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will 27th October 2001 22:01

Help needed...
 
Ok, so i have a dilemma.
My school decides to put a basic (celeron) pc (slow!) in everyones room running win2k on the school LAN, everything on these PC's is limited, they have removed menu options with a blindfold on, we have a limited amout of highly monitored file space, and a highly monitored outlook email service and few applications of any use.
I already have a pc, an athlon 1.33Ghz, 256DDR, win2k etc (quick!)... with an ethernet card. I boot the my school owned box and i get an error when i log on, which is irresovable, meaning that the box is useless without some maintinance by admin. As a temporary measure use my athlon system to gain access to the schools web connection, outlook email, and network drives. I don't get round to getting the schools box fixed (mainly because admin hate me already and work pressures and stuff) and the above setup becomes permanant.

The school announces that they are banning of outlook email between the hours of 7pm-9pm and 11pm-7am. So i start to experiment with messanger (winpopup) services for communications during these times (something i could, incedently do on a school box or my personal box just as well). Accidently a message goes to all logged on users through my own inexperience with such services. My housemaster correctly guesses that this message came from my athlon box (built by my own hands, incedentally).

I want to use my athlon box for my mp3 collection, photoshop, visual studio, and downloading of large files. I don't want the confiscation of my athlon box.

what should my next move be?

1) get my school box fixed, get a keyboard/mouse/vga(/ethernet?) switcher and use my own box only when nessicary
2) fob people off with excuses and carry on as i was (which i would like to do) and risk further reprisails (which i would not like to do)
3) something else? (please suggest).

thanks in advance.

mr_sax 28th October 2001 00:54

this is stupid. u never explained how u got internet

griffinn 28th October 2001 01:03

Tuck your Athlon box away in a safe hideout until the heat is over. As long as they don't have access to your Athlon box (to find out its NETBIOS name etc.) they can't prove you sent the broadcast message from it.

To be safe, change the computer name of your Athlon box, and then remove the network card from your Athlon box and store it somewhere else. Just in case they bust into your room, take the Athlon, and try to extract its network MAC address etc.

Of course, in the mean time you'll have to get them to fix your school-sponsored box.

To prevent yourself from sending any broadcast message in future, remember to always specify "DOMAIN\user" as the recipient instead of just "user". That way you'll never mistakenly put in a domain instead of a user as recipient and generate a broadcast.

DuaneJeffers 28th October 2001 05:53

Take an old hackers adage to it ... Tuck the celeron away in your closet (with it still connected to the school's network/internet), and put your athlon box out in the open but changing it's name. Then create a small room "LAN" (The idea is that the celeron box is the gateway and the Athlon box as YOUR computer uses the celeron box to access the internet). Plus, if you bought the parts and built it yourself, it is concidered yours. I bring my laptop every other day to school and connect it to the LAN. They have the same type of policy as your schools, but I bought it, so I may use it to my will. They do not own it. The idea behind the Celeron/Gateway to the Internet and Athlon/Personal-Work Computer is that it is still connected to the Internet and the small room "LAN" would make the 2 look like 1 to the admins. Plus the Celeron box could be set to stop all "illegal" messages to the server/workstations and as a type file server to hold some files that can be accessed later OR as a preloader for huge downloaded files (What an gateway essentially does). This is an Hacker's perspective and non others.

mr_sax: Stop yer bitching. I automatically assumed it was on a school network!!!

-Duane

will 28th October 2001 08:15

mr. sax: duane was right, but i should of said that.

griff: I put the netbois name the same as the school sponsored box, so the message could have come from either, but it did come from my athlon, which they guessed (they have no proof, apart from the fact that the school's box is not working).

duane: i like your idea the best, but how do i do it, considering that the ability to change settings or even get at the control panel on all school machines is heavily restricted.

thanks so far!

DuaneJeffers 28th October 2001 17:24

That is how you get screwed the most. If you don't want to get caught, then you don't call the admins. My first inclination is to start some social engineering, but it all depends on the tech guys. I will have to see what you could do. I don't know Win2k very well, but it you can find out the admin password and name, then you are cool. Something you could do is get a keylogging program, hide the Athlon box and tell the admin that you have had problems with the computer. have the keylogging program running when he/she logs in and then you have his password. But actually, I have no idea.

-Duane


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