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MidnightViper88 29th January 2004 22:29

LS1 vs. Evo VIII: Oh how the mighty have fallen
 
Came aross an interesting topic off the C&D forums, linking to the LS1 forums, about a long-previous Camaro Z28 owner won over by the Mitubishi Lancer Evo VIII after a short test drive...General car enthusiasts may see the equals in both cars, but I'm sure the V8 guys will have a grumble towards the guy...This'll entertain any car guys here... :D

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=455392

sgtfuzzbubble011 29th January 2004 23:31

To each their own, but I'll say that the maintenance cost that guy is going to have a little bit later on will probably more than take up for the better gas milage...

And this part isn't a comparison of the vehicles, but more of my experience in them: Last year, I drove a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Nothing special, but it had a high-flow intake, big exhaust, and a 5-speed. I was test driving it for a friend of mine that was thinking about buying it. The car rode nice, was actually quite fun to drive, had short throws between the gears, and had tight steering. I suggested to my friend that she might like the car and should seriously consider buying it. (She didn't because of financial reasons that arose, though.) But after that test drive, I got back in my S10 and remembered just how much I love it. That little car made my S10 feel big, bulky, and bad-handling... but that's how I like it. Even though that Eclipse could beat my truck through the slalom, my truck could stomp it on the dragstrip. I like the rumble and grunt of a big American engine over the high-winding shrill of a small Japanese engine any day. It's a personal preference thing, anyways. And if I had to choose between a speed boat and a barge, you'd better believe I'd take the barge.

k_rock923 29th January 2004 23:33

Ford F350 six wheel diesel is all i have to say.

ScorLibran 29th January 2004 23:42

Evo VII's and Evo VIII's are legendary among street-modders.

Not many cars a modified E36 M3 has to fear, but a modded late-gen Mitsu Evo is one of them. They scare me more than Viper GTS's. Mainly because I witnessed a bored-over Viper owner get his ass handed to him by a tweaked Evo VII. Going in a straight line, even. :eek:

Other than that, I wouldn't have one because they're butt-fugly. :igor:

k_rock923 29th January 2004 23:46

doesn't matter about a race. get a truck and run over them. then we'll see where all the money in making it fast went. and personally, i'd rather be in the pickup when it hits a regular car

ScorLibran 30th January 2004 05:57

The truck has to catch the fast car before it can run over it. ;)

And I'd rather be in my M3 when there's an impending collision. I can turn at almost 1 g. That means I can easily avoid big clumsy trucks (or almost anything else heavier than me).

(No offense to truck fans...I love trucks too. :) )

Starbucks 30th January 2004 11:54

The Nissan 350Z has similar power and handling for about the same price range. Gonna get my Z soon. =) I've seen a Z with 380CHP N/A. Just 15HP shy of a Modena with the same size engine. Can't wait for the aftermarket to flare up :)

BTW the EVO looks like crap, would rather have an STi.

Too-DAMN-Much 30th January 2004 12:01

i'm with k_rock923, my dream vehicle is a dodge ram 3500 with the turbo diesel V12 jacked way up on huge 44 inch tires

DuaneJeffers 30th January 2004 12:40

/me has to live with his Ford Focus a while ... :(

hgnis 30th January 2004 13:37

S.U.B.A.R.U.

Widdykats 30th January 2004 15:46

vrommmmmm! :cool:

Widdykats 30th January 2004 16:27

And of course!
:cool:

Doktor 30th January 2004 17:03

If you were in Europe, you would pick absolutely different cars just because of the price of fuel...(still being into the sports car); 2liters engine is simply enough for a smaller car, if you know how to mod it. And my upper limit is let's say 3,5liters V6 enigne - BMW preferably...

V12 is just for rednecks...

k_rock923 30th January 2004 17:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Too-DAMN-Much
i'm with k_rock923, my dream vehicle is a dodge ram 3500 with the turbo diesel V12 jacked way up on huge 44 inch tires
that better have dual rear wheels

MidnightViper88 31st January 2004 03:43

Quote:

Originally posted by DuaneJeffers
/me has to live with his Ford Focus a while ... :(
Hey! My dad has a ZX3, and they just might be my first car! The ZX3 may not be much for the base car, and the SVT still isn't much compaired even to something like an Impreza WRX, but what other sport compact car do you know has the capability to be converted to RWD and can be V8 powered? :D

k_rock - There's someone who has an F-360 dualie nearby my house...Lowered a bit, altezzas, and a chrome front bumper guard; Very nice...Want me to help you boost it? :D

Vie 31st January 2004 14:19

Quote:

Originally posted by DuaneJeffers
/me has to live with his Ford Focus a while ... :(
I would comfort you, but I'm too buisy warding your car away with a cruisifix.

Too-DAMN-Much 31st January 2004 15:03

Quote:

Originally posted by k_rock923
that better have dual rear wheels

it'll barely fit in the lanes with single 44's

BMWboy 1st February 2004 04:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Too-DAMN-Much
i'm with k_rock923, my dream vehicle is a dodge ram 3500 with the turbo diesel V12 jacked way up on huge 44 inch tires
last I checked, the top-end diesel engine in the new dodge ram was an turbo-diesel inline six with 500+lbs-ft of torque. I could be wrong thought as I don't really follow trucks.

EDIT-after a quick(really quick) search, the dodge site mentions only the V8 Hemi and the I6 diesel in an '04 Ram 3500

Too-DAMN-Much 1st February 2004 21:13

i think it was the older ram's that had the diesel V12's

sgtfuzzbubble011 1st February 2004 21:38

They never had V-12 diesels. They have a V-10 gas-burner, though. Ford also has a V-10 gas-burner. Dodge offers the I-6 Cummins diesel that BMWboy mentioned, while Ford offers a couple V-8 diesels (same engines, just different displacements I believe). And GM also offers a V-8 diesel in their fulls-size trucks. Anyways, I'm not going to get too deep into this subject as it's a bit off from the original topic of the thread...


Quote:

Not many cars a modified E36 M3 has to fear, but a modded late-gen Mitsu Evo is one of them. They scare me more than Viper GTS's. Mainly because I witnessed a bored-over Viper owner get his ass handed to him by a tweaked Evo VII. Going in a straight line, even.
I've read about a GMC Typhoon that can waste a Viper, too. Granted, it's turbocharged and intercooled, it still has the original 4.3 liter V-6 in it. With a 0-60 time of 1.420 seconds and a quarter mile trap time of 9.840 seconds @ 137.640 MPH, I think it's safe to say that performance isn't limited to cars.

DuaneJeffers 2nd February 2004 02:45

Quote:

Originally posted by MidnightViper88
Hey! My dad has a ZX3, and they just might be my first car! The ZX3 may not be much for the base car, and the SVT still isn't much compaired even to something like an Impreza WRX, but what other sport compact car do you know has the capability to be converted to RWD and can be V8 powered? :D
Actually, they guy who sold me the car told me that it had enough base power to beat any modified Honda Civic. Boy was he right. There was a night where I was coming home from work and these guys with lowered and primered Honda Civic (w/ a rice burner) and he couldn't catch up. It was rather funny. Oh, or there was this one time where this(what looked like) newly purchased Honda Civic wanted to try and race me. It was funny. I was on my way from a 45 mph zone to a 55 mph zone (and a zone that wasn't patroled by police ... god I love this town) and at line he got off first, however, I kept behind him, gradually catching up every second, until we both were going at 100 mph and I had passed him. Now, he might have been backing off, but it didn't look that way cause he followed me all the way home trying to pass me. I enjoyed those nights, but I don't do it now.

Vie: It was a joke.

-Duane

ScorLibran 2nd February 2004 03:33

Quote:

Originally posted by DuaneJeffers
Actually, they guy who sold me the car told me that it had enough base power to beat any modified Honda Civic.
The stock ZX3 is fast, but I wouldn't say it could beat ANY modified Honda Civic with its base power. You haven't come across some of the Civics I've raced that can trap at 10 seconds. They can really be made awesomely fast. The guy should have used the word "some" instead of "any".

There are Honda Civics in this world that can take out a Porsche 996 GT2. Never underestimate what can be done with a very light car and a healthy modification budget. Hence, the popularity of the Mitsubishi Evo's as well. (Same's true for the ZX3, as a matter of fact.)

That's why Corvettes, for instance, have a lot of trouble keeping up with many top-modded compact cars. And some stock ones, even. ;)

k_rock923 2nd February 2004 03:39

hey, don't be making fun of the vette! i love that car. espcially a nice '68 one. *drools*

ScorLibran 2nd February 2004 03:55

Oh, trust me, I'm not making fun of the Corvette. I love them. They're a (the?) hallmark of American performance cars.

I'd like to have a split-window '63, personally. I've wanted one for years.

http://www.dragers.com/dgc2589/dgc2589.html

MidnightViper88 2nd February 2004 20:49

1968 Corvette L-88

'Nuff said... :D

sgtfuzzbubble011 2nd February 2004 23:35

Quote:

I'd like to have a split-window '63, personally. I've wanted one for years.

http://www.dragers.com/dgc2589/dgc2589.html

Quote:

1968 Corvette L-88

'Nuff said... :D

Now that's what I'm talkin 'bout.

ScorLibran 3rd February 2004 03:45

I may drive German, but I love the American steel too, you know.

Credit where credit's due. ;)


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