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Titule 13th January 2005 21:34

Next song / next preset
 
I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

[Ishan] 14th January 2005 12:56

gee....there is such an option? i did'nt know either :weird:

hboy 14th January 2005 13:13

this smells...like potential flaming! :D

Warrior of the Light 14th January 2005 14:00

Look at the date
now don't tell me you searched the forums before you posted
in other words, no it is not possible

Titule 15th January 2005 11:05

Thanks for the link.
I did search, but the thread does not include the keywords I was looking for. Believe me, I'd rather have found a quick answer to my problem instead of opening a new thread and wait a few days for the answer.
It seems to be popular to answer every question that was asked before with eyes-rolling and "you should have searched", while I'm confinced that most people did so and would prefer to find the answer in the fist way or the FAQ.
And if I've found the link, I would still have asked if it has been implemented, since the request is three years old.
So I propose to put it on the wishlist, could one of the admins please move this thread there? (I don't want to next dude flaming me for cross-posting :rolleyes: )

Yathosho 15th January 2005 11:48

isn't that possible with hotlist and/or avs playlister? i never used any of them, but i think they can probably do what you are looking.

Titule 17th January 2005 20:04

Thanks for your info.
I checked avs playlister and lost expectation of my life. This program is unusable, horribly designed, and crashed two times in 15 minutes.
Hotlist is stucked in a beta version with no further active development.

PAK-9 18th January 2005 13:04

You lost expectation of your life?

Titule 18th January 2005 18:52

I think so. I should have measured my blood pressure when evaluating this program to be sure, though.

[Ishan] 20th January 2005 07:44

i have'nt tried AVS playlister......i have used hotlist once....altho i dont require these programs:p winamp is enough for me :D ;)

goebish 29th January 2005 20:12

Next song / next preset
 
This would require a general purpose plugin.

Note: I first made Playlister for my personal use and it does what I want :)

Titule 5th February 2005 13:52

Why does it require a plugin?
AVS already knows when a new song starts, you can see this in the beat detection section: There you can choose how to detect the beats when a new song starts (adapt or learn new).
So the trigger ist there.
All what it needs is to connect it to the switch preset section.

goebish 5th February 2005 14:35

This cannot be done by an APE so it require a general purpose plugin. I'm currently making one, please stand by.

jheriko 5th February 2005 14:54

if its that easy... make your own.

TomyLobo 7th February 2005 02:56

Quote:

Originally posted by goebish
This cannot be done by an APE
wrong. it can even be done by pure avs code (with some tricks of course :))

TomyLobo 7th February 2005 03:00

1 Attachment(s)
here's an example :)

[Ishan] 7th February 2005 13:30

was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

Warrior of the Light 7th February 2005 13:56

they can't since the ape is a part of the preset. the first preset without the .ape wouldn't cycle to the next preset

Titule 7th February 2005 23:56

Quote:

Originally posted by [Ishan]

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

That's true. I'm male and I want a new preset for every new song.

TomyLobo 8th February 2005 08:10

Quote:

Originally posted by [Ishan]
was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

don't think so narrow :)
APEs can (and do!) run while not added to a preset, too.
here is an example http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/7800156 :)
they can even compile code and do other nice things without being ever added to a preset

Titule 12th March 2005 21:06

Hm.
I don't understand everything said here, about APEs and whatsoever.
I understood that some people say it would be possible to program it. But I don't see that my problem was solved, or did I miss something?

^..^ 13th March 2005 01:03

no your problem isn`t solved yet. You should wait until one of those ape-freaks solved it ;)
I don't get that idea, that an ape can work, while it's not in the current preset. But it might be possible...

goebish 13th March 2005 12:31

Re: Next song / next preset
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Titule
I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

here it is: Auto preset cycler
uncompress it in your winamp/plugins directory.
it's a general purpose plugin, simple to config:
http://goebish.free.fr/vfx/aps_config.jpg

random preset must be disabled in AVS config, transitions can be enabled, just configure your avs editor as there:
http://goebish.free.fr/vfx/avs%20preset%20switcher.jpg

Hope you won't lose expectation of your life just another time ;)

I'd like some peoples to test it before publishing ...

^..^ 13th March 2005 13:08

At first it worked without problems, i tested many differnet settings (transitions etc) and everything was fine, but after a while it showed a bug: evertime a new song starts or i forward to the next one i get that windows *dong* sound.. Any idea why?

goebish 13th March 2005 13:16

I can't reproduce it :(
More details ?

edit: got it,I've to go for now but I'll try to fix it tonight :)

^..^ 13th March 2005 13:29

i have no idea why i get that! Suddenly it was there and i cannot remove it again! So i can't reproduce it either, im still having it... :( I reinstalled your plugin but i still get this win-notifications sound when it loads a new preset...
At first i thought it's because of the prompt-box you get when you made changes to a preset. But since i reinstalled the plugin and loaded an untouched preset the problem shouldn't be there anymore... :confused:

Titule 13th March 2005 15:40

No, I did not lose anything again. It did not crash. Thanks.

But:
It seemed to work the first few minutes, but than there was a transition in the middle of a song. Than I rememebered you wanted the random preset change disabled (why?) so I did and from that time I never had a preset change again.
I tried de-activating and activating again, re-started winamp.
No change. I did not even get the windows ding that ^..^ gets.

^..^ 13th March 2005 17:32

it seems that only i am getting that ding, so it's not that bad. (Also i don't really need this plugin). However it seems that it doesn't have anything to do with the "save changes" box. Cause i still get that sound when this feature is disabled. Any idea why it could be? btw "random preset advance" is disabled.

goebish 13th March 2005 18:49

"Ding" problem should be fixed now.
Download it from the same location.
Thank for testing :)

Titule 13th March 2005 19:33

I downloaded and installed it.
Still it does nothing.
I'm watching the same preset over and over now.
Getting bored.
Losing expectations of life now...

Is there something I can do for debugging?

goebish 13th March 2005 19:39

Try classic & modern skin, attached & detached visualization window ...
Strange as it seemed to work first ...

^..^ 13th March 2005 20:03

hey, no annoying "ding" anymore! It works fine now! Great job!
What was the problem with that sound anyways?

Titule 13th March 2005 21:53

Nothing. Not even a "ding".
In classic/modern/detached/attached
with "Random" on/off,
with "randomly switch presets" off/on and 10/30/100/1000 seconds

At least my bloodpressure did not go up, so I assume the program does not do any harm.

goebish 14th March 2005 05:37

Problem with sound was because I sent a WM_SYSKEYDOWN message to the avs window instead of WM_KEYDOWN followed by WM_KEYUP.
Titule I really don't know what's wrong with you. Can some more people give it a try ?

edit:

I'm just looking at the include files of the new SDK and I see:

code:
#define IPC_SETVISWND 611 // param is hwnd, setting this allows you to receive ID_VIS_NEXT/PREVOUS/RANDOM/FS wm_commands
#define ID_VIS_NEXT 40382
#define ID_VIS_PREV 40383
#define ID_VIS_RANDOM 40384
#define ID_VIS_FS 40389
#define ID_VIS_CFG 40390
#define ID_VIS_MENU 40391

#define IPC_GETVISWND 612 // returns the vis cmd handler hwnd
#define IPC_ISVISRUNNING 613
#define IPC_CB_VISRANDOM 628 // param is status of random



So I think I can code it a proper way than sending keydown/keyup messages to the avs window after retrieving his handle with FindWindow/FindWindowEx
Time to go to work now, I'll update it this evening.

^..^ 14th March 2005 11:49

sorry can't really follow. Actually i have no idea about real coding things. However the plugin works fine for me, although i found another bug: it seems as if you cannot deactivate it permanently. Everytime i deactivate it and restart winamp it is activated again. Is it supposed to be this way or is it really a bug?

goebish 14th March 2005 16:38

I just came back home... let's have a look

Updated
This one should even work for Titule (?)
Config loading/saving works fine here.

Titule 14th March 2005 19:28

Seems you never give up? Good, I appreciate that, but, sorry to say that:
No.
The configuration window and the version number has changed. (nice work, though :))
But nothing else.
I think now that it never worked and the first transitions I observed were the random transitions every 10 secs.
I got so unsure that I even pressed the "next" button to see if there are ANY preset changes (it worked).

How can I help? Maybe you implement to write debug-output to a file that I can send you?

^..^ 14th March 2005 19:42

well, here it works fine now, without re-enabling on winamp restart and without ding. Dunno, perhaps it's a matter of different winamp versions, that it doesn't work for you titule?

Titule 14th March 2005 19:56

It's winamp 5.08e
Is there any newer?

^..^ 14th March 2005 20:07

or older: im using 5.07, perhaps that's the problem?


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