THE internet application?
 

After so much time spent going between various messenger applications, secure P2P programs, video conferencing, and what else have you programs; I think I may have found one that does (or will do) everything I ever wanted it to do. The program is called Qnext.
It incorporates support for a whole list of various internet applications into one efficent, but not exactly user-friendly, application. Once you figure out what and were the different things are hidden, this program can pretty much do anything I want from an all-in-one internet ap. I was wondering if any of you have any experiance using this program, and if nothing else I am reccomending you to try it for yourself.

If you get it, my id is: 145261.
The number system, while I find it personally annoying, is currently the only identification system. That is one of the few downfalls I have with this program.

It does seem promising :p

I'm downloading now...

Interesting. I don't really want to be pessimistic about it, but it probably sucks. I'll check it out tomorrow, I guess.

I really never cared for jack-of-all-trade programs much. There are a couple exceptions on my computer, though. I like Trillian, but it's only for instant messaging. I don't even use it for IRC. Got mIRC for that. Most of the programs I have are for a specific purpose. Hell, sometimes, I even have several programs for the same things. I have 7-Zip, WinRAR, and WinZip all installed on this computer for archives. I know that I could use one of them for all my archives, but I use one of the three for specific formats. I'm just crazy like that I guess. :igor:

But and all-in-one internet program? Sounds a little excessive to me.

... Sounds Microsoft...

I tried Trillian a few years ago, when I was using MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, ICQ and IRC. But after not being able to get it to work with ICQ properly, I went back to only using MSN and told my friends...

"Get MSN or I won't chat with you. No....I won't install ICQ again......No.......No.....*puts fingers in ears*........LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"

:)



Except I did break down later and install mIRC. I might break down and check out this one too. But only if it can do EVERYTHING! It's everything or nothing. I'm stubborn like that.

:p

I prefer seperate programs, more flexible. All-in-ones sound like memory hoggers.

I installed it and it looks scary! I think I will stick to msn, mirc and Emule.

Re: THE internet application?
 

What would be cool, though, is incorporating the number into a URL so that you could add a contact from any site just by clicking a link. :)

A Flickr-style "locked username" would be cool though (on Flickr you start with a long random URL for your photos and you choose a shorter one at your leisure).

I've not used the software, and I suspect it will not work on this laptop!

Well, after continuing to watch and play with this now, I have come up with a few more conclusions. The first is that many of the features are not up to full-functionality yet, but I guess that's to be expected seeing as this is still only a beta. But looking through the version history, it's amazing how much stuff they have added just in the last few updates.

As far as memory usage goes, it can get quite hogging, even when the program is idling in your system tray; but even so, the memory usage is less then if I was running just the instant messenger programs seperatly. So it's a plus for me.

Evil Lu, I'm going to have to agree with you that it looks, well, it looks like shit. The plus side is that it can be skinned, but I'm still not so sure on the general organization of the interface. I'm not sure, but I'm hoping it may be possible to reorganize things and make it more intuitive though skinning.

I think it's a Java application, they usually appear to be using more RAM than they actually are. If your RAM on your system isn't full, don't worry about it - it should yield if the memory available to it is limited.

Lazy garbage collection? Or caching?

The first one, generally. You can make it do really eager GC (at least with the Sun VM) but that sacrifices speed-efficiency for memory-efficiency. Leaving it until necessary or until the system is not busy just makes more sense in most contexts. Java's a hell of a fast system these days thanks to crazed optimisation.

Now if only they could get windowing toolkits to look nice...

Heh. The dearth of most languages these days, doesn't it seem?

Incidentally, what kind of garbage collection scheme does Java use?

Depends on the Virtual Machine. The Sun one (HotSpot I think it's called) lets you select from several. I think the default one (or at least its settings) differs on the Desktop and Server profiles.

Java's big problem with Windowing Toolkits is that it abstracts so much that it essentially becomes its own API. Windows Forms for .NET is fantastic, but it doesn't abstract enough (you can hook into the system calls) so it's not nearly cross-platform enough (I blame people who use unmanaged calls, though, the bastards).