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Joel 12th August 2003 15:17

Looking for a good firewall...
 
Since I got infected with "the pc must shutdown..."
I'm running on WinME, until I reformat my HD...
so...what firewall do you recommend....?

randman 12th August 2003 15:25

ZoneAlarm

Atmo 12th August 2003 15:50

I used to be a big fan of zone alarm. It was easy to setup and use, and was fairly secure. These days, while it's still easy to use, imho it isnt as secure. Zone labs are a bit slow to issue updates, and due to it's success people are taking the time to find more exploits. So, while it's still better than nothing, i dont believe it's the best solution.

These days i use and reccomend Kerio personal firewall. While it's not quite as easy to setup as zone alarm, it works much better once it is setup. Things like having the option of being asked before another pc can access your shared folders from another pc on the network is quite handy (especially at lans).

Still, i only use kerio to filter outgoing connections. I use an old pc (running ipcop with snort) as a dedicated firewall to monitor all incoming connections. Total overkill for a home dialup connection, but it works brilliantly. :)

Merlin 12th August 2003 16:03

Zootm recommended Agnitum Outpost firewall. It, like Kerio, isn't as easy to set up as ZA, but once it's running it's great. It even includes a plugin to block adverts, which works well.

gt55x 12th August 2003 18:44

McAfee firewall is very good.....

Nortan is also very good.

Microsoft xp comes with a free firewall.

SSJ4 Gogitta 12th August 2003 19:07

I use @Guard.


Zero problems with it what-so-ever.

I would also recomend Look'n'Stop (sometimes called LnS).

fwgx 12th August 2003 19:35

Sygate Personal Firewall PRO is excellent.

WomanOfHeart 12th August 2003 19:37

I'm using Norton2002. I'm going to try the 2004beta version. I haven't had any problems with it.

Starbucks 12th August 2003 19:45

Quote:

McAfee firewall is very good.....

Nortan is also very good.
You've been missing out:http://www.software-antivirus.com/index.htmlJust click on one of the software titles to read the reviews. And from what they say, Norton and McAfee don't detect all worms and trojans.

eleet-2k2 12th August 2003 23:59

I prefer hardware firewalls. I used to like Zone Alarm and BlackICE but BlackICE sucks now and Xone Alarm isnt as secure as atmo said.

griffinn 13th August 2003 05:26

In my 5 years of experience in corporate tech support, I've observed that the likelihood of a user's computer getting infected has nothing to do with the type of firewall installed or even the firewall's presence/absence. It actually varies inversely with the general computing aptitude of the user.

You'd think that with the advent of Internet worms that automatically traverse the net to find victims, this pattern would change. But it doesn't. Even the Blaster worm seems to infect the stupid users' computers first.

InvisableMan 13th August 2003 05:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Sawg

Plus a lot of firewalls verge on paranoiaware. Where everything is an attack. They try to make it seem like someone is always trying to hack you, just to keep sales of their product up.

actual rejected feature from mac os alpha build 115071.1.51 (10.5):

a option that automatically blocks ANYTHING coming from a microsoft server, because "servers running microsoft(c) windows(c) server software are not as secure as other servers, and you are more prone to being infected by computer viruses and worms."



:igor:

taylormemer 13th August 2003 07:00

I use Zone Alram, no probs. So yer Zone Alarm

Viper007Bond 13th August 2003 07:45

Get a router. Spendy, but that way you have a hardware firewall. :)

whiteflip 13th August 2003 07:46

Macafee and Norton both suck balls
Zonealarm Pro or if You are poor / cheap Zonealarm

j0ck3 13th August 2003 09:30

ZonaAlarm is the best one.

fwgx 13th August 2003 10:32

Quote:

Originally posted by InvisableMan
actual rejected feature from mac os alpha build 115071.1.51 (10.5):

a option that automatically blocks ANYTHING coming from a microsoft server, because "servers running microsoft(c) windows(c) server software are not as secure as other servers, and you are more prone to being infected by computer viruses and worms."



:igor:

Sounds like a good idea to me :D.

Mr_007 13th August 2003 11:07

Diffrently firewall created!
if you like should give one of this firewalls!

ÇhäötïÇLüñätïÇ 13th August 2003 12:16

I never liked Zone Alarm... to much xtra crap on it... I use Tiny Personal Firewall... Small lil app.. all I need.

Merlin 13th August 2003 13:59

Kerio 2.1.5 is available free from here (English version). If that doesn't work, the download page is here.

ZoneAlarm is not good. In fact, i think it really sucks. I'm pretty sure an attacker once got past a recently updated ZA, so I showed it the door. And what is it with that interface? Like Sawg said, it gets in the way for most of us.

james 13th August 2003 15:15

I love Kerio, I find the remote admin feature very useful. I've locked down the PC my mum and sister use, so if they want to use a new application that requires internet access I don't have to be there or give them the password to enable it :) It does have the odd quirk though but it's better than ZA :D TinyPF was OK but lacked options IIRC.

RTSounds 13th August 2003 19:47

Norton
 
I use Norman Personal Firewall 1.3 since it's an option to include from my ISP and only costs me around 3$/month. I use ZoneAlarm on my parents' and my girlfriend's computer since they are stingy.

Norman is my choice because it's easy to configurate with lots of help if you need it. ZoneAlarm (free version) is enough but I don't trust the amount on the list of blocked connections made. Like another user wrote above in the thread; perhaps some softwares lies in their's statistics files to make people pay for upgrades?

gt55x 13th August 2003 21:10

yeah but im double protected with AVG antivirus along with the firewall.

And i have the firewall changed to "high" not Normal.

Ps: If u want to use Zonealarm use the PRO version i know some that got through the "free' one.

I tryed a lot of free firewalls and i did not like the Basic look.

Im a very paranoid person.;) :weird:

ojms 19th August 2003 11:13

iptables > *

www.netfilter.org

th3matr1x 19th August 2003 23:41

Just get a rooter with a hardware firewall and 2 other firewalls :)
Zonealarm pro is good, and norton is also good.
And 2 is better then one :)
cya

whiteflip 23rd August 2003 10:48

with all that running i am suprised you are able to connect to the web.

th3matr1x 23rd August 2003 14:16

I can connect to the internet with no prblems, And i noticed that the 2 firewalls is a good choice, since sometimes one firwall passes some informations and the other one does not.
Of course I had to configure them so they work together, but that's not a real deal.

Psythik 23rd August 2003 19:46

I use both McAfee and Zonealarm; never hurts to run multiple firewalls :up: Plus it's great having at least one working when the other fails. Going to add Kerio to the list of firewalls.

Atmo 23rd August 2003 19:58

Running more than one software firewall is a waste of time.

Hardware firewall/router/dedicated box running smoothwall or ipcop etc. filtering incoming connections, and a good personal firewall on each pc to monitor outgoing connections is more than enough.

gt55x 23rd August 2003 22:26

A dedicated hacker ill get into youre system no matter what.....
a firewall only helps.

Then again unless ur a bank or m$ a firewall is ok.

psyfive 24th August 2003 03:44

I use norton internet security 2003 (I am also behind a router but it doesn't have the built in firewall)

corkhead0 24th August 2003 06:54

Re: Looking for a good firewall...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lobo Lunar
Since I got infected with "the pc must shutdown..."
I'm running on WinME, until I reformat my HD...
so...what firewall do you recommend....?

You mean Blaster? It doesn't affect ME. You're running something else. Take your pick :P

-NT4
-2000
-XP
-2003

th3matr1x 24th August 2003 09:02

Re: Looking for a good firewall...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lobo Lunar
Since I got infected with "the pc must shutdown..."
I'm running on WinME, until I reformat my HD...
so...what firewall do you recommend....?

You shoulden't have reformatted your hd, you should have just deleted the executable file, The virus that you got is not that bad, It just kills some window services which windows needs to shuttdown your pc.
next time try first to find out which programms are new , and first kill them and delete it from the net.

A good firwall is zone alarm pro, but it should also be good configurated, close the ports you don't need.

whiteflip 25th August 2003 08:07

if you run more than one firewall you lose system resources. i dont even run a virus scan cuz it slows me down too much.

corkhead0 26th August 2003 00:14

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
if you run more than one firewall you lose system resources. i dont even run a virus scan cuz it slows me down too much.
As opposed to when you have to revert to backups because some script kiddie's worm just wipped your hard drive?

Buy a bit more RAM if you're worried about resources, it's not that expensive. Or you could start up msconfig and shut off a lot of unneeded services.

Atmo 26th August 2003 04:58

I've compiled a quick list of security/firewall/privacy testers.

http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/index.php
https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm
http://www.auditmypc.com/
http://www.portscanpro.com/scan/port...=all&scan=scan

They're not perfect, and even if you pass all the tests with flying colors your system could still be compromised by someone who knows what they're doing, but they will show you how well you've locked down your system/network.

whiteflip 26th August 2003 08:43

Quote:

Originally posted by corkhead0
As opposed to when you have to revert to backups because some script kiddie's worm just wipped your hard drive?

Buy a bit more RAM if you're worried about resources, it's not that expensive. Or you could start up msconfig and shut off a lot of unneeded services.

They are all shut off. Plus I went through the actuall services list and turned off all the auto crap ones. Like messenger among others. I have never gotten a virus or worm and my one firewall works fine.


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