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dileepd11 23rd May 2004 18:37

My posted skin is missing from the winamp skin database
 
Its been more than 1 week since i updated my posted skin at winamp. But after the update the skin does not turn up in the most recent skins or in the search. Its present in the database but otherwise i cannot find it anywhere can anyone tell me what happend to it. I had posted it on May 11th. Never did i recieve any notifications on it. When i log in it shows no skins published.The page that we can currently see is also not updated.

http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=141783

Wildrose-Wally 23rd May 2004 19:52

It's a rip from someone else's skin and as such will not be published. Go away. :down:

Mr Jones 23rd May 2004 21:39

As you quite clearly point out in your own description, the skin isn't originally yours, so it isn't up to you to decide wether it gets published on this site or not.

Dosn't matter a jot if you have improved it a 1000%, if it aint yours to start with, and you don't have permission from the original author you shouldn't publish it here, or anywhere else for that matter.

Now, do as Wally says and go away :)

dileepd11 24th May 2004 17:57

Just as i had mentioned in my description This skin was meant for my personal use and i had lost the original skin. so couldnt u help me find out the owner of The skin Aquamp. Its not to be found anywhere. More over i had spent about a week working on and modifying more than 70% of the skin. u had published it once and it had about 25000 downloads in just a week and when i update it u remove it citing a rip. Moreover i had given the author full credit as well as possible considering he was unknown. Kindly reconsider your descision and help me find the original author.

This skin is also posted at 1001winampskins.com with the same description and i had recieved only positive comments even from a person who had the original with him. I tried contacting him for the details but his id also dint have a valid email attached ot it.

http://www.1001winampskins.com/skin_...l?skin_id=3324

You may check it out or even consider reporting it to 1001winampskins.com.

Wildrose-Wally 24th May 2004 18:18

I will consider reporting your modification as a rip to the people at 1001, in the meantime it is still a rip on this site, which is really all that matters as far as our job is concerned. Your skin will not be re-considered for publication as it is a RIP.

Now really, GO AWAY. :mad:

dileepd11 24th May 2004 18:22

The problem has occured only because i was true enough to say that this skin was based on a currently non existant skin the author of which is unknown to me. If i hadnt mentioned that in my description u would certainly have welcomed it. You may locate a copy of Aquamp if possible (i doubt it) and checkout my work on it. I liked it and based my work on it. Mac was a common theme and in my search for mac skins i had come accross many based on the same design in your skin community itself so i think you woudn't publish those also. Basically all mac themes are based on the same design. I am not concerned with your publishing it since i dont gain anything from it. but i hope u could find me a copy of the original skin which i am accused of ripping or the working email id of its author. I had created it for my personal use about 1 year back and i never retained a copy of the original since i dint want to publish it. I considered publishing it only because my friends considered it worthy of publishing.

StillWater 24th May 2004 18:38

It is a rip, though I agree that since the original was just a port of imac graphics, and hence a rip in its own way, that's almost irrelevant, and you've been jibbed on what is almost just a technicality :(

Anyway, I don't know if the mods here are even able to find a way to contact the original 'author'. Have you searched for the original at other skin sites? (deviantart.com, customize.org, deskmod.com, wincustomize.com, skinz.org....) perhaps you can find a way to contact the author through one of those. Also, try searching for him on Google.

Failing that, just make another one, this time not based on someone else's skin. Skinning is addictive, so you can't just stop at one anyway ;)

dileepd11 24th May 2004 18:40

Finally i located the skin.

http://www.pcclub-bg.com/download/sk...amp/Aquamp.wsz

But the Author's web site address is non existant.
I have responded to the email id results awaited. if i get his permission will my skin be considered?

Wildrose-Wally 24th May 2004 18:57

no

dileepd11 24th May 2004 19:12

What's the problem now if i am able to get his permission.

Wildrose-Wally 24th May 2004 19:45

Like you said:
1. You made it for yourself, keep it that way.
2. Mac was a common theme, there are more than enough without admitting admitted rips.

Case closed, someone lock the thread, please.

dlinkwit27 24th May 2004 21:18

Aye, I don't agree with this decision. I think Stillwater is right.

StillWater 25th May 2004 06:20

Quote:

Originally posted by dileepd11
if i get his permission will my skin be considered?
I imagine that if you get his permission, some other sites might be ok with publishing it.

Although Wally was right when he said that there are already more than enough similar skins on winamp.com. Some of them are very similar to yours.

If you REALLY want to publish a skin, then I suggest that you re-work this one until it has been done with a different 'edge' than all the other Max-OS skins (although that may not be too easy). When it is sufficiciently different from the original skin - as different as the other Mac-OS skins are - then I don't think anyone could legitimately claim that it is a rip anymore

dileepd11 25th May 2004 13:14

At last i have got the permission. This was the author's reply.

yeah thats fine
can i see it?

Now i hope some one will check out my work to verify it since i have given you the link to the original and i hope i will be permitted to post it since the original is not located in the winamp archive. You had also published it already so i know its good enough to be published.

Mr Jones 25th May 2004 13:57

Yeah, and Bill Gates gave me permission to distribute windows source code as well.

Can you actually prove that he gave you any permission beyond what you wrote up there?

Raz 25th May 2004 14:16

Quote:

Originally posted by dileepd11
At last i have got the permission. This was the author's reply.

yeah thats fine
can i see it?

Hahahahahaha.

That is all.

dileepd11 25th May 2004 15:08

How should i prove it. Just tell me how. I shall ask him to mail you if you give me an address .or i shall forward his mail to you. Will that be enough? Just tell me what to do and where to send it to.

Mr Jones 25th May 2004 15:23

You can send it to /dev/null for me.

I think Wally should have the final yay or nay in this instance,seing as how he removed it in the first place, so you'll have to wait and see what he says and if he's interested in seeing your 'proof' or not.

dileepd11 25th May 2004 17:56

1 Attachment(s)
I am attaching the email he sent me If any one needs proof they may refer to it.

Wildrose-Wally 25th May 2004 23:50

Quote:

Originally posted by wildrose-wally
Like you said:
1. You made it for yourself, keep it that way.
2. Mac was a common theme, there are more than enough without admitting admitted rips.

Case closed, someone lock the thread, please.


StillWater 26th May 2004 06:12

why? is the email a fake? If not, then what's the problem?

dileepd11 3rd June 2004 18:59

Thank you
 
The skin moderator has kept his word and my skin has been deleted from 1001winamp skins as well. Thanks a lot.

If any one feels like supporting me please reply to this post.

Mr Jones 3rd June 2004 19:14

Sorry, Wally made his views on this very clear a while ago, my fault for not locking it at the time, slipped my attention.

What other sites do with their submissions is not our concern, if you have a problem with 1001 you should take it up with the owners of 1001.

As far as this forum and site is concerned the subject is closed, if you wish to take this up any further please PM any of the Winamp skin reviewers.

Please don't start new threads regarding this, they will be locked and deleted if you do, PM a reviewer or use the appropriate removal appeal thread in the rip reporting forum.

*retro lock*


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