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xraycat 25th February 2004 04:39

need help analysing a poem
 
for english we have to do an essay analysing a poem using the tp-castt system, which stands for title (literal), paraphrase (literal), connotations (all the figurative language), attitude, shift, title (figuratively this time), and theme. i was wondering if anyone here could give me some ideas using that system on this poem:

The Splendor Falls
Alfred, Lord Tennyson

The splendor falls on castle walls
And snowy summits old in story;
The long light shakes across the lakes,
And the wild cataract leaps in glory.
Blow, bugle, blow, set the wild echoes flying,
Blow, bugle; answer, echoes, dying, dying, dying.

O, hark, O, hear! how thin and clear,
And thinner, clearer, farther going!
O, sweet and far from cliff and scar
The horns of Elfland faintly blowing!
Blow, let us hear the purple glens replying,
Blow, bugle; answer, echoes, dying, dying, dying.

O love, they die in yon rich sky,
They faint on hill or field or river;
Our echoes roll from soul to soul,
And grow for ever and for ever.
Blow, bugle, blow, set the wild echoes flying,
And answer, echoes, answer, dying, dying, dying.

If anyone could give me ideas using the tp-castt system that would be great. thanks.

ryan 25th February 2004 04:44

Try the poetry thread, in the arts and designs forum. You will probably find better help there.

White Raven 25th February 2004 04:44

Sad how in English class we must resort to butchering any good piece of literature that comes our way.

I'll help you as soon as I know this - What's the 'shift' in a poem?

whiteflip 25th February 2004 06:00

so you want us to do your homework for you?

GqSkrub 25th February 2004 10:56

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
so you want us to do your homework for you?
exactly. If you had a more specific question like, does the shift occur in line 56? then i think people would be more inclined to help. Also don't hesitate to ask the teacher, of course only if it's not due today :igor:

Vie 25th February 2004 14:17

Quote:

Originally posted by White Raven
Sad how in English class we must resort to butchering any good piece of literature that comes our way.
It isnt it, I mea its so stupid. I have had Macbeth RUINED for me because of that stupid practice!
Whats worse is they dont seem to realise that most people who write books, write books not some deap phycological meaning hidden deap within a small thing. "Somtimes a cigar is just a Cigar" I wish people would rember that.

PS, Tankgirl Avitar?

Magic_Midget 25th February 2004 16:50

I'm a poet, but I don't like to pick apart pieces of writing and trying to solve it. I can write poetry, but I failed in nitpicking the details. I don't even think izchan would know it either..

You're on your own for now....

horse-fly 25th February 2004 17:17

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
so you want us to do your homework for you?
my thoughts exactly

whiteflip 25th February 2004 21:57

You could always buy a book on analyzing poetry. A beginners guide to poetry or something like that. There are also librarys that may contain these books. You should go there.

If you want I can analyize the poem for you but I will purposely do it falsely.

Bilbo Baggins 25th February 2004 22:04

It starts of with a few words, that carry on into some sort of coherence, more words, words, words and a full stop or three.

xraycat 26th February 2004 01:00

Quote:

Originally posted by White Raven
Sad how in English class we must resort to butchering any good piece of literature that comes our way.

I'll help you as soon as I know this - What's the 'shift' in a poem?

the shift is like when the poem's tone changes. some poems don't have them though.

xraycat 26th February 2004 22:38

any more ideas?

whiteflip 26th February 2004 22:42

no

Kinetik* 27th February 2004 02:37

AP teachers are like: "Analyze this", and then you're so bent on "Analyzing" it, that you Over-Analyze it to the point where you start going into how you think the poem had something to do with the Writer's bad childhood when his cousin thrice-removed died because his great-grandfather choked on a lemon, and about how the lemon-producing company was from France, and something about the French-Revolution.

I mean shit.

<Edit>Tell your English teacher to go shove it.</Edit>


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