Who here can give me a link....
 

Can anyone here give me a link to download a decent XML editor please???


Criteria....

Small file size, Bells and whistles not essential.
Small learning curve, I prefer to learn my apps hands on, not in .hlp files
Preferably free, although not essential ;)


I fear if I use notpad for any more XML editing, I may have a psychotic episode.

Someone out there must use one ?

Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

XML spy's supposed to be good: download

It seems rather complicated though, but maybe that's because I'm a complete xml dummy :)

go to [edit] removed[/edit] you might find some interesting stuff there.

Isn't that considered an "illegal link"? :D

yeah, but MR J. will remove it himself. :D

This thread in the WA3 forum covers it I think.

MJ. I use ace html. It's a free html editor that supports xml.
You have to get it to read xml. In the file extention option.

I like it because.

It's easy to use.
It highlights syntax.

Plus I use notepad.

I create my files though copy and paste in ace html.
But I edit them in notepad when i'm changing things in the skin.
Actually there is a Winamp 3 skinning editor. Its on RhinoTrips site.
It's quite nice. I just haven't gotten use to using it yet and i'm
hoping the creator will add some options to it.

Mr. J here ya go

Your search for XML Editors found 2186 results on XML.com
http://www.xml.com/search/index.ncsp?sp-q=XML+Editors

Yeah but which of the 2186 is worth looking at ?

Thanks PP, I'm going with ACE html, seems to work ok for me :)

True that...I use XML Notepad from MS

what is xml? kinda like html???

HTML with bells on, your gonna have to learn it before you can skin for WA3, the whole configuration is XML driven, here's a snippet from the skin I'm working on now...-

<!-- Player:Standard mode
-->
- <layout id="normal" x="0" y="10" background="player.main.bg">
<layer id="main" image="player.eq" />
- <!-- Playback buttons
-->
- <!-- Timer
-->
<text id="timer" display="time" x="37" y="167" w="45" h="15" font="player.BIGNUM" fontsize="15" align="left" color="255,255,255" />
- <!-- Da song ticker
-->
<text id="songticker" ticker="1" display="songname" default="" showlen="1" x="37" y="187" w="68" h="8" font="player.SmallFixed" fontsize="10" color="255,255,255" />
- <!-- Sound Analyzer
-->
<vis id="vis" x="56" y="120" w="57" h="26" />
<button id="ScrollLeft" action="CB_PREV" x="229" y="166" image="thinger.scroll.left" downImage="thinger.scroll.left.pressed" tooltip="Scroll Left" />
<button id="ScrollRight" action="CB_NEXT" x="286" y="166" image="thinger.scroll.right" downImage="thinger.scroll.right.pressed" tooltip="Scroll Right" />
- <!-- Window switching buttons
-->
- <!-- note that you can also use "guid:avs" or "guid;pl" for toggling parameters
-->
<button id="eq" action="TOGGLE" param="eq" x="279" y="105" image="player.switch.eq.disabled" downImage="player.switch.eq.pressed" activeImage="player.switch.eq.enabled" tooltip="Toggle Equalizer" />
<button id="pl" action="TOGGLE" param="guid:{45f3f7c1-a6f3-4ee6-a15e-125e92fc3f8d}" x="290" y="127" image="player.switch.playlist.disabled" downImage="player.switch.playlist.pressed" activeImage="player.switch.playlist.enabled" tooltip="Toggle Playlist" />
<button id="ml" action="TOGGLE" param="guid:{6B0EDF80-C9A5-11d3-9F26-00C04F39FFC6}" x="298" y="144" image="player.switch.ml.disabled" downImage="player.switch.ml.pressed" activeImage="player.switch.ml.enabled" tooltip="Toggle Music Library" />
<button id="mb" action="TOGGLE" param="mb" x="263" y="79" image="player.switch.mb.disabled" downImage="player.switch.mb.pressed" activeImage="player.switch.mb.enabled" tooltip="Toggle Minibrowser" />
<button id="avs" action="TOGGLE" param="guid:avs" x="303" y="167" image="player.switch.avs.disabled" downImage="player.switch.avs.pressed" activeImage="player.switch.avs.enabled" tooltip="Toggle AVS" />
<togglebutton id="Crossfade" x="258" y="108" image="player.toggler.crossfade.disabled" downImage="player.toggler.crossfade.pressed" activeImage="player.toggler.crossfade.enabled" tooltip="Crossfade" />
<togglebutton id="Shuffle" x="230" y="108" image="player.toggler.shuffle.disabled" downImage="player.toggler.shuffle.pressed" activeImage="player.toggler.shuffle.enabled" tooltip="Shuffle" />
<togglebutton id="Repeat" x="244" y="108" image="player.toggler.repeat.disabled" downImage="player.toggler.repeat.pressed" activeImage="player.toggler.repeat.enabled" tooltip="Repeat" />
<button id="winshade" tooltip="Toggle Windowshade mode" action="SWITCH" param="shade" x="159" y="119" image="player.button.winshade" downImage="player.button.winshade" />
<button id="Close" action="CLOSE" x="173" y="119" image="player.button.close" downImage="player.button.close" tooltip="Exit Winamp" />
<componentbucket id="Component list" x="242" y="166" w="43" h="33" />
<button id="Previous" action="PREV" x="257" y="246" image="player.button.previous" downImage="player.button.previous.pressed" tooltip="Previous" />
<button id="Play" action="PLAY" x="57" y="246" image="player.button.play" downImage="player.button.play.pressed" tooltip="Play" />
<button id="Pause" action="PAUSE" x="45" y="215" image="player.button.pause" downImage="player.button.pause.pressed" tooltip="Pause" />
<button id="Stop" action="STOP" x="80" y="275" image="player.button.stop" downImage="player.button.stop.pressed" tooltip="Stop" />
<button id="Next" action="NEXT" x="269" y="215" image="player.button.next" downImage="player.button.next.pressed" tooltip="Next" />
<button id="Eject" action="EJECT" x="234" y="275" image="player.button.eject" downImage="player.button.eject.pressed" tooltip="Eject" />
<button id="Minimize" action="MINIMIZE" x="160" y="382" image="player.button.minimize" downImage="player.button.minimize.pressed" tooltip="Minimize Winamp" />
- <!-- Sliders
-->
<slider id="Seeker" action="SEEK" x="34" y="125" w="231" h="10" thumb="player.button.seek" />
<slider id="SeekerGhost" action="SEEK" x="34" y="125" w="231" h="10" ghost="1" thumb="player.button.seek" />
<slider id="Volume" action="VOLUME" x="92" y="305" w="148" h="26" thumb="player.button.volume" />
<layer id="ring" x="92" y="305" image="player.cover" ghost="1" />
</layout>

will someone please make a skinner.exe ... which i can use as base ... LMAO


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but on other hand.. doesnt seem too hard though...seems pretty logical even
[/edit]

LOL, coward, it's not that difficult, I've only been doing it for 2 days, and I got myself a sweet fully working , fully shaped neato player allready, simple stuff.

And it's even easier to follow now I have a decent XML editor, instead of going blind using notepad all the time.

the editor uses color right?

well.. i dont have an idea on wa3 yet.. otherwise i would give it a try...

Yup, just makes reading and editing it a whole lot easier, breaks down the element tags, and attribute fields and so on into more manageable parts.

As for WA3, im just playing around, getting a feel for it, how it works, how to place stuff, crap like that, I read a really good article in the news section at winamp about someones first adventures in skinning for WA3, really good it was ;)

i did some freeform skinning before.. but i forgot how that app was called.. came in some mail who used 1001 mail database or something.. i thought to give it a shot.. was a tad simpler then this.. but still hehehehe

btw... in wa3, can you make it transparent so the background shines through? so you could make a glass amp and you see all the wires which makes wa3 work and you can see through it on other places but still see the glass???

or make a liquidish one so you can see through the liquid?

Yup, just doing something similar now as it happens.

Regarding Winamp3 skins:
Isn't it incredible that, with the right info, the skinning possibilities are only limited by one's creativity and imagination. I need to teach myself this new wonder since I have so many images locked up in the vast, echoing canyon that is Chev's cranium:p
For instance, I saw a watch the other day that who's face is transparent so that all the internal mechanisms are visible. Many, many intricate, tiny gears to behold. Now THAT would make a sweet amp.

ding ding, there's an idea, I'll add it to the "jones list of things to do, number 189" :D,hmmmm moving gears.....


And hey Chev, if I can pick up WA3 and bang out a skin in a couple of days, anyone can :), you see my article on the front page? "winamp3: a journey into the unknown"?

i saw your article

oh dear god in heaven
methinks i won't be doing any more skinnning once winamp3 comes out
that's SCARY
and complex and weird and i dont' even know html yet

EXACTLY! You're bang on with the article. It scared the great satan straight out of my rectum when I first delved into what constituted a WA3 skin.
I just may give it a shot. After all, I gave up skinning WA2 when WA3 was realized in fear that they would be rendered obsolete.
Here's another, anyone considered a profile styled amp of, say, the front view of Star Trek's Enterprise?:p