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John M 26th December 2001 03:12

happy kwanzaa!!!
 
http://www.melanet.com/kwanzaa/about_toc.html

happy kwanzaa dudes. my inner black man is gonna go celebrate now :D

Xerxes 26th December 2001 09:32

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PARTS FROM JOHN'S LINKED ARTICLE: Derived from the Swahili phrase "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits", Kwanzaa is rooted in the first harvest celebrations practiced in various cultures in Africa.
Baloney with a capital B. Obviously the esteemed Dr. Karenga didn't do any reserach and made it up as he went. There is no culture on earth that celebrates a "first harvest" ritual in late december. It has no ties to African traditions or any other traditions for that matter. :rolleyes:

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the third and fourth "Primary Symbols - "Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility); Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics)
Those both sound like metaphors for communism. No surprise here. :rolleyes:

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5th Primary Symbol: MUHINDI (Moo-heen-dee)The ear of corn represents the offspring or product (the children) of the stalk (the father of the house).
Ah yes, this sounds like your traditional harvesting/sexual metaphor. The only problem I see with it being traditionally African is the small fact that Corn was introduced to Africa by *europeans* ... double :rolleyes:

There are so many parts of Kwanzaa that are completely artificial and have nothing to do with Africa. I refuse to respect it as a holiday- its nothing more than another retarded thing that came out of the 60's.

Bilbo Baggins 26th December 2001 10:59

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Originally uttered by the Dark Lord Xerxes
Those both sound like metaphors for communism. No surprise here.
If in doubt, blame it on the left :rolleyes:

Xerxes 26th December 2001 11:24

Hey, in the sixties, thousands of african people in Tanzania had their land confiscated and were forced on collective farms by Julius Nyere

http://www.aaionline.org/art/timeline/60s_nyrere.jpg

The name of the policy: Ujima

If its wrong, blame it on the left. :hang:

Bilbo Baggins 26th December 2001 11:38

So far, no "Communist" or "left wing" dicatator has ever actually been true to the word of Marx, so there is no point in calling them Communist.

Xerxes 26th December 2001 11:57

I won't even try to argue that one. :down:

Bilbo Baggins 26th December 2001 11:59

Does that mean i have won this argument?

I doubt that :p

I have a huge 26th December 2001 12:00

Happy Kwanzaa to all my brothers and sisters, especially those oppressed by the man!
After all, I am 1/4 black myself:cool:

Xerxes 26th December 2001 12:01

It means I am too tired to continue to disect your previous statement and remain coherant... :o

I have a huge 26th December 2001 12:05

THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout!
White man argues over our existence while we struggle to make a life in the white man world:blah:

Bilbo Baggins 26th December 2001 12:05

Fair enough. I will wait, hammer and sickle at the ready.

I have a huge 26th December 2001 12:07

Always tryin' to keep a bruthah down! :weird:

Xerxes 26th December 2001 12:12

*sigh* Its "Bruthaz" who keep themselves down- Kwanzaa is a perfect example of this tomfoolery.

I can't take it anymore, i'm going to bed :cry:

I have a huge 26th December 2001 12:14

Point taken AND given:p


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