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Wish 5th February 2002 16:31

Creative Labs Admits Problem with Audigy
 
http://www.extremetech.com/article/0...3D22339,00.asp

Quote:

Creative Audigy's "Squeal of Death" Locks Up PCs
Creative Technology Ltd.'s latest Audigy sound cards seem to be plagued by an elusive "squeal of death" that is causing random lockups in PCs using the card and the latest Windows operating systems.
The error was reproduced Friday at the company's Singapore headquarters, as well as at Creative's testing and support facility in the U.S. So far, Creative has neither identified a cause for the glitch nor a single unified solution to work around the problem.

The problem has been characterized as "severe," according to representatives at Creative.

The bug seems to lurk only in the interaction between the Audigy and either the Windows 2000 or Windows XP operating systems. After several minutes of normal operation, the screen will freeze with either several shrill beeps or a prolonged screech, forcing the PC to be rebooted.

No single operation seems to cause the problem; MP3 playback will cause the error on one machine, while others have found that a certain game, not MP3s, cause the glitch. The problem has even occurred on demo software Creative has shipped with the card, according to a poster on Dell's support site. The bug has not affected PCs running Windows ME.

"We have not been able to really isolate what is really causing the problem," said Mala Sharma, a representative of Creative's brand management team in Milpitas, Calif.

However, Sharma said that it appears to be a bus resource issue, such as when too many applications attempt to access the card.

Sharma said that, so far, "less than 50" calls have been received by the Oklahoma technical support facility, and possibly up to another 50 by support staff in the United Kingdom and Europe. Still, the bug has prompted hundreds of postings on Creative's support site in the U.K. alone. An online petition asking for better support from Creative has also been created.

On Monday, Creative added the bug to its "Knowledge Base," and advised users to update their drivers and check the card's available resources.

Dell Computer Corp., Round Rock, Tex., has also received complaints from users who have added an after-market Audigy card to the Dimension 4100, 4300, and 8300 lines, among others. Dell currently only sells Creative's SoundBlaster Live! line of sound cards, which has not been affected by the "squeal of death". A Dell representative in Round Rock, Tex., said he had no knowledge of the issue.

"I think the problem would be (in) the drivers," wrote 'hkwk', a poster on the Creative U.K. site, who said he had installed Windows 2000, XP and ME on his computer and found only the ME OS was free of the bug. "I tried to install the beta version on the link above, reinstalling the driver, update the BIOS, reinstalling the windows, almost everything. But the problem still exists. What I want to know is how to fix this, and how come creative lab (sic) wouldn't notice this problem?"

Other posters have noted that the bug doesn't seem tied to a particular microprocessor or chipset.

Creative hasn't acknowledged the bug as a driver problem, but has come up with a laundry list of potential solutions, including: changing the card's PCI slot; turning off the PC's ACPI power management; using the DirectSound plugins for WinAmp, an MP3 player; reinstalling WinAmp; and, finally, getting the Audigy replaced. One user adjusted the settings of his parallel port and was able to eliminate the squealing sound and the lockups.

Some users have also taken the bizarre step of running two Creative sound cards, a SoundBlaster Live! and Audigy card, in the same system. Others have purchased and installed a 3COM 3C905C-TX network interface card, which has seemed to eliminate the squeal.

Sharma said that Steve Erickson, Creative's vice-president in charge of consumer audio products, had been notified of the problem. "I'm sure since the vice-president has been notified, that the engineering team will have all the resources they need to solve the problem," she said.

Of course, no solution will be timely enough for some frustrated users, who have reported problems since late November. "Oh well, the time has come to forget all Creative products for good," wrote one. "And yes I do mean it - plenty of working sound cards out there!"
:weird: :igor: :confused: :eek: :rolleyes: :down: :p :D

james 5th February 2002 16:34

Well thank FUCK for that! I don't have an Audigy and i'm glad of it! My SB PCI128 is bad enough. Maybe Creative will get their act together.

I'm glad I signed that petition, too.

peter 5th February 2002 16:44

hehe reminds me funny probs with old via mvp3 mobo and sblive (annoying pops whenever hdd writes while playing, bleh)

james 5th February 2002 16:51

yeah, and W2K ACPI IRQ sharing, meh!

fizz fizz fizz, every time the screen's updated

Caleb 5th February 2002 17:00

that sux!! :mad:

i wanted to buy audigy platinum soon.. im glad i DIDNT!
it better be a driver bug.. coz theres audigy is the best sound blaster i know of.. TerraTec sux too so theres no much of a choice.

btw, i signed that petition too..

-Kosh- 5th February 2002 17:27

Weird. I've got a SB Live 5.1 Platinum, in Win2k, and have had zero problems.. Guess I'll not be upgrading to the Audigy any time soon. :)

Vie 5th February 2002 18:08

me grin due to my ME pc, then me look at it and go sob in a corner:D
mind you I have no idea what the hell I've got for a sound or Graf-card.

sub1zero 5th February 2002 19:32

i don't really care i'll just wait longer to get it till they have all the problems fixed but creative still makes the best damn sounds card out there problems or not im still going to buy them

Bilbo Baggins 5th February 2002 20:13

You mean you guys have working computers?

rm' 5th February 2002 20:16

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Originally posted by sub1zero
i don't really care i'll just wait longer to get it till they have all the problems fixed but creative still makes the best damn sounds card out there problems or not im still going to buy them
You've got to be kidding me. Even my onboard soundcard is giving me less problems than a Creative would.

John M 5th February 2002 20:23

heard of any crap with the extigy? it looked cool and maybe worth the buck and a half they want for it.

Wish 5th February 2002 20:29

Extigy is probably related to the Audigy, since there's no way Creative would not milk it for all it is worth. Avoid it also, because if it's a hardware flaw on the Audigy, it probably will affect the Extigy also.

SNYder 5th February 2002 20:39

The Creative Audigy sound card is for gamers, simply said. It's hella powerfull and has the new EAX which roxors... for games. But sound quality wise, bug wise, just problems in general wise... it is pure poop.

Same goes for the Live! cards.

Audigy. pfffshhh.. Fuckin thing aint even a true 24bit/96khz card.

[edit]extigy is cool lookin, but you can get much better usb or pci midi/spdif/optical input boxes then that.

BeerBaron 5th February 2002 21:01

HA, thankgod for my Hercules game theator XP

Predatorsfan2000 5th February 2002 21:38

Hmm, I have an Audigy and haven't had one problem at all. I'm a gamer of course. :D I just got an OEM version without all the extra crap(and price) and installed the drivers only without the evil nazi Creative software. Works great. I usually have Winamp open all the time too(with waveout instead of directsound on WinXP). Sorry to disappoint everone. :p I wish they'd fix their drivers for everyone having problems though. There are way too many people with problems...

Curi0us_George 5th February 2002 22:42

http://www4.tomshardware.com/video/0...115/index.html

Terratec DMX6Fire is a reasonable alternative (to the Audigy Platinum). It's not quite as fast for games, but it sounds better.

sub1zero 6th February 2002 19:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Radioactive Man


You've got to be kidding me. Even my onboard soundcard is giving me less problems than a Creative would.

yea ask me if i care i had one for 4 years now and not a problem i guess you just got a defective one at somepoint and lost faith in them


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