Dear Mr. Moderator
 

I have been using the Internet for twelve years now, and I have to say that yours was the most insecure, knee-jerk, thoughtless reply to anything I have posted on the net in that time.

Its disappointing that this (low) level of maturity comes from a "moderator."

The "Winamp3 Discussion" area seems to be a logical place to post my opinion about Winamp3, since that was my goal: a discussion about Winamp3. My thoughts were not a mindless flame, and your response did precisely nothing to answer them.

I couldn't care LESS about the features of Winamp2 OR 3, except those I mentioned in my post. If there are, in fact, more features in the pipeline for Winamp3, then the situation can only get worse, from my perspective. It will continue to get bigger, slower, and use more resources. If I wanted that, I'd just use Windows Media Player.

Winamp2 will be my favorite because its SMALL. Is that going to be a feature of Winamp3? I didn't think so.

Terry

Re: Dear Mr. Moderator
 

Wow, I was amazed at the ignorance in your last post but this one takes the cake! Seriously, go learn about program development and then come back and see if your still complaining. Or if you dont wanna do that, just read around before you open your trap and you will get the answers.

i would like too see that post....

[edit] btw cybaix is not a moderater....a moderater would be the guy with a moderater below his name....senior member != moderater.

ah yes and one more thing, one of the features is removing bugs.....[/edit]

...the reply from Mr. Jones, with (moderator) under his name
 

This was in reply to an earlier post of mine, which he subsequently closed.

Please, before you start whining read the Winamp3 FAQ.


Why doesn't Winamp3 do XYZ like Winamp2 did?
Winamp3 is a complete re-write form Winamp2.X. Therefore all features form Winamp 2.X would need to be re-implemented in Winamp3. Due to time limitations on Nullsoft a lot of the non-critical features from Winamp 2.X were left out of the original release. These features will be returning over time. They may not be in the next release, but most, if not all, of Winamp 2.X's features are coming to Winamp3.

To the end user, what's different?
- New interface
- Media Library
- Video playback
- Fully customizable
- Free-form skins
- Cross-fading
- Alpha Transparency (Windows 2000/XP)
- etc....

Why is Winamp3 so different than Winamp 2.X?
Winamp is a complete re-write from Winamp2. The platform that Winamp2 was built on is old and out of date and no longer meets the needs of its developers. So they created an entirely new system (see Wasabi below). Now, while to the average user, Winamp3 may look just like a few GUI updates, there is a lot more than that! Winamp3's component system (known as plug-ins in Winamp2) has been completely re-worked. This makes everything in Winamp3 components running on top of Wasabi. This way Winamp3 can be stripped of unwanted features or developers can make components to add completely new or different functionality to Winamp3.

Where is all this new functionality?
Nullsoft does not have the time nor resources to fully show all the possibilities on the original release of Winamp3. Though as third party development picks up, look to see features like media organization systems, CD ripping systems, CD burning systems, encode in different formats, and so on. These can be made available to users by simple component downloads.

How come Winamp3 is missing features from Winamp 2.X?
Well, as said before, Winamp3 is a complete re-write from Winamp 2.X. Therefore not all features from Winamp 2.X can make the first release. Due to limited resources and time Nullsoft included the critical features to make Winamp3 what it is. Expect more and more feature additions in each release of Winamp3. If your favorite feature from Winamp 2.X is missing, please be patient, it is most likely in the pipeline.

Does WA3 overwrite/replace WA2 ?
No. WA 2.x is still under development. Updates can be found here
If all you want is an MP3 Player, then stick with WA2.
v2.81 has just been released (note, 2.81 released after 3.0)

Will my old plug-ins still work?
Nope. Unfortunately, to totally change the component interface, backwards compatibility had to be scrapped. But fear not, developers are already making plug-ins to run Winamp 2.X plug-ins. For Input download WA2Input . General and DSP plug-ins can be run with Winamp3 Plug-in Manager. The Winamp 2.X API can be emulated with RM-X and Winamp3 Plug-in Manager. Visualizations can be run with the Classic Visualization Component (not yet available).

Will my Winamp 2.XX skins still work?
Winamp3 has limited Winamp2 skin support. Though there are Winamp2 Skin converts that work better then Winamp3. Try this link


AND MOST IMPORTANT?
Does anyone want to hear me cry because a free program is not no my Standards?
No. If you don't like Winamp3 stick with Winamp2. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. Winamp 2.X is still being updated. Nobody around here really gives a rats-ass if you want to cry about Winamp3.

What if I still want to bitch and moan?
Then go here

Thank you; please come again when you have something useful to say. But until then:

*whacked*



(PS All these annoying people "bitching and moaning" are your CUSTOMERS. If you don't like customers and their input, don't publish software)

Customer's pay, users use. So they are not customers. Moderators have to deal with pissed off people all day, everyday. They don't get jack $hit for doing it. But regardless, this post addressed to Mr. Jones should have been sent via a PM. His reply was the boilerplate reply to ALL Winamp3 bitching threads, and is intended to direct people who are interested in educating themselves about Winamp3 to the appropriate resources. People who aren't interested in educating themselves aren't going to be helped in any way by anything a moderator says.

Winamp3 Discussion is for WINAMP3 DISCUSSION, I agree. Not discussion about moderator's appropriate/inappropriate responses. Therefore this thread is closed.

-=Gonzotek=-

I suppose thats because you hadn't read the FAQ before posting.

When Sawg says "around here" he means around the Winamp3 forums. All the moderators here are volunteers, we'll listen to you if you have something useful to say, but if you're the tenth person today to simply whine about winamp3 then don't expect a particularly courteous response.

We volunteer because we want to help Winamp - any time spent responding to people simply compaining for the sake of it is time lost reporting bugs, or responding to legitimate support posts.

To summarise: If you have something useful and constructive to say, say it politely - if you don't, go here

And if you still have a problem with peoples' posts, I direct you towards the "Report this post to a moderator" link, or (politely) PM me and I'll see what I can do myself.

NOTE: The moderator-under-name thing doesn't apply to myself, willfisher and gonzotek - we just moderate the winamp3 forums, we don't have full moderator access, and therefore don't have a modetator title.