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. - .... .- -. .... 19th January 2004 12:26

Microsoft Corporation vs MikeRoweSoft
 
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/news...4-7077040C8071

Quote:

Mike Rowe, 17, is up against Microsoft, which wants to shut down his Web site Mikerowesoft.com.

Through its law firm in Canada, Microsoft has offered him $10 US -- what Rowe paid last August to register the domain.

He replied asking for some financial assistance for losing the name and site. He told the lawyers how much work he put into the business and said the domain name was worth at least $10,000.
Considering his name is Mike Rowe, he is perfectly entitled to the domain. Perhaps if his name was *not* Mike Rowe, then there might be a case to answer for cyber-squatting etc...

xzxzzx 19th January 2004 13:37

DAMN YOU! I was just about to post this.
[edit] But yeah. Total bullshit. [/edit]

s1138 19th January 2004 13:43

DAMNIT! i was too....

GarbagePoe 19th January 2004 14:12

I think it's totally wrong. I mean, it's not the guy's fault that it happens to be his name.

Smeggle 19th January 2004 14:26

yeah but he is using the fact that if he puts the name together and adds the soft it siunds like microsoft ...may not agree myself and wouldn't see a problem but I'd say he is intending the similarity ..I mean why use the soft? his name iss mike rowe not mike rowe soft ...so it is his intention of use rather than his actual name that they are complaining on.

Trying to pull a swinger if you ask me...

~ :)

Mike H. 19th January 2004 15:25

I think he is entitled to the domain. His business is not hurting Microsoft in any way and nobody could confuse Microsoft and MikeRoweSoft.

LollipopLustKil 19th January 2004 15:33

Except people trying to explain it with speech impediments.

Mike H. 19th January 2004 17:01

I meant the companies themselves, not the pronunciation of their names. A visitor to mikerowesoft.com would not be there because he/she is looking for a Microsoft product.

J_Bloggs 19th January 2004 21:50

His names Mike Rowe, he will likely one day develop software and is currently into web design. Mike Rowe, Software, he has every right to MikeRoweSoft. If it's his bussness, then isn't MikeRoweSoft already a legal entity on it's own?

killswitch1968 20th January 2004 04:25

I would just like to say that this is purely ridiculous regardless of WHAT you believe you in.

More importantly I don't like looking an idiot when ppl put BREAKING NEWS in the GENERAL discussion thread. *grumbles*:cry:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=165689

Too-DAMN-Much 20th January 2004 07:00

Quote:

Originally posted by J_Bloggs
His names Mike Rowe, he will likely one day develop software and is currently into web design. Mike Rowe, Software, he has every right to MikeRoweSoft. If it's his bussness, then isn't MikeRoweSoft already a legal entity on it's own?

good point, didn't think copyrights were phoenetic like that can you say : hukt on kopyrites?

zootm 20th January 2004 10:41

i think they are. same reason you can't make a logo identical to the coke one, and just change the name... or - more appropriately - can't start selling "Koka Kola"...

s1138 20th January 2004 14:50

id think it would be alittle different from that zootm.

its the guys name!

InvisableMan 20th January 2004 15:00

it's an intentional play on words. he knew very well microsoft would come after him if he did it, and he probably did it intentionally to see if he could milk ms for it.

microsoft wouldnt have gone after him if it wasnt a valid case. they have the best lawyers in the world.

Starbucks 20th January 2004 16:14

hmm...someone's going to hell and it sure isn't Mike!!

d0rk 20th January 2004 18:58

We discussed this subject this afternoon in History Class when we started talking about current news and I brought this up. Basically I agree with MS on this. The kid could have just created the site Mike Rowe and left it at that. There is no need for him to have MikeRoweSoft. Indeed he might create software that would then make it then Mike Rowe's Software. If he made the domain www.mikerowe.com and I was looking for software Mike Rowe has created, I would not type in www.mikerowesoft.com to look for it. It was done on purpose and I believe he has no right to that domain.

[edit]
Has anyone looked at his site? He has already set up a pay pal account to get funds to help 'pay' for his lawyer. I personally think that he made such a big deal out of it to get his name out
[/edit]

horse-fly 20th January 2004 19:49

the company is mi-cro... the guy's name is mike rowe... they are pronounced differently

Too-DAMN-Much 21st January 2004 00:06

either way, it seems pretty obvious that guy didn't register that domain name with the intentions of keeping it (rather making a quick buck selling MS a worthless domain name (prolly expecting to lose it and gain a decent settlement/compensation ) )
but even still it should remain his (doubt it will), but he should be allowed to keep it, now if he makes his own linux distribution and sells it there it becomes quite a lot more questionable

xzxzzx 21st January 2004 06:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Horse-Fly
the company is mi-cro... the guy's name is mike rowe... they are pronounced differently
Just barely. Say it fast and it's exactly the same.

"Mic row soft"

Anyway, since mikerowesoft.com is actually a site for buisness work, Microsoft doesn't really have a case. It's the guy's name, and his buisness is associated with the site "mikerowsoft.com". I don't think he's trying to make a quick buck, anyway.

Futile 22nd January 2004 02:11

I like it how microsoft offered him $10!

dlichterman 22nd January 2004 04:49

I dont think you can copyright phonetics.and its the guys name for gods sake.

Xerxes 22nd January 2004 09:07

Microsoft has a right to protect it's intellectual property - which includes the pronunciation of their name.

If Mike Rowe Soft was the big monopoly and Microsoft was the competitor, likewise, Mike Rowe could take action against Micro.

Mike Rowe has many many alternatives - Rowe Soft, Mike Soft, or any other name. Bill Gates didn't name his company Billgatesoft, after all.

Too-DAMN-Much 22nd January 2004 10:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Xerxes


If Mike Rowe Soft was the big monopoly and Microsoft was the competitor, likewise, Mike Rowe could take action against Micro.

SINCE microsoft IS the big monopoly and there was such a big mess about it....


.....why let them grow even bigger by assimilating every domain name that sounds like the company's name???

ertmann|CPH 22nd January 2004 10:29

I just read in my newspaper today, that Microsoft has stepped down in this case. Stating "that we take our brand very serious, but in this case we might have taken it a bit too serious" (translated from english to danish and back again)

/edit: here is the reuters article



- Stefan

Too-DAMN-Much 22nd January 2004 11:17

"We appreciate that Mike Rowe is a young entrepreneur who came up with a creative domain name, so we're currently in the process of resolving this matter in a way that will be fair to him and satisfy our obligations under trademark law," Desler said.

Rowe is demanding $10,000 from Microsoft to change the site's name.

kinda hard to tell doesn't quite look like they've stepped down exactly, but realised they don't rule the world cuz of the size of their bank accounts



BTW, knew it! knew it!! knew it!!! looks like mike rowe was planning on loosin the site for a big fat paycheck

Reaper 24th January 2004 22:51

Seems that Microsoft has decided to settle with him... :o

ryan 24th January 2004 23:14

All that because his name is Mike Rowe.. Now if Some software monopoly's name would sound like mine :)

xzxzzx 24th January 2004 23:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Too-DAMN-Much
[B]BTW, knew it! knew it!! knew it!!! looks like mike rowe was planning on loosin the site for a big fat paycheck
That doesn't prove anything. If someone asked to buy your house that you didn't want to sell, and told them they could have it for $1,000,000, that wouldn't prove you bought it to make $1,000,000.

horse-fly 25th January 2004 04:42

Quote:

Originally posted by xzxzzx
That doesn't prove anything. If someone asked to buy your house that you didn't want to sell, and told them they could have it for $1,000,000, that wouldn't prove you bought it to make $1,000,000.
if you really didn't want to sell it, then you wouldn't make the offer, would you?

Nimelennar 25th January 2004 04:44

I would, as a joke. I would have said, "Sure, I'll trade you. You get http://www.mikerowesoft.com, I get http://www.microsoft.com. Deal?"

J_Bloggs 25th January 2004 05:58

Personnaly, in my head, I keep pronouncing it 'Mike Raw Soft', because of the e in rowe.

xzxzzx 25th January 2004 23:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Horse-Fly
if you really didn't want to sell it, then you wouldn't make the offer, would you?
I'd sell a lot of things for $1,000,000 that I wouldn't sell normally. Take, for instance, one of my hard drives. If someone asked to buy it, I'd give them a price far higher than retail value.

horse-fly 26th January 2004 02:26

yes, but you said in your example a house, which would normally go for around 1 million dollars, but would you also sell the rights to all of the stuff you own on those harddrives, all those man hours on OS custumization, wallpapers, website projects, etc?

xzxzzx 26th January 2004 03:49

Yeah, and if you're selling the domain name, you're also selling the advertising and name. If "mikerowsoft.com" has been printed on all the buisness cards you've been giving out for the last year, you probably don't want to give it up, do you? But you probably would if the price was high enough.

DuaneJeffers 26th January 2004 08:06

I still think he wanted to screw MS. I mean why couldn't he have gotten MikeRoweDesigns.com or the like? Now, his new address it MikeRoweForums.com and it is just a new page/forums not anything to do with his business. And the timing of when he purchased the Domain. He was asking for it.

-Duane

ryan 26th January 2004 08:12

If I was him, I'd buy mikerowesoft.net, org, us, and any other domainas he can. He'll make a fortune :)

Xerxes 26th January 2004 08:18

Quote:

"All along I just wanted to prove a point that the small guy can win against the giant corporations," Rowe wrote on his his Web site earlier this week.
The article clearly states his intentions.

ertmann|CPH 6th February 2004 04:06

Ho ho ho, had my laugh of the day, when i rememered this story, and decided to check out on the outcome...


well, you gotta apriciate the irony, mikerowesoft has now partnered up with Mandrake Linux....

hehe

well i think it's funny

ertmann|CPH 6th February 2004 04:15

NEXT CASE PLEASE
 
well, your honor, next case is....

Google versus Booble


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