I got the impression tugg had tentatively commited a preset or two

me too, but no releases this far. but i may be wrong.

is anybody paying attention here? We're talking about themes here.. having tugg vs pak for a theme's a possibility (i.e. 1 tugg-like one and 1 PAK-9 like one) but that has nothing to do with anybody still releasing presets or not :igor:

so what is there to do? choose a theme, then make the presets, then release them. whats the problem? (btw. happy to know your comp is working, wotl :))

no wotl, i don't want my name changed... sorry :D
i just thought that a simple name like "winamp forums compilation one" would be a good idea cause it seemed as if no real "theme" could be found. im sorry for any rash conclusion/decisions...

so is the theme "tugg vs pak" now, or what? im getting confused.. :igor: but this theme would indeed only be good if tugg took part with a preset or two and if the others would remix/re-do some pak/tugg presets...

i'd prefer if we'd vote about something definitive!?!

there is no theme as far as i can tell.

i just got an idea - along with our presets, we should also remix someone elses, not only will this make more presets in the pack, but the over all look of the pack will be very dfferent.

The "Tugg Vs PAK" theme isn't exactly about the community though.

That's just two persons with equally big EGO's who are constantly bumping heads together, because neither of them is wise enough to give up :rolleyes:

yeah, mr_nudge. i like that remixing idea too. But whose preset should we remix? And should everybody deal with the same preset?

I'd suggest that we make a list of a few presets and everybody picks the one he likes to remix (if we decide to add idea to the pack).

I'm not really keen on the remixing idea to be honest, unless everyone does at least one original preset and at most one remix.

I think "Tugg Vs PAK" is an okay theme provided you dont interpret it too literally. For example if you make a preset that is in the style of one of ours then comment on why you like the idea. Or do an asthetic preset and comment on how it matches Tuggs philosophy, or two stick men fighting... etc.. some crap along those lines. Not just 'dur I remixeded this preset'.

Either that or lets just not have a theme and just make presets however the hell you like.

I dunno, I'm feeling a bit tired and self-contradictory at the moment so interpret this post vaguely.

The Pak vs Tugg thing was a joke to begin with, so let's drop it if we're searching for a real theme.
I agree with Tuggummi on that :D

How about everybody releases >one< original in your own style, I make them public on the board only and we remix those again? It seems the logical thing to do after the way this discussion is going now.. I'm only concerned that there will be presets that will be remixed 5 times and others that aren't remixed at all.
How about it if I (randomly) spread those presets under us all? I'll PM you with the artist/preset to remix.
That'll give us some interesting combinations...

that'll be funny! But then we have to close the list of participants! If that is ok?

it has been open for three weeks now... that's okay.
note: the presets must be remixable then.

i'm just wondering: what makes a remixable preset? Maybe it's a dumb question, but i'm not that familiar with remixing...

just look at some random presets.. could you continue with that preset or is it just.. finished

oh it's meant that easy, ok.. Thanks!

/goes off and picks out one of his presets to delete random stuff... ;)

Can this preset be included as a tribute to the PAK vs Tug theme?

I don't think anyone wants to remix it.

the final image:

(will need to save to .bmp)

update to preset... :P

sorry, last one :)

well, the theme is not really decided but i think its a really good preset for it if it will be chosen :)

btw if you uncheck the enabled box in the effect list you gain like 8 fps cause the code override with "enabled" works only then :p

odd.. i turned it on to change the blend mode of the picture. the image didn't update so i assumed the code was still working. it didn't update until i saved and loaded the preset. thanks for pointing that out. the flak is really crappy so i'm going to redo it a bit. the on beat code makes it look crappy when the time slows down.

EDIT: The preset should be included on the grounds of there probably won't be any other 'tech' presets in the pack except for Pak's. Besides that it pwns!

if i do make any tech heavy preset, it will still incluse only superscopes (cannot sync it with DMs atm ;)), and will be trans-loaded anyway :)

Finally found a use for that warzone remix eh J?

*cough*cheap*splutter*

A bit heavy on the effects (hence the name), but when you're retired you can't do such good stuff anymore like you used to :p

that glow is shit hot tugg :D

should we post presets we want to be remixed here ir should we just drop the whole remix idea of mine? Because with only 7-ish people at 2 presets each - thats only *counts on fingers* |||||||||||||| < this many. maybe we should be able to sumit 3 or 4.

Well, in case i haven't miscount we are even 10 people contributing to this pack. And as wotl answered to the "preset-question" before:

i guess that's still ok, isn't? If a few plan to make three presets we're going to have 20-odd presets. There'll even be more when we stick to the remixing idea.

@ tugg and everyone else: please mail me your presets instead of publishing them already.. that takes away all the fun. Once again my emailaddress:
wotl[at]warrior-of-the-light.tk

more than 2 is okay. If you make more then I'll just send them all to your remixer

Too late...

we have a dedicated remixer? how does that work?

we had the idea, that wotl collects all presets and randomly selects a remixer for everyone. The "random remixer" recieves the assigned presets and remixes them. we had the idea a bit earlier, perhaps you'll find the according posts above (i'm a bit too lazy at the moment so you have to look up yourself:p)

sounds good :) and if there will be no theme then my preset is ready :)

i like the sound of that.

the sound of what? Sounds unsound somehow.. :igor:

@wotl:
i hope the deadline for sending in the presets will stay as it is, right? If so, will there be another closing date for the remixes?

my bad... just too desperate to slam it out. :P

BTW, could I write the installer for the pack? I'd like for my APE to go out with it (if thats alright with everyone) and since Pimpbot doesn't have support for it yet.... I'd like for version checking to be there.

deadline stays the same. after that date I will spread the presets.
IF SOMEONE ISN'T IN TIME HE CAN'T PARTICIPATE
So don't wait until that date please.. thankies
talk to PAK about that...

er.. what's it got to do with me?

J are you sure you want to go spreading your APE around in its beta stage? After all when (if) you finish it people will have to overwrite the old one and for simple folk it might all get a bit confusing :confused:

for whomever is putting the pack together at the end... I think its important to have a naming convention, I really hate packs that are a mish-mash of titles. For example:

WFCO - 01 - Intro
WFCO - 02 - <preset author> - <preset name>
WFCO - 03 - <preset author> - <preset name>
WFCO - 04 - <preset author> - <preset name>
WFCO - 05 - <preset author> - <preset name>
...
WFCO - 10 - <preset author> - <preset name> (<remix name> by <remixer>)
WFCO - 11 - <preset author> - <preset name> (<remix name> by <remixer>)
WFCO - 12 - <preset author> - <preset name> (<remix name> by <remixer>)
...

something like that

that's a good idea, pak! i agree with this suggestion. There are so many packs that don't start with the intro cause the presets aren't numbered or sorted in any way.

Sorry, I thought wrong.. you wanted to do the intro, not building installer+stuff.. *hits self in forehead*

then, J, it's okay with me.. I'll send it all to you when I've got it all in.

Cool. I can make the installer check the APE version, and it will be final 1.0 by then anyway

PimpBot can check version resources so I'm guessing yathosho will add it to PimpBot too... it shouldn't be anymore of a problem than the multiple versions of color map for example

I remixed J's preset, I couldnt help myself... it kept calling me saying "Finish me! Make me better! Out-do J!"

I'll mail it to you WOTL, if you want me to remix someone elses too I dont mind, but you should include this mix cos it pwns