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Smeggle 2nd February 2004 03:11

Nostradamus..Believable or Not?...
 
I just been watching the film about Notradamus. Was kinda well put together and pretty realistic to say the least.
I haven't read much of the Quatrains though do have a knowledge of them and his visions.

Whilst some could be questioned, others definately are a little to close to be dismissed,

So Do you believe him or not ?

I think I'll sit on thefence till I have read more on him, butfrom what I have read upto now I would believe it...especially the end ofthe film, which I think was more artistic licence than anything else, the Space Craft...wicked..
Whats your thoughts on it?


~ :)

ShyShy 2nd February 2004 04:49

That's actually a film I wanted to see. I'll admit to being a little curious as to what he had predicted. Especially the whole bit about Hitler and misspelling his name by one letter. Another book to look up.

Coman 2nd February 2004 05:16

there are people that believe in coincidences and there are people who believe in destiny, which kind are you?

SSJ4 Gogitta 2nd February 2004 05:20

This is a good book.. I have it.

Fickle 2nd February 2004 05:21

sometimes it jives, most times it doesn't. Like the Bible. Huh.

ryan 2nd February 2004 06:10

Rasputin > Nostradamus

*Hides

bgesley 2nd February 2004 08:33

I bet if I made 1,000 quatrains a few would turn out, wouldn't you?

I bet Nostradamus had more of a poetic meaning to his ideas. Just metaphors to be interpreted. I mean if you ever find a song thats goes
"and then two towers fell..."
well then what do you think they predicted?

or was it just a song?

MidnightViper88 2nd February 2004 21:30

Quote:

Originally posted by bgesley
I bet if I made 1,000 quatrains a few would turn out, wouldn't you?

I bet Nostradamus had more of a poetic meaning to his ideas. Just metaphors to be interpreted. I mean if you ever find a song thats goes
"and then two towers fell..."
well then what do you think they predicted?

or was it just a song?

After 9/11, my dad pointed out one of Nostradamus' predictions to the attack on the WTC towers in a book that he had since the 70's, and it also mentions the general location (Latitude, longitude) of New York...I don't remember what exactly it read, but I found it interesting...Too big of a coincidence, perhaps?

I gave other predictions a look to find if any others were true, but I forgot whatever I found...

Fickle 2nd February 2004 21:40

it said something about birds though. I've read it.

Smeggle 2nd February 2004 21:54

It sort of goes with a thing I think about a lot. What if it is our thoughts that create what comes into excistence.
I sort of get it from the statement that 'We are only limited by our own imagination' or was it just that his Imagination?

I wonder cause I know that in about 7 years time we are ging to be able to communicate or read 'Time'/'History' [?] (Does that read right?)

it sort of links to another theory I have on atoms and the connective energy that exists between all atoms and I believe that to be in a very very low electro-magnetic level. This has to be the case as an atom has an 'lectrical' energy and we are as much connected to a partical atom as every one is. I mean after allis said and done every physical thing we know that exisists on a planetery level i.e. Earth, is just a collection of atoms set in a specific order.

it is what gives it this order that I question and the only answer I can find is that they must have an ability to communicate at some level, such as does a single cell organism.
I think that every single sound or 'event' has somehow been recorded at an atomical level and that one day soon and i mean sooner than you think, we are going to be able to 'communicate' with a long dead era or rather the 'Recorded Information' at atomical level or it may be smaller than that ..I dunno - it is only a theory after all.

I get that idea from stuff like LOTR and the knowledge of the Trees (Ents) and the 'Memory' of the 'Stone', which is said in lore to hold the events of what happens around it steadfastly.

think about it? Where do you see Ghosts most often?

Answer: 'Stone' Built Houses of course...hmmm.....that seems to add up ( see how my mind works? Logical simplicity - sort of LMAO --more like insane *Shrugs* probably true LOL)

anyway 7 years I think and it would be at research level probably some where like Oxford University they have something that can compute at speeds beyond belief. ( Take every standard computer that exists, network them all together - your probably getting close to a tenth of the computing power of this thing and it's in a test tube - read about it the other week)
anyway I would say that take this 'Super' chip to say times 8 it's current computing power and you should be able to raed 'Time' adequately.

I also have a theory on why the 'binary System' screws up so much (apart from operator :P) but ...I'll get boring if I go there as it's kinda complex how I see it and is all to do with harmonic balance and colour and sound and with some weird cosmological stuff in and there a word now...look at it ...Waht is the real word? This is a hidden word or 'Keyword' to unravelling these mystery's.

Cosmological or COSMO - LOGICAL? I think it actually is another bastadization of two words such re-act it's take part of one word and the end part of another and making a new word to describe some thing in a short and in this sence would indicate to me that it is actually telling you that the Cosmos is Logical.

hmmm maybe there's some truth to the Illogical after all.......relativity says einstien.... hmm great till you bump into this stuff...The limits of an imagination....ha I have no limit...

~ :)

Coman 3rd February 2004 02:57

well, damn.

d0rk 3rd February 2004 16:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle
it said something about birds though. I've read it.
Proves the whole things is false. And the part about the birds is on the second page.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/his...ostradamus.htm

Mr_007 4th February 2004 10:06

Nostradamus live in 400 year ago.

marvinbarcelona 4th February 2004 20:59

Nostradamus' "predictions" are ridiculous, yet still believed by many. Time and time again, his alleged prophesies have been utterly debunked. Remember, his "prophesies" are only understood after the event....strange that, eh?

The following is from The Skeptic



"September 11, 2001

After the terrorist skyjackings and attacks in the United States on September 11, 2001, a rumor was spread that Nostradamus had predicted it. The following quatrains were offered as proof:

In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
While the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
Third big war will begin when the big city is burning.

These quatrains are hoaxes. The first two lines seem to be an alteration of Centuries X, quatrain 72:

L'an mil neuf cent nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un grand Roi d'Angoumois.

Or in English,

The year 1999 seven months
From the sky will come the great King of Terror.*

There is no reference in Nostradamus to "the new century and nine months."

The next two lines are from Centuries VI, quatrain 97.

Cinq et quarante degrés ciel brûlera,
Feu approcher de la grand cité neuve,

Or in English,

At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
Fire to approach the great new city:

Some rumormongers speculated that 45 degrees refers to the latitude of New York, but the latitude in Central Park is 40° 47' N. Any but the dimmest bulb should be able to shoehorn "at 45 degrees the sky will burn" with some aspect of the terrorist attacks. The remainder of VI.97 is

Instant grand flamme éparse sautera,
Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue,

Or in English,

In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
When one will want to demand proof of the Normans.

The only thing in these lines that is even vaguely close to what happened is the mention of "a great scattered flame." Even the dimmest should be bright enough to find some way to connect "Normans" giving "proof" with what happened."

Raz 4th February 2004 21:25

People are capable of making certain predictions come true you know. People can read them and then decide to do it.

hungryskull 4th February 2004 21:39

Quote:

Remember, his "prophesies" are only understood after the event....strange that, eh?
That happens every time something like that happens.

james 4th February 2004 22:09

smeggle: study quantum physics

¬_¬ :igor:

marvinbarcelona 4th February 2004 22:31

Quote:

Originally posted by james
smeggle: study quantum physics

¬_¬ :igor:


I tried that once.....had to put ear-plugs in to stop my brains dribbling out my ears. My head still hurts when I think about it.....:weird:

james 4th February 2004 22:34

hah, they make us learn it for our chemistry degree


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