in their haste, accidentally walked onto the wrong skin.

dlinkwit27 15th October 2002 17:38

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Originally posted by xenosomething


i purposely did that...i want to be able to move the PL away from under the eq and still have it look good...maybe i can try to make it "flow" better, but with winamp 2.x's limitaions it wont be like the Main-->EQ(because winamp uses the same piece for the top left and top right of the PL)

...also i may have to put a "floating box" above the main bubble for the vis...it looks horrible with any combinations of colors

ahhh! good thinking. I also have the PL next to (right side) of the main. I didn't even think to take that into account. The preview is just plain sexy. Now for a .wsz!

xenosomething 15th October 2002 20:54

i dont have anywhere to put the beta wsz.....it wont zip under 230K

any help would be nice

Jellby 15th October 2002 21:41

Publish it in deviantart, under designs/skins in development

xenosomething 15th October 2002 22:26

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/796338

skinme! 15th October 2002 23:01

Looking funky... unlike my inbox... damned spanish viruses.

I think you need to redo numbers . bmp and plstack labels.

xenosomething 16th October 2002 00:19

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well not like this .....i promise ill make it look good when the skins done


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