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xzxzzx 20th September 2006 18:39

shakey_snake: I typed out a long response to your post, but I've decided that you're probably flamebaiting, because you're usually not that... unobservative. (If you're not flamebaiting, say so.)

I will say something as far as vomiting goes: That doesn't mean the drug has been ineffective, not at all. Vomiting can occur many hours after the pill has been taken (and has already been digested).

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Originally posted by Mattress
As a contraceptive, if you're dumb enough to screw up using existing contraceptives, who's to say you're not going to somehow screw this one up as well?
Taking a pill? How do you screw that up?

Even with perfect use of a condom, you will still eventually have one break.

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Originally posted by Mattress
As abortion, well we already have abortion, so what's the difference? Price maybe?
People don't necessarily agree on when "life begins". Perhaps some people view it as when a fertilzed egg is implanted (the medical definition). This pill prevents that. To those people, this would not be an abortion.

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Originally posted by Mattress
As always, inform yourself and make your own decisions, and let others do the same.
That sounds like a strong argument to have this drug be over-the-counter.

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Originally posted by Mattress
Scenario number 1, have an abortion.
Scenario number 2, have an abortion.
Scenario number 3, have an abortion.

o_O You're serious? You really can't see the difference between this and an abortion? Or that someone that might not have an abortion might want to take this pill? Or you think an abortion would be preferable!?

Mattress 20th September 2006 22:09

no I'm not serious, but those are completely legal options if they're wrong then why is it legal?

I highly doubt that there are many people who think that an implanted fertilized egg is alive but a non implanted fertilized egg is not alive. That doesn't even make logical sense. Both are fertilized and both are living cells with unique DNA. Saying that one is alive and that one is not is like saying that a person who jumped off the empire state building but hasn't landed yet is not alive. Sure they will soon die but at the moment, they are alive.

Anyway, my argument was that I am neither for or against this being over the counter and that this doesn't bring anything new to the abortion/contraception debate.

swingdjted 21st September 2006 03:44

^^possibly the best post of the thread^^

shakey_snake 21st September 2006 10:57

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Originally posted by xzxzzx
shakey_snake: I typed out a long response to your post, but I've decided that you're probably flamebaiting, because you're usually not that... unobservative. (If you're not flamebaiting, say so.)
My intent wasn't to procure flaming, but I do want to bring about serious questioning of the value of participating in this type of discussion, especially considering the points listed. (it's probably it's own thread)

Because I know that you, MegaRock, squak and Mattress could probably bable on about this new pill forever without ever getting anywhere.


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