dude, the saving of the auto industries in Michigan saved hundreds of thousands of jobs n the industry directly and to tons and tons of related and adjoining business and industries, and saved the upper midwest from dropping into a severe depression. Find another windmill to tilt at. also try doing some basic research before spouting. You're getting tiresome.

Because they made and still make shitty cars. So it's a government make work program. Ford and Toyota didn't run crying to the government. They made good cars and sold them.

Too Big To Fail

It might be our epitaph.

I'll start to buy any of your bullshit when you trade in your Prius and refuse to use a computer with non American parts.

I'd hate to live in the angry pessimistic world that exists only in your head. Every word in your post is false. Every word.

Funny, I was up in Oregon for the last 4 days and everyone I met, Everyone was upbeat, friendly, reasonably smart and articulate. Guess like I missed you on that trip.

I'm pessimistic?

I think trade is good. I don't think it needs a bunch of protectionism. I think I like the idea of an Indian guy named "Bob" working for half pay in your cubicle.

I'm good.