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gaekwad2 4th November 2006 01:11

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Originally posted by ElChevelle
So do I, as a true American, need to heed W's words and vote non-Democrat in order to not help the terrorists?
First and foremost you should stop publicly doubting the wisdom of your leaders:
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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
Open your mouth, and insert your foot please.

I don't need to "believe" what is known to be a fact. Terrorists do in fact quote the US media and other officials in the US when they make remarks that downplay America and help the terrorists.

Because, you see, that's "appeasing the terrorists".

SSJ4 Gogitta 4th November 2006 01:24

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Originally posted by gaekwad2
First and foremost you should stop publicly doubting the wisdom of your leaders:

Because, you see, that's "appeasing the terrorists".

Jihad Jaara wants you to vote Democrat.

ElChevelle 4th November 2006 04:06

Rush Limbaugh wants you to stop thinking and only do what he says.
No clicky your link.
I have a free thinking mind of my own.

SSJ4 Gogitta 4th November 2006 04:12

Too bad I don't listen to Rush.

hgnis 4th November 2006 07:21

The sharpest tools in the shed do not naturally line up for the armed forces.

gaekwad2 4th November 2006 08:41

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
Jihad Jaara wants you to vote Democrat.
Yeah right...

They want to make it appear like many in the west are on their side.


And apparently you fell for it.

SSJ4 Gogitta 4th November 2006 11:33

The left want to cut and run. The terrorists would love nothing more than for us to leave the Middle East, too.

ElChevelle 4th November 2006 11:56

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Originally posted by hgnis
The sharpest tools in the shed do not naturally line up for the armed forces.
Neither do the rich.

Hey, wait a minute......I served.:igor:

gaekwad2 4th November 2006 12:53

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
The left want to cut and run.
say those spinsters whose blogs you seem to take as gospel
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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
The terrorists would love nothing more than for us to leave the Middle East, too.
Oh, they'd love it even more if you invaded Iran as well, creating yet another playground for them and even more hatred towards the US which is the main cause for their support.

Think a moment (if you still can): What would rather cause someone to join a terrorist group, having your home destroyed and relatives killed by your friendly US liberators or hearing that some US politicians you never heard about are criticizing their president?

SSJ4 Gogitta 4th November 2006 16:54

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Originally posted by gaekwad2
say those spinsters whose blogs you seem to take as gospel
Oh, they'd love it even more if you invaded Iran as well, creating yet another playground for them and even more hatred towards the US which is the main cause for their support.

Think a moment (if you still can): What would rather cause someone to join a terrorist group, having your home destroyed and relatives killed by your friendly US liberators or hearing that some US politicians you never heard about are criticizing their president?

You apparently have no idea how these terrorists operate. For one, they hide behind women and children using them as human shields, and even set up bases in residential areas. When a soldier has to kill a terrorist (or be killed), guess what their bullets sometimes have to pass through first... women and children, because the terrorists are being cowards and hiding behind them. Not to mention the terrorists kill a bunch of their own via IEDs and suicide bombers.

And you assume that the only quotes the terrorists use are ones criticizing our President. Wrong. They love stuff like "Iraq is a disaster," or "Arabs in the United States had been indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."

Being treasonous is not something one wants to do, especially so in a time of war.


Another post earlier said that the terrorists want us to think they support the Democrats. These people want to take over the world and they believe that you voting Democrat will help them.

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"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.
"This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.
Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats' talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel "proud."
"As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk," he told WND. "Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal."
Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal "proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation."
"We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq," said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas' Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas' declared "resistance" department. "They did not succeed in stealing Iraq's oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw."
Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is "emboldened" by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

ElChevelle 4th November 2006 17:43

http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006...tched-joke.gif

siebe83 4th November 2006 18:49

^:blah:

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
And you assume that the only quotes the terrorists use are ones criticizing our President. Wrong. They love stuff like "Iraq is a disaster," or "Arabs in the United States had been indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."

Being treasonous is not something one wants to do, especially so in a time of war.

Stating your opinion is treasonous!?

The USA is a democracy, right? One of the features of democracy is to be able to say out loud what you think, to discuss policies and to exchange points of views. Perhaps this sometimes leads to unwanted side-effects but I wouldn't call it treason. If you say it's no longer allowed to criticize a war (for whatever reason) you're being treasonous to your very own democratic values.

And the US is bringing democracy to Iraq? :confused:

MegaRock 4th November 2006 20:20

Kerry was just plain stupid for his remarks - no doubt there - but if some snide remark like this is considered as bad as the media and right wingers want to make it then just how bad is taking American into war in Iraq when we had no business being there in the first place and lied to get there.

One lie made a man look like a jackass. The other lie caused 3,000 (and counting) military deaths and well in excess of 50,000+ civilian deaths.

Didn't change the way I'm voting one bit.

fwgx 4th November 2006 22:05

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
You apparently have no idea how these terrorists operate. For one, they hide behind women and children using them as human shields, and even set up bases in residential areas. When a soldier has to kill a terrorist (or be killed), guess what their bullets sometimes have to pass through first... women and children, because the terrorists are being cowards and hiding behind them.
That's funny because we use supsesonic jets that fly miles above the ground and use giant bombs to kill our enemies. If that's not cowardly then I don't know what it. Oh sure, the technology is pretty damn cool but you're still shooting someone in the back.

To be honest SSJ4, I used to think you were quite bright and switched on, but this thread has just left me in disbelief of the things you've said.

SSJ4 Gogitta 5th November 2006 02:16

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Originally posted by siebe83
^:blah:

Stating your opinion is treasonous!?

The USA is a democracy, right? One of the features of democracy is to be able to say out loud what you think, to discuss policies and to exchange points of views. Perhaps this sometimes leads to unwanted side-effects but I wouldn't call it treason. If you say it's no longer allowed to criticize a war (for whatever reason) you're being treasonous to your very own democratic values.

And the US is bringing democracy to Iraq? :confused:

Treason, as described by the United States Constitution is;

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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
The things that a lot of Democrats say, such as leaking out troop movements that help our enemy, are treasonous. Sorry, but I speek the truth.

And no, our country is not a democracy as a lot of Democrats and Republicans would lead you to believe; it is a Constitutional Republic. Say the Pledge of Allegiance out loud. Let me know when you get to the “…and to the Republic…” part.


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Originally posted by Phily Baby
That's funny because we use supsesonic jets that fly miles above the ground and use giant bombs to kill our enemies. If that's not cowardly then I don't know what it. Oh sure, the technology is pretty damn cool but you're still shooting someone in the back.

To be honest SSJ4, I used to think you were quite bright and switched on, but this thread has just left me in disbelief of the things you've said.

I’m sorry you feel that way when I do nothing but speak the truth. I feel my 6 year run here is essentially over with that statement.

dlinkwit27 5th November 2006 04:57

Ah ha! The Democrats suck! If only they could find someone who spoke as eloquently as President Bush!

"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

What a statesman!

Namelessv1 5th November 2006 06:27

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
The things that a lot of Democrats say, such as leaking out troop movements that help our enemy, are treasonous. Sorry, but I speek the truth.
Yes, like Democratic Senator Rick Santorum showing a classified intelligence document on Hannity & Colmes.

hgnis 5th November 2006 07:09

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Originally posted by ElChevelle
Neither do the rich.

Damn straight.
just ask how many of these so called patriots we have in government if their children are out on the front lines.
Wait, maybe they are giving the enemy comfort by not "protecting" this land.:igor:

Razzinno 5th November 2006 07:31

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Originally posted by Namelessv1
Yes, like Democratic Senator Rick Santorum showing a classified intelligence document on Hannity & Colmes.
Actually, he is a Republican.

Namelessv1 5th November 2006 07:38

;)

Razzinno 5th November 2006 07:46

Got it. :up:

gaekwad2 5th November 2006 10:51

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
I’m sorry you feel that way when I do nothing but speak the truth.
And you're never ever questioning that truth?
You really do not realize that the sources you're quoting are, let's put it mildly, rather controversial?

ElChevelle 5th November 2006 12:24

There's no need to bash the GOP or try to make them look like corrupt and inept figures.

They're doing that fine all by themselves.

zootm 5th November 2006 20:14

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
And no, our country is not a democracy as a lot of Democrats and Republicans would lead you to believe; it is a Constitutional Republic. Say the Pledge of Allegiance out loud. Let me know when you get to the “…and to the Republic…” part.
I hate this argument. Having a constitution and being a republic does not stop a country being democratic. Your government is democratically elected. That's it.

watadoo 7th November 2006 13:49

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Originally posted by ElChevelle
So do I, as a true American, need to heed W's words and vote non-Democrat in order to not help the terrorists?
If you want to stay out of the brand new domestic detention centers (no habeas corpus anymore either).

rockouthippie 12th November 2006 00:58

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Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
And please give me a list of presidents who did NOT serve durring a time of war.

There are not too many.

Clinton.

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I hate this argument. Having a constitution and being a republic does not stop a country being democratic. Your government is democratically elected. That's it.
A republic is a good thing.

We have rights that supercede a democracy, and we have not given the power of majority rule over all decisions. People have individual rights which cannot be taken away by the democratic process, at least in theory.

That's why it's important. In a strictly democratic society, we could vote to kill all the black people or mexicans. A constitution doesn't let us.

This is what makes the peace. Even majority rule bends to basic principles of freedom and what wise men decided justice was. And they were right.

skryingbreath 12th November 2006 01:08

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Originally posted by rockouthippie
Clinton.
He still ordered attacks in Iraq. Not, in certain terms, a war. Still pretty war-like.

A more adequate answer would have been Chester A. Arthur.


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