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eu4ia 13th September 2001 07:36

False accusations of ripping
 
What, if anything, can you do if someone accuses you of stealing their work when you have done nothing of the kind?

I'm getting burned by a girl for supposedly stealing a skin she made. The main windows are similar, I admit . . . because they were both made from an image that I'm quite sure was put out by Square, and not by either of us. Her skin was never posted on Winamp, or really anywhere . . . she put up a .bmp of how it looked on her site, nothing else, as her host did not permit file downloads beyond graphics. I'd never been to her site before submitting my skin, though I had visited it before she wrote the nasty review I found today. Worst of all, I LIKED her site. I visited a couple of times, enjoyed it, and now she hates me for something I did not do.

Can I protect myself here if she puts in a formal accusation? And what would you suggest I say to her, if anything? (I've e-mailed her once, but I doubt she'll believe a word I say.)

BullGawD 13th September 2001 14:52

copy this to the Skin Love forum, and give us the name/CID of the girl and her skin who's flaming you. :) We take care of most all rip reports.

(CID = the 5 or 6 little numbers at the end of a skin's URL.)

flatmatt 13th September 2001 15:45

There's nothing that says we have to remove a reported rip. If your skin isn't the same as theirs, it won't be removed.

eu4ia 13th September 2001 15:49

The girl's ID here is Mikara Hunter. I can't give you a name for her skin, as it's not posted here. Thanks. At the moment her site is down for maintenance and she hasn't (at least I don't think) posted any formal complaint against me. As soon as it's back up, I fear she might. Unless she does, there's nothing needs doing.

The Only Lynx 13th September 2001 17:20

give us a link to your skin..

eu4ia 13th September 2001 17:31

Oops. That was dumb.
My skin is here:
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=59036

(It's such a simple one that it's almost embarrassing to complain, but . . .)

NeoRenegade 13th September 2001 21:15

is her skin a skinner.exe skin as well? if so, i don't think she has any right to complain... it's peanuts :p

BullGawD 13th September 2001 21:17

:eek: he said peanuts :eek:

Riksruin 13th September 2001 22:53

by the looks of it the main image that has been used isnt either of ur image so u cant exactly press charges for someone using the same image as urself,

Namelessv1 13th September 2001 22:58

Unless its a 3+ star skin, i dont see any reason for her to complain about it.

Forevever 13th September 2001 23:00

eu4ia..
how long did it take you to make that skin?

eu4ia 14th September 2001 00:29

It's a pretty cheap skin, I readily admit. I was toying with a skin program, saw that no one had a skin of Faris up yet, and thought I'd send it - first one I ever sent, in fact. No, the skin itself isn't worth a huge fuss - but I figured the nuisance this girl could cause for me might be. Sorry to be wasting everyone's time. I only started the thread wondering what I ought to do if she actually put in a formal complaint.

flatmatt 14th September 2001 01:49

Quote:

Originally posted by BullGawD
:eek: he said peanuts :eek:
Hehe. :D

Mr. Bojanglez 14th September 2001 03:10

grrrr
 
oooo big deal, i didn't think it was possible to rip a skinner.exe skin....

Riksruin 14th September 2001 10:56

Re: grrrr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bojanglez
oooo big deal, i didn't think it was possible to rip a skinner.exe skin....
it isnt they just both used the same image, well by looking at what the girl has said she made hers herself

THEMike 14th September 2001 11:13

Quote:


Not only do I have to gripe about the fact that this skin is a ripoff, but it was created with EasySkin. I created my skin by hand

My guess. She made a (crap?) skin by hand with the same image you ran thro a skin app.

Her skin isn't available.

Dunno what the best action is here... perhaps one of the Skin Squad (of Death) should contact her to get hold of a copy then Cast Judgment (of Doom) on the guilty party.

Or everyone should delete all their skins and all .bmp, .jpg and .gif files in the world. Then we call all be happy and go on holiday to crete. Tho not while I'm there cos I don't like people crouding my beach.

Ah sod it, it's friday, I'm going for a beer now.

BullGawD 25th September 2001 18:03

You, are a silly stupid sunuvabich.

The Review Squad has a set of guidelines to follow as does any panel. If you don't agree with their decisions, you have an appeal process at your use, and if you still aren't happy, you have admin email adresses to contact. Now, I join MJ in asking you to please stop flooding the SL forum with irate, useless posts.

FYC
Appeal Thread

Your Thread (In which your skin is originally identified as a rip)

The Rip Report Thread (Located in the Rip Report Forum)

And you can find for yourself admin emails.

e-blackadder 25th September 2001 18:12

Re: Big Brother
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IlluSionS667
BRING DOWN THE REVIEWING SQUAD! DOWN WITH THE EVIL RULERSHIP! POWER TO THE PEOPLE! HAIL ANARCHY!!!!!
Which reviewing squad would this be, hmmm? The one that was instituted to combat the "evil" of people bombing skins and uprating their own? (*cough* not naming names *cough*) You seem to forget that you are about 50% responsible for the new system yourself, because of your childish antics taking advantage of the old one.

Thanks for the laugh... I love a good irony. :D

BullGawD 25th September 2001 18:29

Re: the above rant.
 
ahem.

Quote:

Originally posted by IlluSionS667
POWER TO THE PEOPLE! HAIL ANARCHY!!!!!

chiquita chad 25th September 2001 19:04

do u really want anarchy to prevail? i sure do! that way i'd be able to beat the shit out of ppl like u and not even suffer the consequences.

note: this is just a joke proving that we need a government... dont bitch me out about it :p

Mr. Bojanglez 25th September 2001 20:19

arg
 
i anarcists want anarchy so bad why don't they just find an unihbited island

cyana 25th September 2001 21:52

Quote:

The ideologis principle of anarchy is having only a police and a juctice system, and a series of laws, established by the people. When the people decide, some laws are obselete, they should be able to vote if the want this law abolished of remain.
so when the majority considers your skin as a rip, it will be a rip then ? cyanajustaskingwithbiginnocenteyes

Assja 25th September 2001 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by IlluSionS667
The only good rating system was the old, static rating system.
That was honest.

..Umm, as I remember, it was not. As I remember, it was no comments from the reviewer on any skin, and almost all skins came out with 3 stars. And all ppl were yelling "Give us a new review system, this isn't working!".

e-blackadder 25th September 2001 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by IlluSionS667
In the info, I told what I used to make my skin with, but nobody did the effort to read it. You thought, what the hell, it's John S, let's delete this muttafucka's skin. If oyu would have read the info, or at least waiting until I could defend myself, none of this would be necessary.
If there is one thing in the world that I despise, it's some twit telling me what I think. I gather telepathy is among the super powers you are using to defeat evil and keep the universe safe for mediocre, imaginationless skins?

Another thing... I don't know where you were September 11th, but now is not the time to start spouting "down with the evil empire, anarchy now" political bullshit. I guarantee you nobody in here wants to hear it.

One last thing, and this is funny so let's see what you think. You are wound up that your skin was deleted as a rip before you could "defend yourself." <-----your words.

Well guess what bud? Just before the database went down, one of the reviewers (not me but I'm not telling who) deleted a rip of one of your skins. No sh*t, I am not making this up. Now... would you rather that that skin had been posted until the ripper could be given a chance to defend himself? Or are you happy that it got dropped right away? Cause dude, you can't have it both ways. If that skin had gotten posted you would have gone spastic, and you would be critisizing us for NOT doing to it what you are mad that we DID do to yours.

The system is here to stay, good or bad, so quitcher-bitchin and live with it like the rest of us do. Yeah, it sucks that your skin got confused as a rip, but posting millions of "death to the aristos" threads is not the way to get it back up. For once, just follow the rules and play fair. Your patience will be rewarded.

If that isn't good enough for you, then in the words of the immortal Denis Leary. "Life sucks, get a helmet."

Wildrose-Wally 25th September 2001 23:24

Quote:

Originally posted by IlluSionS667
If people would have never started bombing me, I would have never uprated me. I know you don't believe me, I didn't start with it
You are a liar, and you know it. Remember our email exchange over the weekend in which I pointed out your uprating started before the bombing. The bombing most likely was the result of your uprating, which ppl saw for what it really was. :rolleyes:


Namelessv1 26th September 2001 00:05

Blah! Blah! Blah! This whole "People are brining me down for no reason" paranoia was really got to end. Its in like 3 or 4 threads already.

Btw, i dont get why u say u want to keep your skins at the right rating when all your doing is keeping your rating at 4.5. Your not "protecting" yourself, you just want as many dl's as you can get.


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