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anabeces 26th September 2003 02:14

Downloading mp3's - help please !!!
 
1)I want to RE-download my whole mp3 collection in a higher sound
quality eg.320 kbps

2)Are there any programs (or addons/plugins to programs such as Kazaa
Lite) that allow for filtering searches. So when I do a search for
a song, only the high quality ones show.

3)What factors make for high quality mp3's ??? other than kbps

Thankyou in advance.


PS: I just bought the NOMAD Jukebox Zen NX, it is awesome.

DJHotIce 26th September 2003 02:19

why 320kbs? 190 is industry standard and plus 320 is umm disk space hoggers, another thing is Kazaa will get your butt sued by the RIAA (more or less)

Gonzotek 26th September 2003 02:22

We don't encourage downloading copyrighted material. 320 is overkill for all but a very few types of audio, although I'd disagree that 192 is the "industry standard". It's just another arbitrary number that a certain number of people use. I personally prefer -alt-presset standard when I encode my own music. If you're going to download copyright free material, try shareaza.

Namelessv1 26th September 2003 02:22

1) 320 kbps isn't really necessary, 128 kbps to 192 kbps is already good enough sound quality.

2) There's already a filter option built into kazaa lite under "more search options>"

3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.

idynkydnk 26th September 2003 02:23

192 is enough

and I just went to that nomad site and it looks really cool

I want one

godoncrack 26th September 2003 02:24

Nice one there Gonzotek
You been smokin my shit again?

DJHotIce 26th September 2003 02:24

lol, its in your head. Like what was that bum bum bum!

Gonzotek 26th September 2003 02:26

I can clearly and reliably tell the difference between 128 and 160. I can not so often tell the difference between 160 and 192. --aps yields higher bitrates than that, because I hope to not be able to tell the difference between the real cd and the mp3 when I eventually get a good music server + hifi system to listen to it all on.

anabeces 26th September 2003 02:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Gonzotek
We don't encourage downloading copyrighted material. 320 is overkill for all but a very few types of audio, although I'd disagree that 192 is the "industry standard". It's just another arbitrary number that a certain number of people use. I personally prefer -alt-presset standard when I encode my own music. If you're going to download copyright free material, try shareaza.
sorry, I never realized that.

anabeces 26th September 2003 02:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawg4Life2K1
1) 320 kbps isn't really necessary, 128 kbps to 192 kbps is already good enough sound quality.

2) There's already a filter option built into kazaa lite under "more search options>"

3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.

ty for your help, it worked.
forgive my stupidity.

godoncrack 26th September 2003 02:54

I was refering to the renoucement of illegal downloading while in the same post refering dink here to a site that has a program that lets you do just that.
Oxymoron

Gonzotek 26th September 2003 03:12

The ability of a useful tool to be used for something unlawful doesn't negate the tool's usefulness.

There's a lot of useful non-illegal things about shareaza. Esp. when you compare it to the profiteering kazaa and some other p2p vendors. Shareaza doesn't have a pro version nor does it serve ads or paid-for links. It supports bittorrent, which is mainly marketed at legal, (semi)official, file distribution, and also makes a decent general http download manager.

[edit]And non-copyrighted and "copyleft"ed material does exist, btw ;)[/edit]

-=Gonzotek=-

godoncrack 26th September 2003 03:17

fancy gift wrapping for one more way for me to be able to steal someone elses product
but I take the high road
I only use p2p to download porn

anabeces 26th September 2003 03:24

how come the same song, all at 320 vary soomuch in size?
what causes this?

deathazre 26th September 2003 03:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawg4Life2K1

3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.

you lie.
there's a major difference between 128 and 160. 192 is "near CD quality" but I can occasionally tell a difference between 192 and 256

I'll stick with ogg at 192.

dlichterman 26th September 2003 03:44

hey how good does ogg play? I always wondered if it really made any big difference and also what size the files are.
--Dan

deathazre 26th September 2003 03:57

128 ogg is something between 192 and 256 mp3

Gonzotek 26th September 2003 12:28

If you're using specific bitrates in ogg, unless you're broadcasting you're doing it wrong. Ogg uses variable bitrate quality settings, you pick the quality level that sounds good for your needs, and it uses as many (few) bits as it needs to make it sound right. It isn't as effiecent in cbr mode.

-=Gonzotek=-

Merlin 26th September 2003 12:37

160k, LAME encoder in CDex. If there is a better-sounding MP3, I haven't heard it. You get very, very good quality sound with rich vocals (tracks like "At Least We Tried" by Moby, for example, sound excellent) without paying too high a price in terms of disk space.

If I was really bothered about sound quality, I wouldn't use MP3 at all.

SSJ4 Gogitta 26th September 2003 12:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Merlin
160k, LAME encoder in CDex. If there is a better-sounding MP3, I haven't heard it. You get very, very good quality sound with rich vocals (tracks like "At Least We Tried" by Moby, for example, sound excellent) without paying too high a price in terms of disk space.

If I was really bothered about sound quality, I wouldn't use MP3 at all.

Now re-rip that track and re-encode to q5 ogg vorbis.

Merlin 26th September 2003 12:50

No. If I did that and decided it was better, I'd have to re-rip all my CD's. For the tiniest of audible differences. Fuck that. :)

Like I said, if anything bothered me at that bitrate, I might as well use lossless.

tiger84 26th September 2003 19:07

Quote:

Originally posted by DJHotIce
another thing is Kazaa will get your butt sued by the RIAA (more or less)
Your chances of being sued by the RIAA while using Kazaa are about the same as being struck by lightning. Something like 30 million people are on the FastTrack network at any given time. The RIAA is only sueing a couple thousand at most. And if you're smart about it, you reduce your risk even more. For instance, don't leave Kazaa on all the time, and limit the number of files you share to somewhere under 100.

anabeces 26th September 2003 20:38

Quote:

Originally posted by tiger84
Your chances of being sued by the RIAA while using Kazaa are about the same as being struck by lightning. Something like 30 million people are on the FastTrack network at any given time. The RIAA is only sueing a couple thousand at most. And if you're smart about it, you reduce your risk even more. For instance, don't leave Kazaa on all the time, and limit the number of files you share to somewhere under 100.
They can only sue Americans...lolz


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