Incredible, isn't it?

Okay, first we need a detailed plan. We have to evacuate the women and small children somehow. Hmmm, let's have a picnic in say, I don't know, Chile. Once they've phoned home to say that all is well, we do some excavating.
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After that, we wait for the dust to settle and Steve Wynn can build his newest beach resort/******.

i have sth to say about isreals planes. theyre fast. faster than ours of the same make and model. see, the isrealies strip the planes of unnecessary stuff to save weight, and then soup up the engines to as fast as they can go. it's a little bit like podracers, eh? :D

Think they've ever had one leave without it's weaponry?:)

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:rolleyes:

I've read them all, the one that is about the middle east is not one of the best, but with Tom Clancy books, you can't go wrong. It is called 'Sum of all fears'

May I suggest that you read them all in order and not in the disjointed sequence of reading Rainbow Six quite early on. Although it does not include Jack Ryan, it still follows on from the others, it is much better to read them beginning to end. The only exception is Without Remorse, as this one is about the dark, shadowy John Clark and how he became who he is in the CIA. It is a really good one and is best read about midway through the series (IMHO).

I would also suggest avoiding the film 'Clear and Present Danger' as it does not follow the book, and really screws up any follow on films that may come about. The same goes for the other two films - 'hunt for red october' and 'Patriot Games' although to a lesser extent

(You can't tell that I'm too much of a Clancy fan can you???)

The Sum of All Fears is about to go into production with Ben Affleck in the role as Jack Ryan.

Curious, seeing as they killed off one of the main characters in 'clear and present danger' film. I wonder how they are going to bring him back from the dead

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this pic was in my newsweek 2 weeks ago. see that guy? he's a suicide bomber. or whats left of him. take a close look. its a chest, arms and head there. look in the upper right hand corner. see that bit of white? in the magazine, you can see a rescue worker holding the bombers leg. this is stuff that needs to stop.

Who? Jim Greer? Bad move to kill him off. NEVER kill James Earl Jones in a movie!:(
And Willem DaFoe didn't do John Clark justice. When I read No Remorse, I had someone totally different in mind. Raymond Cruz was a good pick for "Ding" Chavez though.

Rest in Pieces!

I ethploded... :p

They killed off Murrey - Ryan's FBI friend, in the scene when they were ambushed by the cartel.

If you read the books, then Murrey provides a lot of support to Jack latter on, I cannot remember too clearly, but I think especially so in 'Sum of all Fears'

Killing off the James Earl Jones was brilliant though, he was such a good character for the DDI and had a brilliant role. It is a shame that he is killed off in the books, but if he wasn't, then Jack wouldn't be where he is, in the current books, it would have been a lot more difficult for him to have moved up the chain of command

"I am very happy and proud of what my son did and I hope all the men of Palestine and Jordan would do the same," the father told The Associated Press at his home in Zarqa, Jordan with tears in his eyes.

i feel ill

Yea, I want to raise my son through all his years, teach him to hate the Israelis, how to properly throw rocks and molotovs, and to strap a bomb on his chest and die for all the good Palestinians.
Just like all the other prospective Father of the year's out there.

i recall something sick that happend then..

they were civilians throwing rocks at the military, and snipers on a near-by hill picking them off one by one... heads being blown off all over the place..

and you tell me that's not sick!?

death is not fun. i totally don't agree with a war where only the innocent die.