Viper tops out in C&D Supercar Shootout/Formula D
 

Looks like the 3rd-generation Viper SRT-10 and Competition Coupes have been taking top honors recently in two regions... :D

First congrats is to John Hennessey and Hennessey Motorsports for winning this year in Car & Driver's Supercar Shootout, a performance competition between many of the top sports cars tuners and the fastest cars they've brung...It sounds as if John brought out an SRT-10 Venom 800TT to stomp the competition...It went on earlier this week, and the Shootout article should make it sometime by fall...

And then there's Formula D, the SCCA's drifting competition: Congrats goes to Newformz, Team Lateral G, Marco Rad, Mopar Performance and of course Samuel Hubinette for another extordinary win in his factory-backed Viper Competition Coupe! This is the second race Samuel Hubinette and his Viper CC have entered, and this is also his second straight win in an auto sport dominated by the Japanese, often being given major style points for large, smokey drifts and passes on the outside...Much talent credit to controlling such a large vehical throughout a drift is also due to Hubinette's track racing background...

http://www.urbanracer.com/articles/a....asp?a=967&z=1

Some pictures from the last race...
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:D

Very good news.

OMG just clicked on the link. The SRT-10 800TT Venom kit cost $42,000 and does not include the $81,000 nor the suspension upgrades used to win the competition. The tested car could have easily costed $130,000+.

For that much money I'd rather get a 1300hp+ Supra crafted entirely out of carbon fiber weighing only 2700lbs, and would still have $30,000 left to burn. Lateral G's anyone?

But if I were to be realistic, I'd buy a used Supra for $13,000 and purchase a 900HP turbo kit for less than 12k. A 9.7 1/4 mile daily driven supra is deal hard to beat. Just my opinion.

Congrats ont the Formula D wins though.

Vipers aren't cheap to begin with, especially if they're brand-new SRT-10s... ;) Personally, if I had that kind of money, I'd spend the extra dough just because the Viper's a rare and exclusive car...To me, the Supra has kinda been tainted with an adolesence image thanks to it's starring role in "Fast and the Furious"...

Although both cars would certainly attract attention of some sort, I don't want a swarm of 18-25 year olds following me where I go when I drive a Supra, no matter how fast it is... :p

I feel the same way. The Supra is a great car and somewhat exclusive due to Toyota's decision to kill it to meet emissions, but the Supra is a true sports car in a (my) realistic price range. If I really had $145,000 I would get something more exotic like a Ferrari Modena or a Carbon Fiber Skyline with no paint. I like the Carbon Fiber weave look. It looks mean.

Ferrari...Ick... :p

I dunno...There's something about Ferrari's I don't like anymore...I've started to prefer Lamborghinis more recently for some reason...

I'm a sucker for torque... :D :p

18-25 year old men or 18-25 year old women? I would go to the viper so I WOULD have a crowd of 18-25 year olds following me around :P

Carbon Fiber cracks. Its all about the beryllium baby :) (whou wouldnt want a car body worth more than its weight in platinum?)

It's all about looks...You know, like my carbon fiber hood, spoiler, and M3-style mirrors? It's all about the latest ricer fashion, you lamer... :p

Carbon Fiber is very light and extremely strong. Any material hitting a wall at 160MPH will crack or bend plain and simple.Yeah it's all about the ricer fashion dudes. All the new 05 Mustang "GT-R's" are doing it now too. Rice rice baby! :-/ http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/t...4_05_small.jpghttp://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/t...4_04_small.jpgSee those HID shiny head lights and those ultra chrome wheels? Makes that ricy body kit look fake. Rice Rice Rice Rice

Pff! :rolleyes:

This Carbon PVO Viper SRT-10 is the real deal...Carbon fiber in the engine bay...Also has it on the roof, hood, trunk, A-pillar, as well as a carbon fiber front lip! :D

Too bad it doesn't have carbon fiber mirrors... :( Those Civics that think they're ricers with just a hood and spoiler? This is the real deal, so take note, boys! :D

Bah, give me big heavy bulky double-sided galvanized steel body panels any day. :p

But I am glad to see an American car dominating in a competition where nothing but a bunch of rice cars were before.

Rhys Millen has been in Formula D for a while driving a factory-sponsored Pontiac GTO...And while he may not be winning in points as much as Samuel and his Viper, he's still winning over audiences (Rhys' first appearance in the GTO recieved boos from the croud because of his American machine, but eventually got them cheering for his large, smokey drifts)...

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8208

The GTO and Viper are relativly huge when compaired to the other cars like the Supra and Skyline...And even though I'm not totally into drifting, it amazes me how easy they make it seem to control these large cars when the rear tires have no control... :D

I don't like rice fashion, and I don't understand why the Mustang "GT-R" would follow such a gay Civic/Rice fashion for Christs sake. If you like it it's up to you. I prefer the real stuff:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/760583/e03d.jpg

BTW that "Carbon Concept" still weighs a shitload. That 8277 cc engne is so heavy it's almost considered unsprung weight. Precisely the reason why it loses in corner dependant races like Le Mans, DTM, and JGTC. :D

FYI, the Supra's and Skyline's competing in Formula D weigh around 3400lbs-3500lbs, heavier if not weighing as much as the heavily modified and heavily sponsored Vipers and GTOs. The privateers don't have nearly enough cash to buy good weight reducing materials like Rhys Millen has. The GTO and Viper has major factory sponsorship behind them. The majority of japanese Formula D drifters are privateers that spend their own money on tuning. The last drift king won using a $1000 1986 Toyota Corolla. I havent heard of any Japanese car manufacturer sponsoring a drifter yet.

Actually, I was thinking more in "physical" size, not weight...

And I was kidding on the carbon fiber/ricer thing... :p

Physical size does not differ either, Supras and skylines are huge cars.

That stang is still rice-o-licious though, lol. :D

Momentum matters, though... ;)

And my step-mom's old Civic could beat that V8-powered ricer... :D

Lemme put a set of 185[85]R15s on my truck, and I'll beat every fucking thing there. :D

Momentum is weight dependant. Which one weighs more, a pound of fethers or a pound of rocks? :)

would that be a pound of feathers and rocks on earth or a pound of feathers and rocks on the moon?

A pound is a pound... but the real question is: Which one has a better coefficient of drag? Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, because we all know that rocks and feathers don't have wheels and tires.

a pound of rocks weighs more because it's more dense than feathers. and if you dropped the two at the same time the rocks would hit the ground first because the weight isn't spread out and doesn't catch any wind that will slow them down.

Let me rephrase the question.

If you put 1 lbs of fethers inside an ice chest and 1 lbs of rocks into an ice chest and slide both chests accross a slipery road, which chest would slide further?

the chest with the rocks

Exactly, weight is weight reguardless of size or material.
Trick question they both weigh 1 pound. 1 pound is 1 pound. As is 1 pound of titanium is 1 pound of copper, or 1 pound of 1 cent coins being the same weight as 1 pound of 10 cent dimes. Get my "drift"?

The chest with the rocks will slide just as far as the chest with the fethers, copper and titanium.

Will a 17lb flywheel not spin up as quickly as a 17lb carbon flywheel? If you want the flywheel to stay in motion longer, you must increase the weight of the flywheel. The extra weight will help the flywheel spin longer.

I didnt think people were actually that stupid... One pounds of rocks is like one fist sized rock. One pound of feathers is a very large bag full. Put either on a scale and it reads 1 freakin pound.

i was thinking more about aerodynamics and weight distribution and things like that.

by putting both in the ice chests it removes those factors. anyways, the mazda rx8 has near perfect weight distro and is relatively inexpensive. i wish i knew someone who had one so i could drive it.

you can do what i do, i go to the car dealership of choice act like your going to buy a new car,pic a car you like and test drive. 350z,corvets,mustang cobras.<--- i ended up buying one. lol

i realy doubt they let you doit to the viper.
but you can try it with the rx8.

I can understand the bitter complications of physics better than I can this post... :igor: :p