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rm' 8th November 2002 17:31

"You and me baby are nothing but mammals" Part Two
 
What's your stance on beastiality? If the basis of legitimate sexual relations is consent, couldn't it be argued that the animal is just as an enthusiastic participant as the human?

Should we abide by the "Whatever rocks your boat" ideal when it comes to interspecies love?

pixiefied 8th November 2002 17:37

screwing animals is just plain sick.men are doing it and so are woman.there should be some other punishment other than jail time.:mad:


that poor chicken the guy raped and then on the news i heard about a guy and his rottweiler.those people should be shot.

Cameron221 8th November 2002 17:41

Yeah its really sickening but whatever floats their boat. As long as it is to a certain degree, like if the animal had a mutual relationship with the owner. But assraping a horse they find on the road should be treated like raping a human.

sandb937 8th November 2002 17:56

:-(*) and thats all i got to say about thathttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/wuerg015.gif

Naamloos 8th November 2002 18:12

Truly sick.

rm' 8th November 2002 18:14

But why?

I personally am having a lot of trouble reconciling my feelings on the topic with any sort of reasoning. Same deal with other forms of sexual deviancy. I know that it's wrong, but I can't rationalize this feeling.

Without the ability to explain why it's wrong, I'm inclined to support the view that it shouldn't be criminalized.

pixiefied 8th November 2002 18:16

ok,rm..what would you do if you found out that while you were away everday at school,work,..that your neighbor you have known for a long time was fucking your cat?

rm' 8th November 2002 18:18

That's a different story. The cat is my property. If he were porking his cat, and the cat consented (i.e. didn't yowl away, and run everytime my neighbour got near it), I don't think anything should be done.

J. Burnaway 8th November 2002 20:29

It's wrong - the animal can't give informed consent. Using the "well, the cat didn't run away" logic would also allow you to justify having sex with babies and mentally handicapped nine-year-olds.

Magic_Midget 8th November 2002 20:37

rm...you come up with the messed up topics to discuss...even though you know the majority of the winampers are gonna be disgusted....Its sick end of story:p

eleet-2k2 8th November 2002 21:03

Well, from a Christian POV, the basis for sex is a loving marriage, thus leaving anything other than humans out of the question.

If you wish to discard religion, then how can you prove the animals are consenting to sex, if [most] only live and act out of instinct?

Orgone_Man 8th November 2002 21:13

Quote:

Originally posted by rm'
But why?

I personally am having a lot of trouble reconciling my feelings on the topic with any sort of reasoning. Same deal with other forms of sexual deviancy. I know that it's wrong, but I can't rationalize this feeling.

Without the ability to explain why it's wrong, I'm inclined to support the view that it shouldn't be criminalized.

I must assume that, like most other ideas, reason has it's limits and grey areas.

rm' 8th November 2002 22:13

Quote:

Originally posted by J. Burnaway
It's wrong - the animal can't give informed consent. Using the "well, the cat didn't run away" logic would also allow you to justify having sex with babies and mentally handicapped nine-year-olds.
Mentally handicapped nine-year-olds don't hump back though. It's a well established fact that in the presence of a horny woman (who's started the process of lubrication), a male dog will be attracted by the scent, and stuff it's nose in her crotch. Unless it's physically restrained, it will actually start licking her.

Orgone Man, I think so too. That may be a better solution then my previous stance. Beastiality just feels so wrong that I'd hate to see the state giving it official recognition as acceptable behaviour.

fwgx 8th November 2002 22:22

I think rm' has a deeeeep dark secret and this his way of trying to justify it ;). You're one sick, errr, puppy rm' :p

Would you like it if someone was fucking your cat, cats are pretty small remember and human todgers, well mine at least, aren't ;). I don't think you would. I don't know if the animals enjoy it, as I have only ever seen 0.00003 secs of beastiality before I vomited, but I say it's pretty much like raping the animal. After all animals, as far as we know, aren't able to think rationally or too logically like a consenting adult would about sexual relations. I think the previous comment about having sex with a retarded 9 year old or even 30 year old, not capeable of making decisions for themselves stands. Yes even the 30 year old, age makes no differance when someone is mentally handicapped, over their ability to make decisions like this, instinct and uncontrollable reactions get in the way. Much the same as your dog that humps back.

will 8th November 2002 22:29

http://www.dolphinsex.org/
the obligatory.

Orgone_Man 9th November 2002 00:13

Quote:

Originally posted by will
http://www.dolphinsex.org/
the obligatory.

YES!

I, for one, stand up and give a toast to this most wonderful website. I hope to see it many more times in this forum.

Long live www.dolphinsex.org !

Sandman2012 9th November 2002 00:15

The name removed from that site was rm's.

rm' 9th November 2002 00:18

I don't think anyone's told Sandman yet that dog's are man's best friend.

Sandman2012 9th November 2002 00:22

Quote:

Originally posted by rm'
I don't think anyone's told Sandman yet that dog's are man's best friend.
Try not to be so western-civ-centric, my friend. In some cultures dog's are the main course!

InvisableMan 9th November 2002 00:39

Quote:

Originally posted by J. Burnaway
[...]the animal can't give informed consent.

not true. every animal has its own way of doing that.

i have no problem with someone doing this as long as the animal gives consent (which doesn't have to be informed since sex is hormone deiven anyways)...

but i do think it a little odd for a man to skewer something an 8'th of his size.... :igor:

meaisl8again 9th November 2002 03:46

I just read a study that suggested in the case of monkeys’, sex was learned. They split 2 babies away from other monkeys (a female and male) and then when it came time for them to mate, they didn't know how. Apparently, the older monkeys demonstrate and teach hands on the art of sex. Food for thought I suppose.

That said, I think bestiality is disgusting. I equate it with the molestation of children. Since the animals are arguably not as smart as children, the notion of having sex with something that can't express opinion in a comprehending manner is repulsive. This all comes down to a personal opinion, though. To the people that like bestiality, they wouldn't have a problem with it. The same goes for people that like child pornography, or people who have weird fetishes.

But once again, this is a personal opinion.

Lots of Love,
Mea

hgnis 9th November 2002 07:42

Quote:

Originally posted by InvisableMan
but i do think it a little odd for a man to skewer something an 8'th of his size.... :igor:
LMAO!!!!
Haven't heard a phrase like that in ages...:up:
ok real man - you have issues...:eek: :confused: :)

Some1 9th November 2002 07:53

Quote:

What's your stance on beastiality?
It's quite a sick practice...however, if no permanent harm is done to the animal (i.e. the animal is large enough to not be traumatized by the act, so no cats/small dogs/etc...horses, camels, and llamas would all be okay though), then I guess I could tolerate the idea, so long as I don't have to ever be exposed to it.

hgnis 9th November 2002 08:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Some1


It's quite a sick practice...however, if no permanent harm is done to the animal (i.e. the animal is large enough to not be traumatized by the act, so no cats/small dogs/etc...horses, camels, and llamas would all be okay though), then I guess I could tolerate the idea, so long as I don't have to ever be exposed to it.

If I did not know the shit that gets posted here I would not be LMMFAO at that....So I guess you are suggesting someone really whip the llama's ass??
:D

Some1 9th November 2002 08:10

Quote:

So I guess you are suggesting someone really whip the llama's ass??
Sure, but ONLY in a way that doesn't harm the llama, and ONLY if they commit the act in a location private enough such that I never have to worry about bearing witness to it.

Caleb 9th November 2002 09:09

On a positive note, you can't get AIDS from animals.. so no need for that condom LOL

pixiefied, baby, face it, you can't resist it. (*cough* me *cough*)
:D

randman 9th November 2002 09:21

Re: "You and me baby are nothing but mammals" Part Two
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rm'
What's your stance on beastiality? If the basis of legitimate sexual relations is consent, couldn't it be argued that the animal is just as an enthusiastic participant as the human?

Should we abide by the "Whatever rocks your boat" ideal when it comes to interspecies love?

I think you should "expand your mind". Find out for yourself if you are that curious. Have sex with the animal of your choice, then come back and let us know what YOU think. :igor:

The idea of beastiality sickens me. I don't need to justify that. The part of my brain that tells me right from wrong tells me it's just wrong. You know, the same part of your brain that tells you driving your Volkswagen Beetle 120 mph into a solid concrete wall is not a good idea. :rolleyes:

rm' 9th November 2002 10:09

Yes, you know, I agree with you. The problem is I use this same reasoning to justify to myself my dislike for homosexual relations. Why, then, does society look down on me for that?

Caleb 9th November 2002 10:15

Well, why don't you ask Hitler.. oh wait..

fwgx 9th November 2002 10:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Caleb
pixiefied, baby, face it, you can't resist it. (*cough* me *cough*)
:D

Me?

I think I can resist :hang:

Caleb 9th November 2002 10:26

no you can't....

it is forbidden...

You don't want to.... look in my eyes.. you don't want to...

Unless you're a man.. then you want to.. and you will!

Some1 9th November 2002 10:31

Quote:

The problem is I use this same reasoning to justify to myself my dislike for homosexual relations. Why, then, does society look down on me for that?
By "dislike" do you mean personal disdain for, or do you mean you use it as personal justification to look down on gays and rant about how what they do is "evil, immoral, and unnatural," as they are two entirely different things...I don't think society would hold any grudges against you for choosing to personally refrain from homosexual relations, but if you go and start ranting about how NOBODY should be alloed to have gay sex, then society has every right to give you hell for it. Basically live and let live, what seems wrong to you isn't necessarily wrong for other people.

Caleb 9th November 2002 10:43

Does having sex with yourself count as gay sex?

Some1 9th November 2002 10:51

Obviously not, unless you do it while looking at/fantasizing about gay porn.

Caleb 9th November 2002 11:13

great.:blah:

Some1 9th November 2002 11:26

Isn't it?

hgnis 9th November 2002 13:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Caleb
On a positive note, you can't get AIDS from animals.. so no need for that condom LOL
Actually you can from some species of monkeys...similar genetic structues to humans I guess....go figure
I sincerely hope you DID remember to use one... :D

Widdykats 9th November 2002 15:53

Quote:

Originally posted by hgnis


Actually you can from some species of monkeys...similar genetic structues to humans I guess....go figure
I sincerely hope you DID remember to use one... :D

That's right! When you are having sex with little "Zippy"
always wear a condom..I have to throw up now...

ElChevelle 9th November 2002 15:55

Women, cats, who gives a shit as long as Chev gets some pussy.

Word to the wise: Have them bastards declawed first or "Scrote"'s gonna pay the price:igor:

Orgone_Man 9th November 2002 19:00

Quote:

Originally posted by rm'
Yes, you know, I agree with you. The problem is I use this same reasoning to justify to myself my dislike for homosexual relations. Why, then, does society look down on me for that?
Maybe every seperate instance should have it's own "reason". I think what you are doing here is saying that because one thing is reasonable, then this thing should be too, right? You could probably rationalize anything while going about it like this. Probably the best way is to create a new string of reasoning for each and every instance that applies.

[edit]Maybe this would be impossible to do since all knowledge and information comes from past experience.... or does it?[/edit]


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