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Bilbo Baggins 20th January 2002 23:08

Afghan Refugees go on hunger strike
 
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...5E1702,00.html

Ok, while i am pretty symapathetic towards refugess, i just cannot hold with any who come to a country for refuge, for food and shelter, and then have the nerve to complain by going on hunger strike because they are not getting 5 star accomodation.

But what REALLY annoys me is that they sew babys lips togeher in order to demonstrate this.

They should, no they DESERVE to go back to the shithole they came from if they are going to do that. no country should have to put up with inhuman bastards that do this to defencelss children.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

SNYder 21st January 2002 00:21

Re: Afghan Refugees go on hunger strike
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
But what REALLY annoys me is that they sew babys lips togeher in order to demonstrate this.
OMFG! :eek:

Xerxes 21st January 2002 01:01

With my republican connections i'll get the word to the president that we need to commence with the Caviar and Melba Toast airdrops ASAP! :rolleyes:

s1138 21st January 2002 01:03

(didnt read article)

wtf?!?! they are refugees, and they are going on a hunger strike.
they should be happy we are giving them MRE's. (which, IMO are excellent)

Merlin 21st January 2002 01:03

Send the bastards a plane load of pretzels!

rm' 21st January 2002 01:08

Quote:

Originally posted by s1138
(didnt read article)

wtf?!?! they are refugees, and they are going on a hunger strike.
they should be happy we are giving them MRE's. (which, IMO are excellent)

They are claiming that it's about human rights, which I think is absurd, considering where they came from, and where they are now. If they think Australia is treating them so badly, maybe they'd rather go back?

Rovastar 21st January 2002 01:08

Pretty distrubing article.

What is the world coming too?

Huehuetenango 21st January 2002 01:11

uhm
holy shit
nothing is important enough that a child should have it's mouth sewn shut,
but we aren't told anything about conditions inside the camp
we dont' know what is going on, or why specifically this hunger strike is occuring, all we know is "humanitarian reasons" which could mean ANYTHING

Jon Deaux 21st January 2002 01:24

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here's sump'n fer em to munch on!
uh, it's probably in REALLY bad taste.

Rovastar 21st January 2002 01:26

Jon Deaux,

I don'y know if I am offended by this or if I find it funny?:o :confused: :eek:

Jon Deaux 21st January 2002 01:31

If I were a muslim I might be offended by all that ham!

asshole 21st January 2002 02:24

They can go on the hunger strike if they want, but the decision to sew their lips together are their decisions to make. As for the ones that sew someone else's lips together, I hope they get convicted of murder if the other person happen to die from starvation.

s1138 21st January 2002 02:56

oh....

MRE's are packs of food that the military use while in the field. it comes in a dark brown plastic bag, and has a variety of things.

those yellow packages they drop for the refugees are the exact same thing. a person can live off of one pack a day.

The Valkyrie 21st January 2002 04:04

Aussies had a history of mistreating foreigners, especially Asians and Arabs. They even pick on Russians like my good internet friend who went there and came back telling me that "Australia is the most hostile-to-foreigners country in the world." Howard got re-elected because of this racist attitude AS WELL AS the legitimate reasons of hidden threats of terrorism and cost of resources. Since September 11th, the Aussie's attitude to Arabs had become more hostile than ever before. I even heard a rumor that some Aussies blew up a mosque once.

My friend also told me; "The differences between Aussies and Neo-Nazis are that they still got hair on their heads, they don't march around disturbing the peace, and they don't see cops coming around to check tnem up."

Ofcourse, I would disagree with his all-inclusive attitude of "all Aussies are like this and this and this".

BTW, how do you like my new avatar???

Rocker 21st January 2002 04:19

Quote:

Originally posted by The Valkyrie
Aussies had a history of mistreating foreigners, especially Asians and Arabs. They even pick on Russians like my good internet friend who went there and came back telling me that "Australia is the most hostile-to-foreigners country in the world." Howard got re-elected because of this racist attitude AS WELL AS the legitimate reasons of hidden threats of terrorism and cost of resources. Since September 11th, the Aussie's attitude to Arabs had become more hostile than ever before. I even heard a rumor that some Aussies blew up a mosque once.

My friend also told me; "The differences between Aussies and Neo-Nazis are that they still got hair on their heads, they don't march around disturbing the peace, and they don't see cops coming around to check tnem up."

Ofcourse, I would disagree with his all-inclusive attitude of "all Aussies are like this and this and this".

BTW, how do you like my new avatar???


we only accept 100000 people a year

ffs

don't give shit to what you don't know about

im not racist....im multicultural myself

would you wan't people who sew their own childrens lips together???
what about throwing their own kids overboard????

if they were skilled and wern't crazy, australia would accept them without any problems

why won't the US accept mexicans free loading into the country??

iomegajaz 21st January 2002 04:47

The Valkyrie: Your POV of Australians makes me feel physically sick. All I can say is that your friend must have encountered the worst examples of Aussies anyone has had the misfortune to come across. Sure we have our bad apples, but you try telling me that your country is free of racists and arseholes.

"Howard got re-elected because of this racist attitude AS WELL AS the legitimate reasons of hidden threats of terrorism and cost of resources. Since September 11th, the Aussie's attitude to Arabs had become more hostile than ever before. I even heard a rumor that some Aussies blew up a mosque once."

I can't believe you would speak in such a way about something you clearly don't understand.

You are one person I didn't think I would be disappointed by. I'm deeply depressed by the fact that I was wrong.

-jaz
ps. John Howard (PM) is an idiot. So are those bastards who burned (not bombed) the mosque 30mins from here.

The Valkyrie 21st January 2002 04:52

See? Not all Aussies are racists, there are many who willingly accept foreigners. My friend can be an asshole at times - he seems to think he's god.

I don't know, but it's what I heard and saw. I watch the news everyday on CNN, BBC World and CNBC as well as checking the headlines on Reuters, ABC.com and go to the forums (like this one) to know some more. I'm a very news-obsessed person. I was there watching live on CNN when the NYSE opened for the first tiome since September 11th.

America is OVERLOADED with unskilled people, living in shambles and wrecks not much better than in Afghanistan (okay, not that bad). The American society is hundreds of times more competitive than Australia's, like if your productivity at work dip down JUST a little, you're a goner. The American society demands "maximum productivity at work and minimal hassle at rest".

Unbelievable? It's like that ALL OVER THE WORLD - you just have to live with it. Every countries have the rich, prosperous upper class and at the bottom of the heirachy, the lowest class living in shambles.

The Valkyrie 21st January 2002 08:51

Quote:

Originally posted by iomegajaz
I can't believe you would speak in such a way about something you clearly don't understand.

You are one person I didn't think I would be disappointed by. I'm deeply depressed by the fact that I was wrong.

-jaz
ps. John Howard (PM) is an idiot. So are those bastards who burned (not bombed) the mosque 30mins from here.
Those are the things I merely heard, with the reason John Howard getting re-elected being something my friend told me, and since I've never been to Australia, I listened to him, but never failed to question him.

With all the parroting stuff I heard and saw above, it's time to add my OWN opinion:

I think those Afghan refugees are lucky to have dry land to walk on, and a roof to shelter in the rain. Terrorists or not, they're there, and someone's gotta act somehow. Had the Australian government sent those refugees back to where they came from straight away, that ragtag of a boat they came with would have surely sunk, killing them all.

Still, I think just sticking them in an off-shore detention centre is, to me, inappropriate. They came from war and poverty seeking peace and prosperity - and all they get is a little room to walk in - and a piece of ham (something I heard).

Muslims are well-known for their tolerance and endurance, so when they do these things, they are clearly VERY pissed off. Those human rights people obviously have a clear reason to criticise the Australian Government.

Bilbo Baggins 21st January 2002 09:09

Maybe they do have the right to critiscise the government, but going to the extreme of sewing their childresn lips together sickens me.
We should sew their lips up and thrown em out to sea.

Predatorsfan2000 21st January 2002 09:13

So they make up for poor conditions by slowly killing their children? What a great protest. That will surely help their cause...:rolleyes:


Quote:

Muslims are well-known for their tolerance and endurance, so when they do these things, they are clearly VERY pissed off. Those human rights people obviously have a clear reason to criticise the Australian Government.
They can't be irrational stupid f***s because they're Muslim? What kind of stereotype is that? Sewing up the lips of a child erases any hope of me caring how they are being treated.

ElChevelle 21st January 2002 13:48

SPAM THE BASTARDS!

Merlin 21st January 2002 13:58

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
SPAM THE BASTARDS!
A few hundred credit card offers ("Only 50% APR!!!") and all the other junk mail I get every day should have them running for the hills.

The Valkyrie 22nd January 2002 08:09

Predatorsfan2000,

A stereotype is not a stereotype if it's true. Muslims are genrally more tolerant and patient to bullshits than Westerners, we're not in the middle of World War 3 because the Mulslim World is so patient - they just take every bullshits America, Europe and Israel throw at them and soak them up like sponge. The Al Qaeda has clearly losted their temper with Israel long ago, but still know restraint to America, for if they are also pissed off with America, September 11th would be like Tuesday (wait a minute, it WAS Tuesday! Oh well, just a "one fine day in the middle of a working week").

Imagine yourselves being on that boat, can you endure that? These people go through that and still have enough time to complain to the Australian Government, and still have enough energy to do some sewing.

Irrational? I think these people are just desperate. Perhaps the Australian Government gave them some extreme shit, so they decided that "extreme situations demand extreme measures." And now, yup, it (kinda) worked: it catches world attention. Someone's gonna act sooner or later.

Rovastar 22nd January 2002 13:05

Valkyrie,

I have not read enough of your previous posts to know if you have a dark sense of humour or if you really trying to offend.

I am taking your comments as the later.

It appears to me that you are more than understand and sympathise with the plight of Muslims and are justifying the mass murder of September the 11th.

There is a world of difference between the two!

It appears that you have the option that in all case throughout the world Muslims are the oppressed and the west is always against them.
Maybe I should thank the Muslim world for there restraint in not making September 11th a weekly event!! WTF are you talking about?!

Maybe you should think back to the former Yugoslavia where the 'West' intervened to stop the 'ethnic cleansing' of the Muslims (among others) by Christians.

My understanding of the Australian refugee situation is that they the government feel that they are not refugees at this stage has there has been a change in government in Afghanistan. Therefore the people are not at risk and can return and therefore not refugees. They feel that they have no homes and no life over there and are not convinced that the situation is better over there than it was. Sadly for them the UN say that economic migrants are not classed as refugees status as they are not at risk.

While I understand and sympathise with their plight but I still cannot justify sewing their children’s mouths shut. You would be locked up for a long time if this happened in ‘the West’ or generally anywhere else in the democratic world. When you start forcing your extreme views on children, it becomes unacceptable.

Rovastar

spanky 22nd January 2002 14:01

Quote:

Originally posted by The Valkyrie
America is OVERLOADED with unskilled people, living in shambles and wrecks not much better than in Afghanistan (okay, not that bad). The American society is hundreds of times more competitive than Australia's, like if your productivity at work dip down JUST a little, you're a goner. The American society demands "maximum productivity at work and minimal hassle at rest".
Where in hell do you get your information from? Sure, we have some unskilled and (poor) people.. but to go as far as saying that it is "overloaded" is absurd.

Oh my.. I am shaking my head. I can't believe how narrow-minded you are. I am disappointed in you.

rm' 22nd January 2002 14:02

Quote:

Originally posted by The Valkyrie
A stereotype is not a stereotype if it's true. Muslims are genrally more tolerant and patient to bullshits than Westerners, we're not in the middle of World War 3 because the Mulslim World is so patient - they just take every bullshits America, Europe and Israel throw at them and soak them up like sponge. The Al Qaeda has clearly losted their temper with Israel long ago, but still know restraint to America, for if they are also pissed off with America, September 11th would be like Tuesday (wait a minute, it WAS Tuesday! Oh well, just a "one fine day in the middle of a working week").
This trend of tolerance in the Muslim world ended with the coming to power of the Ottoman Empire. Since then, every Muslim nation (except modern day Turkey, which is strictly secular) has been an authoritarian, sectarian state with little patience for those of other religions. Even the ones which parade around as democracies such as Tunisia and Indonesia are crumbling at the seams because of the hatred of the Muslim majority for the largely Christian minority (I only have to point to the troubles in Aceh and East Timor to back up my point).

iomegajaz 22nd January 2002 21:23

The Australian government is not keeping these refugees in detention centres becuase it's fun to do so.

SHITLOADS of immigrants come to Australia each year. They ALL have to wait in line for a VISA. How unfair would it be if we were to process these newly-arrived immigrants before those who have been waiting much, much longer than they?

You tell the THOUSANDS of people in Africa who've applied through the correct channel for an Australian VISA that they will have to wait another 12 months for their application to be reviewed, because a couple of hundred poeple effectively jumped the queue.

The boat people will be granted VISAs (A) if their individual case warrants it, an (B) in turn.

OK?
-jaz


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